The attacks on Iran have begun

Jacob Petersheim said:
The spin out of London is insane.

But where is all of the body-count and gore from the Ukraine mess, hmm?

I agree with comments by Trump. The UK is becoming a former ally.
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Funny how everyone (including me) was criticizing Obama for marginalizing our "closest ally" in 2008. Recall when Tony Blair gave Obama a desk set made of wood salvaged from the Amistad, and Barry reciprocated with tapes of his own speeches (in a non-European format.) Yet here we (and they) are today.
 
Jacob Petersheim said:
More than most will want to sit through, but if you like planes:


The amazing B-52, still relevant.
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Informative video on lots of levels.

I've been hanging around on another larger forum following the war. Lots of information from lots of different places on lots of different aspects. Many folks there served and others are currently in "information" positions. The thread is on Page 250, with 50 comments of varying value/page. It started on Jan 6.

That thread is here if you're interested. It will suck your day away if you let it.
 
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Jacob Petersheim said:
The spin out of London is insane.

But where is all of the body-count and gore from the Ukraine mess, hmm?

I agree with comments by Trump. The UK is becoming
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A fairly reliable source. 1.350k Ukrainian in Germany with full benefits from housing to medical to cash. 349k men of military service age and 500k women.


www.welt.de

Kriegsflüchtlinge: „Wehrfähige junge Männer gehören nicht ins deutsche Sozialleistungssystem“ - WELT

Die Zahl ukrainischer männlicher Flüchtlinge in der Altersgruppe 18 bis 63 Jahre steigt in Deutschland – trotz eines Ausreiseverbots in der Heimat. Die Union will dagegen vorgehen, dass viele „wehrfähige junge Männer“ hierzulande Sozialleistungen beziehen.
www.welt.de www.welt.de
 
The rumor unconfirmed going around is that Netanyahu has been killed. There was some kind of a strike, and it was announced that one of his main men was killed in the strike. However, Netanyahu was also supposed to be at the meeting where the other person was killed.
At this time, there seems to be no definite information being released either way, and the speculation is that they might just wait and later say he died from some sudden illness.
 
Yvonne Smith said:
The rumor unconfirmed going around is that Netanyahu has been killed. There was some kind of a strike, and it was announced that one of his main men was killed in the strike. However, Netanyahu was also supposed to be at the meeting where the other person was killed.
At this time, there seems to be no definite information being released either way, and the speculation is that they might just wait and later say he died from some sudden illness.
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There were such claims off & on a few days ago, but Iran also claimed to have assassinated Trump. Meanwhile, Iran's new Ayatollah "addressed the nation" via a letter.

You gotta take everything they say and hold it up to a mirror.
 
It is looking more and more like Netanyahu (and maybe his wife), are dead, and have been dead for a while. Israel has released at least three fake AI videos showing that he is alive and well, and all of them have been debunked as not real.

The videos show him wandering around the countryside, having foo-foo coffee in a shop, and one is just chatting with some people. However, he has not been at the last several defense briefings, which is where he should have been, if alive, and not out traveling like he is on vacation.

If he is not actually dead, or hurt badly, then Israel is trying to make people think that he died, by putting out the fake videos. It is all too weird.
 
The head of security for Iran as well as the leader who led the slaughter of protesters were both eliminated overnight. The elected President is still in place, and I wonder if that is who Trump and Netanyahu have picked to leave in place as the VP was left in place in Venezuela?
 
Aljazeera also comments that the campaign is nothing like what was done in Iraq. They say it more resembles the Allies attack on Nazi Germany toward the end of WWII as it is demolishing production capacities and factories.
 
I don't mean to be a naysayer, but I have a bad feeling about this war. Destruction, lives lost, and money spent and what will actually change in the long run? We can't change their way of living.

If Iran was nearly able to make nuclear weapons, it is justified. But I still worry.

BTW, my son has a friend who was a marine and served on the ground in Iraq, He said they absolutely did have biological weapons. He saw evidence of it with his own eyes.
 
Shirley Martin said:
I don't mean to be a naysayer, but I have a bad feeling about this war. Destruction, lives lost, and money spent and what will actually change in the long run? We can't change their way of living.

If Iran was nearly able to make nuclear weapons, it is justified. But I still worry.

BTW, my son has a friend who was a marine and served on the ground in Iraq, He said they absolutely did have biological weapons. He saw evidence of it with his own eyes.
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Every war is destruction, lives lost, money spent. Hopefully this one will bring Iran back into the 1970s. Women getting killed for laughing in public, for their mandated head cover not being in place, because their husband wanted them gone? Old men with wicked fantasies using a religious book to twist its message their way.
Follow the gossip about the khomeni’s son not being able to produce an heir. Short term wives who got paid and disappeared. ???
 
Shirley Martin said:
I don't mean to be a naysayer, but I have a bad feeling about this war. Destruction, lives lost, and money spent and what will actually change in the long run? We can't change their way of living.
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So do I. Our past excursions into the Middle East were not successes. We might win a war, but we don't change the outcomes. I hope it works out, and Trump is getting way more support around the world that we did previously, even as the Democrats on Congress are hoping and doing everything they can to bring about a defeat for the United States.
 
Ken Anderson said:
So do I. Our past excursions into the Middle East were not successes. We might win a war, but we don't change the outcomes. I hope it works out, and Trump is getting way more support around the world that we did previously, even as the Democrats on Congress are hoping and doing everything they can to bring about a defeat for the United States.
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Can you change an ideology by kissing and dropping money? Please look at the other side. Egypt is still a heaven for bomb clean up companies. Let’s not talk about women in Iran. First responders disregarding them when cleaning up after mayor earthquakes but treating males. Ken, how does that sit with you? Pregnant 12 year olds not knowing how to give birth? Teenagers setting themselves on fire for fear of parental punishment for talking in public? Let’s not talk bout medical treatment. I could go on.
 
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