US FDA approves first mRNA flu shot from Moderna

Very nice reply Kenny thank you!!

Yes everyone should have seen how forceful they were being about this and that should have set off red flags but it didnt :(

And it made us look bad because we saw thru it...
 
I touched on it earlier and have brought it up repeatedly in various threads over the years, but I'll beat that horse again. I think that one of the most dangerous things we've done, as a people, is to allow ourselves to be persuaded that our brains don't work unless we have a pedigree. Most people today are willing to believe pretty much anything if it comes from someone who they perceive as being more knowledgeable than they are. If something doesn't make sense to me, sure, there is always the possibility that there is something that I don't understand or appreciate, so I'll listen to the arguments and do independent research if it's something likely to impact me, and I should always be willing to be persuaded by a better argument, but it is often true that when something doesn't make sense to me, that is because it doesn't make sense. The people we are supposed to accept as experts are very often motivated - by politics, funding, personal gain, or something else - to lie to us, or to keep things from us. Others who are presented to us as experts aren't any smarter than we are, and some of them are a whole lot dumber, despite their pedigrees. We have been indoctrinated to suspend the use of our own brains so that we can be more easily managed. I suspect this is why our educational system has been allowed to deteriorate so badly. People who can't read, and who are discouraged from thinking for themselves, are not in a position to question authority.
 
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April Vee said:
Kenny I am so happy to hear this!

I was afraid to mention this on this site because most I thought took the shot and if I came out against it,members would get mad at me...

My whole family was conned.. My father believes the garbage they showed on TV.. We got in a fight about it again last week...

There is a reason they wanted people to stay home.. SO THEY HAD FULL CONTROL!! -- So people wouldnt see hospitals were not full like they were showing,etc....

Where I live they did not enforce masks.. A couple stores did though.. Trader Joes was one.. I went in did my shopping and they gave me my stuff for free..They wouldnt let me cash out,they wanted me out of there... Totally insane!!

2020 really showed me how people are and its sad.... They can be controlled so easily and WITH NO PROOF!!

Oh just stick some pictures on TV and make people think its this,that,etc....

Its sad about my friends... Thier father and mother also totally beleve this and its apparent they still do..

They are trying to get rid of me.. They lied to the police about me to get an order of protection issued... This is a family whose mother told me "We adopted you into the family" and then this... They have totally disowned me,have tried to eliminate all evidence they were ever my friends...

I have just been so sad about it.. Sad my dad wont help me,etc..

Im glad I can talk to you guys about this!


I love you all :)
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YES, people who chose to get vaccinated often got angry at those who didn't. I told anyone who got angry at me "Your anger shows a lack of confidence in the vaccine. If you were confident about the vaccine, you wouldn't feel threatened by my decision not to get it. And if you thought the vaccine protected you, you wouldn't need your confidence boosted by others who made the same decision you did."

Another effect: A casual friend of mine said, "I'd never get a Covid vaccine, no one is coming near me with that crap." But after her employer required it to keep her job, she got vaccinated & said, "Anybody who doesn't get the Covid vaccine is crazy."
 
Ken Anderson said:
I touched on it earlier and have brought it up repeatedly in various threads over the years, but I'll beat that horse again. I think that one of the most dangerous things we've done, as a people, is to allow ourselves to be persuaded that our brains don't work unless we have a pedigree. Most people today are willing to believe pretty much anything if it comes from someone who they perceive as being more knowledgeable than they are. If something doesn't make sense to me, sure, there is always the possibility that there is something that I don't understand or appreciate, so I'll listen to the arguments and do independent research if it's something likely to impact me, and I should always be willing to be persuaded by a better argument, but it is often true that when something doesn't make sense to me, that is because it doesn't make sense. The people we are supposed to accept as experts are very often motivated - by politics, funding, personal gain, or something else - to lie to us, or to keep things from us. Others who are presented to us as experts aren't any smarter than we are, and some of them are a whole lot dumber, despite their pedigrees. We have been indoctrinated to suspend the use of our own brains so that we can be more easily managed.
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Well said! Many people are impressed by anyone with lots of capital letters after their name.

Dr. Scam Artist Oz has all kinds of medical degrees.
And this doctor still makes me laugh. He's so....devoted to health, he made a video about protecting us from Covid - contaminated groceries:

 
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I don't remember which one, but I got the vax and I think one booster, as did my lady friend. As I have stated before, I lost 2 cousins to Covid before there was a vax, and my lady friend lost her pain management doc, who was a Covid denier up until it killed him. I probably won't bother with any more Covid vax or booster shots.

Here's a link to an article from Mayo Clinic about Covid dated July 1, 2026. And yes, I give more credence to information from the Mayo Clinic than random internet experts.

Mayo Clinic Covid 19 myths
 
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Hoot Crawford said:
I don't remember which one, but I got the vax and I think one booster, as did my lady friend. As I have stated before, I lost 2 cousins to Covid before there was a vax, and my lady friend lost her pain management doc, who was a Covid denier up until it killed him. I probably won't bother with any more Covid vax or booster shots.

