All things horses hopefully not AI

I followed the Imgur instructions. If this doesn’t post, I think it’s either my IPad, operator error,or both.

My second group of Keepers, all of whom have passed away by now and are laid to rest on this farm. Three Tennessee Walkers and one Arabian. All broke to death, go anywhere trail horses and I mean go anywhere; I was never one to ride groomed trails. The Arab was the best children’s horse ever; he loved babies & toddlers😇❤️

https://imgur.com/a/COib73M
 
Marie Mallory said:
The owner or maybe a wild older horse?
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It was a comment on another forum where someone said that horses are not as ideal or gentle a critter as they seem to be on TV. Maybe the guy has never been around any.

The only time I was on one is when my sister used to work at a jewelry store owned by folks who were in the "old money" show horse circuit. I went over one day and they put me on a horse that went onto Auto Pilot and started taking the jumps that were set up in the ring. My butt still hurts.
 
Connie Bennett said:
I followed the Imgur instructions. If this doesn’t post, I think it’s either my IPad, operator error,or both.

My second group of Keepers, all of whom have passed away by now and are laid to rest on this farm. Three Tennessee Walkers and one Arabian. All broke to death, go anywhere trail horses and I mean go anywhere; I was never one to ride groomed trails. The Arab was the best children’s horse ever; he loved babies & toddlers😇❤️

https://imgur.com/a/COib73M
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It looks fine to me, Connie. Let's see if it stays. The common problem folks make is to link the IMGUR webpage/URL rather than using the "Copy link..." function on the actual uploaded photo. The problem is not gonna with your iPad once the photo uploads to IMGUR. After that, it's making sure to copy/paste the right link between IMGUR and the forum.
 
Not sure anyone cares but one common misconception is that color determines a horses breed. This is confusing because a Paint is a separate breed and not a quarter horse like other colors. A Pinto can be any breed and is many times mistaken for a Paint because of similar coloring.

Also a Palomino is usually a quarter horse. as are Sorrels, Bays, Chestnuts, Duns, Roans, Buckskins, Dapple Grays, and others.

One could say he was riding a Quarter Horse and then a further identity would be, it was a Buckskin. It can get confusing with so many horse breeds and colors and patterns excepted within a breed. Quarter horses have the biggest color differences of any breed.
 
Faye Fox said:
Not sure anyone cares but one common misconception is that color determines a horses breed. This is confusing because a Paint is a separate breed and not a quarter horse like other colors. A Pinto can be any breed and is many times mistaken for a Paint because of similar coloring.

Also a Palomino is usually a quarter horse. as are Sorrels, Bays, Chestnuts, Duns, Roans, Buckskins, Dapple Grays, and others.

One could say he was riding a Quarter Horse and then a further identity would be, it was a Buckskin. It can get confusing with so many horse breeds and colors and patterns excepted within a breed. Quarter horses have the biggest color differences of any breed.
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I care🤠🤠. I also care about getting the color hues correct, thanks to grandad 😇. After all these years I still get confused as to whether paint markings are tobiano or overdo🫣🫣

There have been a lot of lively discussions on the horse forum, regarding sorrels and chestnuts.

The horses in my Christmas card above are in the brown hues but each is something different.

The TWH at the top a sorrel. What makes him a sorrel instead of a chestnut is his flaxen mane and tail.

TWH In the middle a liver chestnut.

At the bottom a medium bay Arabian. Bay is very common in the Arabian world.

TWH to the right a solid red chestnut.

My current Dutch Warmblood is called a seal bay. He is two colors of medium/dark bay when the sun hits him just right.

If this posts, the horse in the back is my Dutch Warmblood last summer. The other horse is the bay Arabian on loan to me as a companion horse.

https://imgur.com/Oh9NyHZ

I gave up years ago trying to predict the color of foals.

