Pain Relief

Don Alaska said:
Yep, I would take enough to keep the pain at bay. Bad enough to be sick with a life-threatening illness, but you shouldn't make yourself miserable by trying to be brave @Marie Mallory. Enjoy life if you can.
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Thank you and Don I just don't want to risk the side effects,so I take just enough to control pain.
Mental side effects can be really bad. I freak out and tell Jake get me outta here NOW.It is scary being so far out down dirt roads.
We are fixing the van up so I can stay out long as I want.
 
Ken Anderson said:
Then, by all means, take what you need to take. Don't listen to anyone here if it doesn't meet your needs. We're just people talking. My opinions are based on my experiences, which were not as severe as yours.
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I appreciate the info you gave me on the Tylenol, so now I alternate with pain meds.Also I keep busy now which also takes mind off the pain.Plus sitting around makes it worse.
 
It always seems to surprise me how much better i feel when i remember to take some MSM ! I know it works , but I just forget to take it until I am hurting and then, I remember that I need it.
I put about a half teaspoon in my coffee (or now, iced tea) and soon I am moving better and not hobbling around from body aches. It is actually so beneficial for so many other things that I need to remember to take some every day, even if I don’t have those muscle or joint aches and pains; but I just don’t always think about adding it.
So, now I put it right out on my kitchen counter, and when I am making my iced tea, I can remember to add some in. It is kind of a sour taste and actually goes really well in iced tea.
 
By most other narcotic standards, Hydrocodone is relatively mild. It takes huge amounts to really do anything other than take and edge off of pain, so, for something very serious in nature, it should not even be a drug of choice. My neighbor who has some sort of hip problem takes 60 mg. of Oxycontin every 3-4 hours a day. Further, they are extended release pills she is ingesting, and they catch up with her occasionally. Then she is stoned out of her skull.

Now, when you live in a facility that is merely assisted living, albeit a health institution, I feel that if one requires this sort of pain relief, that person requires a different place for these problems. Oxy is a very strong drug and has its place. But we are an active facility, not a sub-acute treatment center. Money talks, people.
 
Lois E. Winters said:
By most other narcotic standards, Hydrocodone is relatively mild. It takes huge amounts to really do anything other than take and edge off of pain, so, for something very serious in nature, it should not even be a drug of choice. My neighbor who has some sort of hip problem takes 60 mg. of Oxycontin every 3-4 hours a day. Further, they are extended release pills she is ingesting, and they catch up with her occasionally. Then she is stoned out of her skull.

Now, when you live in a facility that is merely assisted living, albeit a health institution, I feel that if one requires this sort of pain relief, that person requires a different place for these problems. Oxy is a very strong drug and has its place. But we are an active facility, not a sub-acute treatment center. Money talks, people.
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Hydro worked for me while oxy did nothing, so that is some difference among people. The hydro had to be given more often though. Fentanyl and carfentanil are supposedly the top of the line.
 
Don Alaska said:
Hydro worked for me while oxy did nothing, so that is some difference among people. The hydro had to be given more often though. Fentanyl and carfentanil are supposedly the top of the line.
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This is Theresa..I am back for a few days. My brother left for work yesterday. Thank you all for being so kind to mom during this tragic struggle. Typing her thoughts below:
Other than the Demerol, which is full of side effects; believe it or not the only thing that really helps me with the pain is over the counter Tylenol 500mg. Also, Xanax helps with the anxiety.
 
Lois E. Winters said:
By most other narcotic standards, Hydrocodone is relatively mild. It takes huge amounts to really do anything other than take and edge off of pain, so, for something very serious in nature, it should not even be a drug of choice. My neighbor who has some sort of hip problem takes 60 mg. of Oxycontin every 3-4 hours a day. Further, they are extended release pills she is ingesting, and they catch up with her occasionally. Then she is stoned out of her skull.

Now, when you live in a facility that is merely assisted living, albeit a health institution, I feel that if one requires this sort of pain relief, that person requires a different place for these problems. Oxy is a very strong drug and has its place. But we are an active facility, not a sub-acute treatment center. Money talks, people.
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I loved oxy. But I have an addictive personality so I only took 1/2 a pill once when pain got insufferable. I don't understand people with an incurable disease not being allowed pain killers. If they become addicted, so what? I don't think that would me Marie Mallory's issue. IMHO.
 
Don Alaska said:
Our hospice did not worry about addiction.
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Don ours doesn't worry about addiction either. As long as it is in pill form which is hard to swallow. It doesn't work as good as the shots they give you at the E.R., That is why I do not use hospice. Jake can give me the same medicine as they can. I want to be with Jake and family. Hospice has visiting hours till 5pm. The problem is Jake can't give the shots when the pain is severe.
 
We never concerned ourselves with addiction for folks with Marie's and my daughter-in-law's issues. It was for those who just liked being stoned and demanding more and more. When placebos did not work, we knew we had an addiction problem on our hands, and it then became a different type of treatment altogether. This neighbor I am talking about is out and about, shopping, dining, etc. She even asked me to help her get more meds and I flat out refused. She, too, is a nurse, and should have known better.

I would never deny anyone in dire straits pain relief. I've even fought at times when a colleague would refuse to give a drug until the very second it was due. Even the law doesn't demand this anymore.
 
Lois E. Winters said:
We never concerned ourselves with addiction for folks with Marie's and my daughter-in-law's issues. It was for those who just liked being stoned and demanding more and more. When placebos did not work, we knew we had an addiction problem on our hands, and it then became a different type of treatment altogether. This neighbor I am talking about is out and about, shopping, dining, etc. She even asked me to help her get more meds and I flat out refused. She, too, is a nurse, and should have known better.

I would never deny anyone in dire straits pain relief. I've even fought at times when a colleague would refuse to give a drug until the very second it was due. Even the law doesn't demand this anymore.
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Lois this is Jake, writing for Marie. Today there seem from what we found so far a certain process you have to go through which so far doesn't work. Our primary dr says we have to go through our pain management for meds, who told us they do not administer shots, our cancer Dr. told us that he cannot give anything unless Marie does biopsy and bone graft. He the cancer Dr said that he couldn't do anything for her unless she did the pet scan, so she did, then after that he said he couldn't do anything for her unless she does the biopsy, which can have serious side effect like perforating an artery or injuring a nerve.

All the Hospice said they don't do shots and only come by once a week, at which ever day they decide. Nurse helpline told Marie today she has to go through her primary Dr, or cancer Dr. which send us back pain Management Dr, for pills only.
 
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