US FDA approves first mRNA flu shot from Moderna

Ken Anderson said:
Friends are one thing, but family is another. Grandparents weren't allowed to see their grandchildren because they hadn't been vaccinated, and their own son or daughter was afraid of exposing their children to the unvaccinated. They are still family, so some semblance of a relationship would still be important, but there has to be a break there. None of my close friends were caught up in Fauci's lies, but there are acquaintances whom I am no longer interested in seeing because they acted so stupidly during the COVID fiasco.
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If people got the vaccine, why were they so afraid of the unvaccinated. Shouldn't it have been the other way around?
 
April Vee said:
Kenny I am so happy to hear this!

I was afraid to mention this on this site because most I thought took the shot and if I came out against it,members would get mad at me...

My whole family was conned.. My father believes the garbage they showed on TV.. We got in a fight about it again last week...

There is a reason they wanted people to stay home.. SO THEY HAD FULL CONTROL!! -- So people wouldnt see hospitals were not full like they were showing,etc....

Where I live they did not enforce masks.. A couple stores did though.. Trader Joes was one.. I went in did my shopping and they gave me my stuff for free..They wouldnt let me cash out,they wanted me out of there... Totally insane!!

2020 really showed me how people are and its sad.... They can be controlled so easily and WITH NO PROOF!!

Oh just stick some pictures on TV and make people think its this,that,etc....

Its sad about my friends... Thier father and mother also totally beleve this and its apparent they still do..

They are trying to get rid of me.. They lied to the police about me to get an order of protection issued... This is a family whose mother told me "We adopted you into the family" and then this... They have totally disowned me,have tried to eliminate all evidence they were ever my friends...

I have just been so sad about it.. Sad my dad wont help me,etc..

Im glad I can talk to you guys about this!


I love you all :)
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I am sorry for what you had to go through. My family was vs my decision about covid. But I loved the first few weeks of covid. I drove around and the roads were empty. I went to stores and stayed 6 feet from everyone and they from me. It was great!
I needed a minor medical procedure and had a hard time finding a docto, thoughr. I am glad I didn't NEED anything else.
 
April Vee said:
Kenny I am so happy to hear this!

I was afraid to mention this on this site because most I thought took the shot and if I came out against it,members would get mad at me...

My whole family was conned.. My father believes the garbage they showed on TV.. We got in a fight about it again last week...

There is a reason they wanted people to stay home.. SO THEY HAD FULL CONTROL!! -- So people wouldnt see hospitals were not full like they were showing,etc....

Where I live they did not enforce masks.. A couple stores did though.. Trader Joes was one.. I went in did my shopping and they gave me my stuff for free..They wouldnt let me cash out,they wanted me out of there... Totally insane!!

2020 really showed me how people are and its sad.... They can be controlled so easily and WITH NO PROOF!!

Oh just stick some pictures on TV and make people think its this,that,etc....

Its sad about my friends... Thier father and mother also totally beleve this and its apparent they still do..

They are trying to get rid of me.. They lied to the police about me to get an order of protection issued... This is a family whose mother told me "We adopted you into the family" and then this... They have totally disowned me,have tried to eliminate all evidence they were ever my friends...

I have just been so sad about it.. Sad my dad wont help me,etc..

Im glad I can talk to you guys about this!


I love you all :)
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"Oh just stick some pictures on TV and make people think its this,that,etc...."
Amazing how easily some people are fooled. Remember several years ago when George Bush Jr. was president? There was a Smallpox scare & we were told there were terrorists planning to wear backpacks with Smallpox & spray it in crowded malls, so everyone should get a Smallpox vaccine. Most people didn't want to get another Smallpox vaccine - they didn't trust its safety & thought it wasn't necessary.
So, to encourage people, they showed President Bush walking into the hospital with his coat on, then leaving a few minutes later with his coat slung over his shoulder & his sleeve rolled up & a bandaid on his arm. Of course some intelligent people wondered why they did't show him getting the vaccine.
So, during Covid, they knew they had to do better, so they showed President Biden getting.....some type of vaccine; they said it was a Covid vaccine. Of course we had no way of knowing what he was getting. We were supposed to be encouraged to get every Covid vaccine they suggested because....if the President got it, it must be safe & effective.
Really funny - because Biden got Covid THREE TIMES.
 
Tony Nathanson said:
Reminded me of one really amusing TV commercial for an airline. They really knew how to play to people's fears to get more paying passengers.
During Covid, they showed employees spraying some type of disinfectant on the empty seats while the announcer said, "We are committed to passenger safety on our airline during this epidemic. Fly with confidence."
Later, a news broadcast showed the commercial to an infectious disease specialist they had on their program to get his opinion on the effectiveness of spraying disinfectant on the seats.
He said, "Yes, that is effective, but only until more passengers board the plane."
LOL - That's what I was thinking & I'm no MD....
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Probably not effective at all, as the sanitizing of surfaces was found to be unnecessary in the as of corona viruses.
 