These were my three (with their heads over the gate) in the early 1960’s; The pony is an escapee from a neighbor . The Palomino on the left is the dam. The other two are both hers to the same stallion, lollol.

https://imgur.com/O1fy8YN
 
The rule my Grandpa used was a tobaino has all four lower legs white. 🐴🤠

My Great Great Grandma Sorrelhorse is said
to have rode a dark reddish brown Quarter Horse,
thus the name Sorrelhorse or Redhorse.
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Faye Fox said:
The rule my Grandpa used was a tobaino has all four lower legs white. 🐴🤠

My Great Great Grandma Sorrelhorse rode a dark reddish brown Quarter Horse.
No one ever called it a Chestnut and lived to brag about it. :ROFLMAO::ROFLMAO::ROFLMAO:
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She ^^^ was very pretty. Look at those gorgeous cheekbones 🤠🤠. Do you have pictures of her with her horse?

Now that you say that, I’m pretty sure it was the Quarter Horse folks west of the Mississippi who took serious offense to those of us NE of the Mississippi calling a horse sorrel😂

In the end, we agreed to disagree because what we called the brown color variations was pretty much sealed in what we learned where we grew up.
 
Connie Bennett said:
She ^^^ was very pretty. Look at those gorgeous cheekbones 🤠🤠. Do you have pictures of her with her horse?

Now that you say that, I’m pretty sure it was the Quarter Horse folks west of the Mississippi who took serious offense to those of us NE of the Mississippi calling a horse sorrel😂:ROFLMAO:

In the end, we agreed to disagree because what we called the brown color variations was pretty much sealed in what we learned where we grew up.
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No photo of any old horses. I wish I did. One cousin is said to have some but has yet to make copies or digitalize any of them. She was originally from the North Carolina Cherokee Nation. Out west most consider a red quarter horse (non roam coloring) with a light mane a Sorrel and dark mane a Chestnut.

My grandma and one brother (great uncle) told the story that sorrel was used in some Indian languages to mean red brown. They learned it from the French.
 
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Connie Bennett said:
I care🤠🤠. I also care about getting the color hues correct, thanks to grandad 😇. After all these years I still get confused as to whether paint markings are tobiano or overdo🫣🫣

There have been a lot of lively discussions on the horse forum, regarding sorrels and chestnuts.

The horses in my Christmas card above are in the brown hues but each is something different.

The TWH at the top a sorrel. What makes him a sorrel instead of a chestnut is his flaxen mane and tail.

TWH In the middle a liver chestnut.

At the bottom a medium bay Arabian. Bay is very common in the Arabian world.

TWH to the right a solid red chestnut.

My current Dutch Warmblood is called a seal bay. He is two colors of medium/dark bay when the sun hits him just right.

If this posts, the horse in the back is my Dutch Warmblood last summer. The other horse is the bay Arabian on loan to me as a companion horse.

https://imgur.com/Oh9NyHZ

I gave up years ago trying to predict the color of foals.

These were my three (with their heads over the gate) in the early 1960’s; The pony is an escapee from a neighbor . The Palomino on the left is the dam. The other two are both hers to the same stallion, lollol.

https://imgur.com/O1fy8YN
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Just when I got overo and tobiano figured out I got a sabino Tennesee Walker. ;)
 
John Brunner said:
It was a comment on another forum where someone said that horses are not as ideal or gentle a critter as they seem to be on TV. Maybe the guy has never been around any.

The only time I was on one is when my sister used to work at a jewelry store owned by folks who were in the "old money" show horse circuit. I went over one day and they put me on a horse that went onto Auto Pilot and started taking the jumps that were set up in the ring. My butt still hurts.
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I always figured the training most important for horses and ponies was to instill trust and then understanding. I
I had an arab which is supposed to be a 'hot' breed but he was whatever the rider needed. He was an endurance race horse till he blew a tendon. When he healed, by the time I bought him, I could show him, or put squealing Japanese exchange students on him. The gentlest horse I ever owned.
As far as ponies being mean, I bought my ponies 'off the rack' without knowing anything about them. One was deathly afraid of dark haired men. Lots of stories from that pony. But all did as I asked. I took them to birthday parties in my capped truck. One was a bit snippier than the others but she had an uncomfortable build from dropped pasterns and a roached back but she did the best she could.
The thing about ponies dispositions could be that they are small so might have been bullied to get them to 'do'. Also, they are smart and children are not the most considerate humans. If an equine gets away with something, it eventually can get trained into them. Inexperienced people should not get a 'green' animal.
 