Here's a link to an article from Mayo Clinic about Covid dated July 1, 2026. And yes, I give more credence to information from the Mayo Clinic than random internet experts.

Mayo Clinic 19 myths about Covid
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There is really no such thing as a "Covid Denier." I've never heard anyone deny the existence of Covid. The term "Covid Denier" is an attempt to make thinking people who don't swallow everything they're fed look foolish. What is really foolish is believing everything we're told - by people who have already lied to us previously.
As for reported deaths from Covid - yes, anyone who is not in decent health to begin with can die of Covid, or the Flu, or a Cold.
But there is good reason for thinking people not to believe that Covid is always the true cause of death, as reported
If someone dies in a fatal accident & tests positive for Covid, the cause of death should not be listed as "Covid.":
www.aamc.org

How are COVID-19 deaths counted? It’s complicated

As the U.S. death toll nears a half-million, confusion continues over whether people die “of” COVID-19 or “with” COVID-19. Here’s what’s behind the numbers.
www.aamc.org www.aamc.org
 
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No they were labeling EVERYTHING AS "COVID" TO HELP PUSH THIS AGENDA.. It is sickening to think about!

It is just sad more ppl couldnt see something wasnt right!

Hoot Crawford said:
Here's a link to an article from Mayo Clinic about Covid dated July 1, 2026.
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I tried to read that page,it must be run by MSM!!! (I couldnt read it,it has the same lies they all tell)

This shot has indeed caused alot of heart problems for people for one...
 
Tony Nathanson said:
There is really no such thing as a "Covid Denier." I've never heard anyone deny the existence of Covid.
As for reported deaths from Covid - yes, anyone who is not in decent health to begin with can die of Covid, or the Flu, or a Cold.
But there is good reason for thinking people not to believe that Covid is always the true cause of death, as reported
If someone dies in a fatal accident & tests positive for Covid, the cause of death should not be listed as "Covid.":
www.aamc.org

How are COVID-19 deaths counted? It’s complicated

As the U.S. death toll nears a half-million, confusion continues over whether people die “of” COVID-19 or “with” COVID-19. Here’s what’s behind the numbers.
www.aamc.org www.aamc.org
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The good doctor I referenced, like many other folks, did not believe that Covid was a real health issue or a proven medical fact, so yes there were and are Covid deniers. Your deflection doesn't change that. And as for my cousins, the doctors that were trying to treat them and were able to perform the necessary tests that proved they did in fact have Covied, and that was indeed the cause of their demise, accurately recorded their deaths as due to Covid. And no, they were not in an accident or anything like that. Covid was the cause of death. As usual, denying the actual facts with half truths and innuendo doesn't change those facts. While there may have been some minimal amount of reporting issues, on a global scale, Covid caused millions of deaths, and the vax eventually saved millions.
 
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April Vee said:
No they were labeling EVERYTHING AS "COVID" TO HELP PUSH THIS AGENDA.. It is sickening to think about!

It is just sad more ppl couldnt see something wasnt right!



I tried to read that page,it must be run by MSM!!! (I couldnt read it,it has the same lies they all tell)

This shot has indeed caused alot of heart problems for people for one...
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God Bless your heart, I think you have perfectly illustrated the point I was trying to make when I posted the link.
 
Good evening to all-

The COVID deniers see what they want to see. Reality is not real to them.

COVID killed many people. The vaccines helped keep many more people from dying.

That's reality.

you all be safe and keep well- and confusion to the republicans
Ed
 
April Vee said:
Im sorry your cousins died.. But they most likely had something else wrong,THEY DIDNT DIE OF "COVID" -- It was labeled that but wasnt...
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So, were you one of the attending physicians, in the room with them, treating them, and watching them die? Unless you were, I'm gonna go with the folks who were there, and knew that they indeed died from Covid..

Odd that someone else in this thread said they are no Covid deniers, yet here you are. You are both waaay wrong.
 
I have no doubt that COVID was real, and I don't doubt that people died from it, although I don't know anyone personally who did. I have little doubt that it was invented in the Wuhan Lab and funded by U.S. taxpayers through Dr. Fauci, but it was real. I didn't get the vaccine and rarely wore a mask, but I didn't get COVID. I'm not suggesting that not getting the vaccine kept me from getting COVID, but had I gotten sick from the vaccine, my sickness would have been labeled COVID. My older brother (12 years older than me) and his wife were not vaccinated, and they both did get COVID, describing it as not being any fun but no worse than the seasonal flu. Of course, people die from the seasonal flu, too.

I believe that vaccines have, overall, been a good thing, but I don't think the COVID shots were true vaccines, and the lies that surrounded COVID have led many of us to distrust medical science and the government, and yes, Trump played a big part in that, as well, although I don't know if he knew that it was a scam.
 
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