Hoot Crawford said:
I don't remember which one, but I got the vax and I think one booster, as did my lady friend. As I have stated before, I lost 2 cousins to Covid before there was a vax, and my lady friend lost her pain management doc, who was a Covid denier up until it killed him. I probably won't bother with any more Covid vax or booster shots.

Here's a link to an article from Mayo Clinic about Covid dated July 1, 2026. And yes, I give more credence to information from the Mayo Clinic than random internet experts.

Mayo Clinic Covid 19 myths
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I can tell you most of those "debunking" items are false. The most obvious one is "Does an mRNA vaccine affect your DNA?" Of course it does! It is the function of mRNA to give DNA instructions for generating proteins. Mayo even comments that it makes your cells manufacture protein to which your body makes antibodies. That tells me they know they are double-talking folks and just expect them to believe it because "it comes from the famous Mayo Clinic"
 
Ken Anderson said:
I have no doubt that COVID was real, and I don't doubt that people died from it, although I don't know anyone personally who did. I have little doubt that it was invented in the Wuhan Lab and funded by U.S. taxpayers through Dr. Fauci, but it was real. I didn't get the vaccine and rarely wore a mask, but I didn't get COVID. I'm not suggesting that not getting the vaccine kept me from getting COVID, but had I gotten sick from the vaccine, my sickness would have been labeled COVID. My older brother (12 years older than me) and his wife were not vaccinated, and they both did get COVID, describing it as not being any fun but no worse than the seasonal flu. Of course, people die from the seasonal flu, too.

I believe that vaccines have, overall, been a good thing, but I don't think the COVID shots were true vaccines, and the lies that surrounded COVID have led many of us to distrust medical science and the government, and yes, Trump played a big part in that, as well, although I don't know if he knew that it was a scam.
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We are wandering a bit away form mRNA vaccines, but I have read a great deal about Covid and the vaccines generated to combat it. Of course Covid was real. The gain-of-function research done at Wuhan and largely financed by the U.S. was intended to take a relatively innocuous corona virus and make it more deadly. When it was accidentally released (yep, I think it was an accident. Wuhan was supposed to be a level 4 lab but was. in fact. little more than a level 2 lab which is equivalent to a good hospital laboratory) no one had a good idea how deadly it was. Trump naively initiated the rapid development of a "vaccine" which may have already been in the works. Brave Chinese scientists smuggled the genome information to American scientists at the risk of their own lives. That information was incorporated into the vaccine technology that Big Pharma had been itching to get to market. Covid gave them that opening. Trump restricted travel from China where everyone agreed the virus originated and was loudly denounced as being paranoid by people such a Nancy Pelosi and others. I have no doubt that the "vaccines" saved a number of infirm. elderly people and those with co-morbidities such as cancer and uncontrolled diabetes, but did nothing for the young and the healthy. In fact, young active people, especially male athletes, were severely harmed by the vaccine. Many people including me think this was because the active use of the muscles into which the injection was made caused the vaccine to enter the bloodstream where it spread to various tissues of the body, particularly the heart where it induced sometime deadly myocarditis. The developers of the shot believed it would be anchored at the injection site and had not imagined that it could travel. The statement that it does not affect fecundity was known to be an issue from the very beginning by the researchers as the spike protein has an analogous antigen site to one on the human placenta. The misuse of the term FERTILITY in the Mayo statement tells me that it was not written by a trained individual. The Covid mRNA vaccines definitely can affect both fecundity and, as a result, fertility. Giving it to young girls and pregnant women was a crime against humanity in my opinion.

Of course, the virus itself can cause many of the same issues, and that was perhaps what it was designed to do. It is even admitted in Fauci's diaries that it was a designed virus and did not come form natural sources.
 
Don Alaska said:
I can tell you most of those "debunking" items are false. The most obvious one is "Does an mRNA vaccine affect your DNA?" Of course it does! It is the function of mRNA to give DNA instructions for generating proteins. Mayo even comments that it makes your cells manufacture protein to which your body makes antibodies. That tells me they know they are double-talking folks and just expect them to believe it because "it comes from the famous Mayo Clinic"
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Thanks for sharing your opinion, but I'll stick with those folks "from the famous Mayo Clinic", who have a track record of excellence that goes back decades.
 