Reminds me of when we would camp near a small inlet across from Assateague Island in the early 60s. You could walk right up to the horses, but get any closer than a few feet and they'd turn and walk away.

Those familiar with the Assateague horses knows that once a year they are driven from Assateague and Chincoteague islands, swimming across the inlet and into a corral where vets check them out. Then they are taken back. Books have been written using these horses as the plot ("Misty of Chincoteague.") Part of the funding for their care comes from raffling off some of the horses during the roundup (First Horse Across, First Pony Across, etc.) Around 1985 a friend was there with her 11 year old daughter, and the girl won a pony. They had a place back home (North Carolina) to board it. The girl was a little stout and the pony never got much bigger, so she only got to ride it for a couple of years. Then it just became a pet.
 
So, in the video thread (which I took off-topic) we were mentioning mental communication with horses and other animals. Yes, I definitely think in pictures, and some profanities are very upsetting to me because of this when I visualize them literally. (Just an observation)

Anyway, I have also read that this is why some animals can “see” what we are thinking when we visualize it for them, and this seems to be what was happening with Henry Blake and his horses. There are some amazing stories in his book and he did experiments to see if that was what was actually happening with the horses.

Many years ago, I had a Peruvian Paso mare, and there was a person at the local fair who said they could communicate with horses. We had invited her to come out and talk with our horses to see what she would say.
None of it seemed very unusual until she talked with Isadora , the Peruvian.

She said that Izzy told her that she never wanted to have a baby because something seemed wrong inside of her, and she was worried about that.
When I moved from Washington to Missouri, I had to sell the horses, and Izzy went to a family who had Peruvians.

She was bred, and the new owner wrote to me and said that she had died when foaling the colt. They were able to save the colt but not Izzy, so I always wondered if what that lady had told us was an actual communication since it seemed to be true, and not something a person was likely to make up , in any case.
 
Oh @Yvonne Smith that is a heartbreaker to read it now. It seems as if the person reading the horses actually was reading them.

I need to order the book you suggested 🤠

While Duncan, my Dutch Warmblood is very smart, I don’t get the sense he wants to say a lot. He spent his life being a “Stepford horse” in show jumping so I think not being allowed to have an opinion is so deeply ingrained in him, that at 30-ish he is too old to change a lot. He will ask for me to turn the barrel fan back on, if I’m not quick enough after putting the hay down. I jump because I want him to know he’s allowed to talk and ask.

The Arab, on the other hand is a talker , albeit aggressive in his actions because he was teased pretty bad by people when his owner wasn’t around. Considering I walk with a cane and can only work with him on the other side of the rail for my own safety, he has come a very long way from when he first tried to bite my head off. He has made so much communication & respect progress, that I won’t want to send him home when the time comes. His owner got him out of a bad situation when he was two. He is now 15. She trained him and spent endless hours with him. But she has been MIA for two months. My brother thinks she feels the horse is safer with me and is distancing herself from him for his own well being. I may have to figure out how to last ten more years to at least get him to 25 and me to 89🥸🥸.

I really appreciate your stories @Yvonne Smith 🤠. They support the pictures vs. abstract theory when it comes to animals🤠🤠
 
For many years, I had a Gladiator Doberman named Bruno. He had been a professionally trained guard dog, and the lumber mill bought him when they went on strike to keep angry workers from vandalizing the mill.
When the strike was settled and the workers came back, the mill was going to have Bruno put down because they thought he was dangerous, but one of the mill workers asked to take him.

When I found Bruno, it was early spring, he was chained outside in the cold Idaho mud, and his food was scattered all over the ground. I asked the owners if they would give him to me.
He was skin and bones, but even then, he was a magnificent dog.
I was on the road as an insurance agent, and Bruno went everywhere with me. We became totally bonded.

One day, I was taking Bruno for a walk, and there was a little garter snake lying in the road that had been partially run over, but was still alive. I didn’t know if it could live or not , but I was thinking that its only chance would be if I moved it out of the road and into the ditch. As I was thinking that thought, Bruno reached down and carefully…..with just his lips….. picked up that snake and set it into the ditch.
I was totally shocked, and the only explanation that I have ever had is that Bruno somehow read my mind exactly and moved the snake to safety.
 
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