US FDA approves first mRNA flu shot from Moderna

Hoot Crawford said:
lol - I'm not claiming to be an authority, so your question is irrelevant. I think for myself, but I also rely on people who are in a position to be experts. I've used Mayo Clinic as a trusted source. I would add Cleveland Clinic and John Hopkins and NIH as trusted sources, and a few others. I have zero respect/consideration for the views of random internet posters who claim to have superior knowledge, and make off-the-wall unsubstantiated claims, and who rely on urban legends ("he died in a car accident and they called it Covoid") instead of actual data. What is shown is lots of Dunning Kruger effect.

So, I'm done with this thread. Certainly nothing to be learned here. Have the day you deserve.
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There is usually a good reason for such annoyance at unpleasant truths.
 
Hoot Crawford said:
Thanks again, but my link was to an article by Mayo Clinic, not something about Fauci. But unless you are re-performing all the lab tests in your basement, combing thru all the data at a granular level to look for causal relationships instead of just correlation, and are hands on treating patients, we are both trusting an authority, just different ones. Who are you trusting?
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Im sorry but the MAYO CLINIC cant be trusted at all!!
 
April Vee said:
Im sorry but the MAYO CLINIC cant be trusted at all!!
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It certainly isn't the authority that it once was, but it is probably a good source of info for some things. Hoot wandered into the weeds, and when he couldn't engage in discussion, he made some remark about deflection and says he ended the conversation. He said he trusted NIH, which again was once a trusted source but can no longer be trusted after Covid unless it proves itself once again to be reliable. We can still discuss this issue if anyone still is interested. I don't pretend to be an authority, but I recognized the flaws in the Covid vaccine and the issues surrounding the various vaccines. Those who were vaccinated often have "buyer's remorse" if they willing receive the shots, and anger if they were forced to undergo the experimentation against their free will. I hope I am not perceived as an expert in this field, but I do have some knowledge. That's all.
 
April Vee said:
Yea its sad alot of ppl cant handle the truth :(
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He has his version of the proof and is right to make his own decisions.
I was thinking back to times of quarantines. It made good sense at the times.
Leprosy, although it is curable today, was a good thing to keep away from.
Staying home when you have the flu; probably a good idea.
Vaccines with proven history, when needed....
 
Marie Miller said:
Stand your point!
I had to show proof of Covid vaccination for my dream job.
Lots on the news about Covid vaccinations and miscarriages.
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Yeah, I was talking vaccinations in general when I said I was not anti-vaxx. I am glad I was well-retired when the Covid thing came through as I would have had to be vaccinated to work, and I know I would have had very hard decisions to make. As I said before, the vaccine manufacturers, and probably most of the government health system, knew there was danger to pregnant women and young women in general, but they didn't care, and besides the Biden Administration couldn't determine what a woman was, so how could they protect them. I saw figures of 85% miscarriage/spontaneous abortion rate in pregnancies in the first trimester when the women were vaccinated then against Covid. Like I said, a crime against humanity as a whole.
 
Im sorry Beth if your mad at me for my replies here.. I just cant stand the fact they are lying to my 2 friends in thier family,telling them to 'stay away from me because I am dangerous I didnt get the shot!!' (Thier dad knows if they believe this they wont see me)

Its an outright lie... I just want a chance to be able to tell them they are being lied to and I havent been able to.. THIS IS KILLING ME!!!

IM SORRY TO ALL MEMBERS IF ANYONE IS MAD AT ME..
 
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April Vee said:
Im sorry Beth if your mad at me for my replies here.. I just cant stand the fact they are lying to my 2 friends in thier family,telling them to 'stay away from me because I am dangerous I didnt get the shot!!' (Thier dad knows if they believe this they wont see me)

Its an outright lie... I just want a chance to be able to tell they are being lied to and I havent been able to.. THIS IS KILLING ME!!!

IM SORRY TO ALL MEMBERS IF ANYONE IS MAD AT ME..
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April, I am trying to follow you. Who is “they”? Why have you not been able to reconnect with family and friends?
 
April Vee said:
I just want a chance to be able to tell they are being lied to and I havent been able to..
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I feel the best we can do is to focus on our own lives, and the positive people who wish to share with us.
Others are on a different path - of their own choosing. We can give them a chance, but ultimately their path
is entirely up to them, so at that point let them be and move on. Personally I always choose the Path of the Heart.

"A path without a heart is never enjoyable. You have to work hard even to take it.
On the other hand, a path with heart is easy; it does not make you work at liking it.”

- - Carlos Castaneda, The Teachings of Don Juan
 
April Vee said:
Im sorry Beth if your mad at me for my replies here.. I just cant stand the fact they are lying to my 2 friends in thier family,telling them to 'stay away from me because I am dangerous I didnt get the shot!!' (Thier dad knows if they believe this they wont see me)

Its an outright lie... I just want a chance to be able to tell they are being lied to and I havent been able to.. THIS IS KILLING ME!!!

IM SORRY TO ALL MEMBERS IF ANYONE IS MAD AT ME..
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No need for apologies; everyone is entitled to their own opinions.
 
Marie Miller said:
April, I am trying to follow you. Who is “they”? Why have you not been able to reconnect with family and friends?
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Well they have totally disowend me (The family that was like a 2nd family to me) they lied to police and had a fraudulant order of protection issued.. The judge was advised to toss the order request because it had all BS all over it that didnt really matter but sadly he didnt...

I have tried to re-connect and the guy calls police on me.. He is just incredibly mean now when he was so nice before...

Its hard to turn my back on people I love...
 
April Vee said:
Well they have totally disowend me (The family that was like a 2nd family to me) they lied to police and had a fraudulant order of protection issued.. The judge was advised to toss the order request because it had all BS all over it that didnt really matter but sadly he didnt...

I have tried to re-connect and the guy calls police on me.. He is just incredibly mean now when he was so nice before...

Its hard to turn my back on people I love...
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Suggestion: Don't waste your love on people who aren't worth it. Life is too short & love is too valuable to waste.
 
April Vee said:
Im sorry Beth if your mad at me for my replies here.. I just cant stand the fact they are lying to my 2 friends in thier family,telling them to 'stay away from me because I am dangerous I didnt get the shot!!' (Thier dad knows if they believe this they wont see me)

Its an outright lie... I just want a chance to be able to tell them they are being lied to and I havent been able to.. THIS IS KILLING ME!!!

IM SORRY TO ALL MEMBERS IF ANYONE IS MAD AT ME..
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Nobody is mad at you here, Donny. We are agreeing, for the most part from what I can see. And it is allowed to disagree here. That's all.
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