Tony Nathanson said:
There is really no such thing as a "Covid Denier." I've never heard anyone deny the existence of Covid. The term "Covid Denier" is an attempt to make thinking people who don't swallow everything they're fed look foolish. What is really foolish is believing everything we're told - by people who have already lied to us previously.
As for reported deaths from Covid - yes, anyone who is not in decent health to begin with can die of Covid, or the Flu, or a Cold.
But there is good reason for thinking people not to believe that Covid is always the true cause of death, as reported
If someone dies in a fatal accident & tests positive for Covid, the cause of death should not be listed as "Covid.":
www.aamc.org

How are COVID-19 deaths counted? It’s complicated

As the U.S. death toll nears a half-million, confusion continues over whether people die “of” COVID-19 or “with” COVID-19. Here’s what’s behind the numbers.
www.aamc.org www.aamc.org
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A good friend, my lawyer, died at the beginning of covid. He was in the paper as having been the first victim OF covid. But there is a difference of dying WITH covid than dying FROM covid. My friend had a blood cancer and his wife had recently died. They left that out of the article. I remember a man being brought into the hospital after being in a severe motorcycle accident from which he died. He was listed as dying from covid. Covid deaths in hospitals received government money at the time.
 
Mary Stetler said:
A good friend, my lawyer, died at the beginning of covid. He was in the paper as having been the first victim OF covid. But there is a difference of dying WITH covid than dying FROM covid. My friend had a blood cancer and his wife had recently died. They left that out of the article. I remember a man being brought into the hospital after being in a severe motorcycle accident from which he died. He was listed as dying from covid. Covid deaths in hospitals received government money at the time.
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And some nurses who refused to say it was a Covid death when it was a fatal accident were fired.
 
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Mary Stetler said:
I was thinking the same about your friends (and family?). It is over. You are still standing and people can see how we are being divided when we should be coming together.
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Yea I think they can see I was right about what I told them about the shot but they wont ever admit it or be nice to me again... This is so incredibly sad :(

I am so sad Mary!!


I miss and love them so much!!
 
Lois E. Winters said:
My own pharmacist told me not to take the vaccine at all.
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When I saw my doctor for Rx refill during the mask mandate, he said, "When we're all vaccinated, we can get rid of these stupid masks."
I said, "I'm not interested in the vaccine."
I was expecting a typical doctor reaction. Instead, he really surprised me. He said, "You know.....there is something to be said for that."
 
April Vee said:
No they were labeling EVERYTHING AS "COVID" TO HELP PUSH THIS AGENDA.. It is sickening to think about!

It is just sad more ppl couldnt see something wasnt right!



I tried to read that page,it must be run by MSM!!! (I couldnt read it,it has the same lies they all tell)

This shot has indeed caused alot of heart problems for people for one...
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Fear sells - everything. And many people lose the ability to think logically when they're scared.
 
Tony Nathanson said:
My sister also said, "No way I'd ever get that vaccine; it's useless & could be harmful." But after her son wouldn't let her babysit his kids unless she was vaccinated, she got it, then changed her tune to: "Oh yeah....the vaccine protects; I'm glad I got it."
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I think its incredibly sad so many people let other people guilt them into getting this shot!

I was in a car with a friend of mine and her daughter called who is a NURSE and she said to me "You should get the shot.. Your gonna bring it home to your parents" I said "Yeah right,dont believe these lies!" -- She got mad and hung up.. She hasnt talked to me since!

I think those of us stood up to the pressure and guilt trips are the real leaders of this aweful world!

God bless us all!!
 
April Vee said:
I think its incredibly sad so many people let other people guilt them into getting this shot!

I was in a car with a friend of mine and her daughter called who is a NURSE and she said to me "You should get the shot.. Your gonna bring it home to your parents" I said "Yeah right,dont believe these lies!" -- She got mad and hung up.. She hasnt talked to me since!

I think those of us stood up to the pressure and guilt trips are the real leaders of this aweful world!

God bless us all!!
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Some hospitals gave out stickers to wear on your clothes that said, "I got my Covid Vaccine." Or "I Got My Flu Shot." So.....respect me.....

And they're still airing that TV ad (complete with guilt) about the HPV vaccine - to prevent the virus which is sexually transmitted - like 10-12 year old girls & boys are having sex. To sell it, they say it prevents cancer later in life.

My favorite is that Meningitis Vaccine ad - complete with a fake corpse with a toe tag to show what happens if you do't get the vaccine.
 
Tony Nathanson said:
When I saw my doctor for Rx refill during the mask mandate, he said, "When we're all vaccinated, we can get rid of these stupid masks."
I said, "I'm not interested in the vaccine."
I was expecting a typical doctor reaction. Instead, he really surprised me. He said, "You know.....there is something to be said for that."
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He was just feeling you out. My chiro and I are on the same page but tries to assess her patients' likes, dislikes and politics.
 
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