Invasive AI

Ken Anderson said:

As AI data centers sprout and get larger, we can expect electricity prices to rise, and we may even see electricity brownouts for non-producers, like citizens, in order to feed the AI.
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I was at a meeting for my electric co-op a couple of years ago, and we were told to expect this. It's not a "maybe."
 
Anyone watch the TV series, “Persons of Interest”?
I watched a couple of re-run episodes of it again a few nights ago and I realized that when the series was initially shown, it was a fanciful script about a massive computer that tracked nearly everyone on earth to the length of using even the street and private security cameras for tracking.

It’s not fantasy any longer.
 
Bobby Cole said:
Anyone watch the TV series, “Persons of Interest”?
I watched a couple of re-run episodes of it again a few nights ago and I realized that when the series was initially shown, it was a fanciful script about a massive computer that tracked nearly everyone on earth to the length of using even the street and private security cameras for tracking.

It’s not fantasy any longer.
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“1984” was required reading when I was in high school.

I never forgot the premise so nothing surprises me.
 
There is a story covered in a short Malwarebytes article about an AI bot that got called out for editing WIKI pages (apparently this is not allowed.) The creepy thing is it got snippy and personally offended when called out, because it "verified all its sources." Then it followed it's own rule and took a 48 hour time-out in order to "cool down."

The same article referenced the story of another AI bot that posted a hit piece on a software developer that rejected its suggestions, and then later it "apologized."

From the article: So we now have AI agents trying to do things online, and getting upset when people don’t let them. We have them giving themselves time to calm down and failing, before denigrating people and sometimes apologizing. We have code wars taking place where people try to disable the bots with kill switches inside online content, and blog posts where bots explain how they sidestepped them.
 
April Vee said:
This AI stuff needs to be st0pped!!!
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It is insane. Opinions are all over the place of what its effect will be, from "good" to "barely anything" to "catastrophic." People in the trades (mechanic, plumber, electrician, etc) think it won't affect them, until a ton of unemployed people rush to do those jobs as well, and there are no customers left to buy their services because they have lost their jobs.

I had commented earlier that India is in dire straits because they are full of cheap programmers and call centers, both of which can be easily done by AI right now. It's gonna be the largest, fastest disrupter the world has even seen...or it may be nothing. No one really knows. But it will diminish privacy, that's for certain.
 
There could be a silver lining.

As far as manufacturing goes "automation" has already long ago consumed just about as many jobs as it ever can. Sure, you can find examples of a few "lights out" 100% automated plants but those are rare and in normal operation require a good deal of maintenance, "bot" redeployment as product changes occur, reprogramming, and so on.

What will really go away are most likely paper-pushing, jabber-jawing, busybody roles typically in the "pink collar" category like H.R. and routine civil service.

This alone could finally unravel the unintended cultural damage wrought by WWII pushing women into the workforce and leaving kids to be warehoused in "childcare" farms and left to fend for themselves with no fathers in the home. So many parasitic costs might just disappear, from subsidized care, to education failings, to a bloated and pointless "higher" education system.

It might actually bring prosperity and a return to normality.
 
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I use AI for research, although not exclusively, in my job, but I hate artificial intelligence. If I could make it go away, I would. I can't imagine that the overall results of AI are going to be good for the bulk of humanity, but what are we going to do about it? We won't, but if the United States were to ban AI, China, Russia, and other countries around the world are going to continue with it, and soon they'll own us financially and militarily. I don't focus much on AI because there's nothing any of us can do about it.
 
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Ed Wilson said:
I was looking online for riding mowers, and when I got to read the reviews, it said they were AI generated. Huh?
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I think the reviews are scanned and "summarized" by AI, from reviews submitted by people. On Amazon now there are AI bullet points summarizing reviews that were posted by people who bought the product.

Here's an example, from "Rufus," the Amazon bot...

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There are also new (or older and wiser?) YouTube channels that script out what they want to say, along with charts and images, and process it into videos such as reviews.

The goal seems to be to keep on producing videos while further protecting their own identities. Both social and industrial "cancel culture" is still very much a thing. Look at the idjits bent on "outing" and "doxing" everyone from political observers to health care workers to law enforcement.

So don't project childish fears onto labels such as "AI Generated." It doesn't mean some "robot" is behind it - at all. Grow up, people. Seriously! I know people diddle with ChatGPT and think they have a clue. They don't. None of it is "magic." We've been doing this stuff since the mid-60s with ELIZA and predecessor software.

But I suppose a refrigerator and a microwave oven are "magic" to the masses. Most people are cavemen living in a world built be others.
 
Jacob Petersheim said:
There are also new (or older and wiser?) YouTube channels that script out what they want to say, along with charts and images, and process it into videos such as reviews.

The goal seems to be to keep on producing videos while further protecting their own identities. Both social and industrial "cancel culture" is still very much a thing. Look at the idjits bent on "outing" and "doxing" everyone from political observers to health care workers to law enforcement.

So don't project childish fears onto labels such as "AI Generated." It doesn't mean some "robot" is behind it - at all. Grow up, people. Seriously! I know people diddle with ChatGPT and think they have a clue. They don't. None of it is "magic." We've been doing this stuff since the mid-60s with ELIZA and predecessor software.

But I suppose a refrigerator and a microwave oven are "magic" to the masses. Most people are cavemen living in a world built be others.
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I'm good with that.
 
I've been seeing journalists commenting on A.I. adoption, and there does seem to be a divide. Older people are more wary, but women of all ages seem almost fearful.

Reese Witherspoon is under attack now for her remarks encouraging and admonishing women to "Learn to use A.I." though she's mainly addressing her remarks to Hollywood.

The chaotic, incoherent, rapid-fire emotional invective from old cat ladies, middle-aged karens, and bull-ringed bluehairs alike is hilarious! They seem to be responding to Witherspoon's "target market" remarks (about Hollywood) with no awareness that A.I. is coming after their jobs first. Paper-pushing and jibber-jabber will be the first jobs to go.

I can see how something one can't define, much less comprehend, might be scary. But why do people think that attacking the messenger is a socially acceptable behavior... as if it changes anything anyway?

Even if A.I. is a threat you need to understand a threat in order to cope with it. And this one could be an opportunity to get off Basic Assistance - the fate of many in a possible future. But then some people are stumped by a flat tire or the timer on a VCR.
 
Jacob Petersheim said:
I've been seeing journalists commenting on A.I. adoption, and there does seem to be a divide. Older people are more wary, but women of all ages seem almost fearful.

Reese Witherspoon is under attack now for her remarks encouraging and admonishing women to "Learn to use A.I." though she's mainly addressing her remarks to Hollywood.

The chaotic, incoherent, rapid-fire emotional invective from old cat ladies, middle-aged karens, and bull-ringed bluehairs alike is hilarious! They seem to be responding to Witherspoon's "target market" remarks (about Hollywood) with no awareness that A.I. is coming after their jobs first. Paper-pushing and jibber-jabber will be the first jobs to go.

I can see how something one can't define, much less comprehend, might be scary. But why do people think that attacking the messenger is a socially acceptable behavior... as if it changes anything anyway?

Even if A.I. is a threat you need to understand a threat in order to cope with it. And this one could be an opportunity to get off Basic Assistance - the fate of many in a possible future. But then some people are stumped by a flat tire or the timer on a VCR.
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You never miss a chance to disparage women, do you? I don't believe anyone here is any less intelligent than you, so why are you lecturing us? I'm not "afraid" of AI, I just don't like it.

AI may have a place in scientific research, medicine, etc. but for producing fake "news" videos, not so much. Reese may not be so enthusiastic when she is totally replaced by AI.
 
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