"Tony" Thought Journal 3.0

Tony Page said:
I and my wife just got back from an appointment I had at MSK for my 6 month check up for prostate cancer. I met with a nurse practitioner and I was very surprised at her knowledge of my case being I got two different oncologists one from MSK'S, The other from New York Cancer and Blood. She was terrific explaining the different symptoms and how they were caused either by radiation or the hormone pill. She said the radiation is causing irritation in my prostate urinary area which will last for at least another 6 months. My symptoms for urinary discomfort and bowel problems are all originating from this irritation.
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Everyone has different symptoms and results depending, I suppose, on the extent of their cancer, treatment, and individual characteristics. I chose the radiation-only option several year ago, and my PSA numbers are still good, although some of the symptoms that were suppose to have gone away ten years ago are still there, although I have incorporated them into just a part of what it is to be me, and I sometimes forget they're there. Certainly, it's nothing that keeps me feeling miserable, however.
 
Ken Anderson said:
Everyone has different symptoms and results depending, I suppose, on the extent of their cancer, treatment, and individual characteristics. I chose the radiation-only option several year ago, and my PSA numbers are still good, although some of the symptoms that were suppose to have gone away ten years ago are still there, although I have incorporated them into just a part of what it is to be me, and I sometimes forget they're there. Certainly, it's nothing that keeps me feeling miserable, however.
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Glad yor PSA is in the good range 👍 and your not letting any residual symptoms control you.

I felt that some of the symptoms will not completely disappear. There are days that are more bearable than others but I can live with it either way. I just have to learn when I can do something, and when I can't to rest.
 
Tony Page said:
I felt that some of the symptoms will not completely disappear. There are days that are more bearable than others but I can live with it either way. I just have to learn when I can do something, and when I can't to rest.
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It sounds like a strange thing to say, but some of the things that don't get better insofar as going away or diminishing nevertheless get better in that you get used to it to the point of no longer registering it as a bad thing until you think of it again.
 
Ken Anderson said:
It sounds like a strange thing to say, but some of the things that don't get better insofar as going away or diminishing nevertheless get better in that you get used to it to the point of no longer registering it as a bad thing until you think of it again.
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I agree it kind of becomes part of your Norm.
I know with my spinal stenosis there are days when I have pain but I don't think about it it's like it's not there. When I start thinking about it I reached for the Advil to take the edge off. It's strange.

There is a certain level of pain that doesn't bother me it's my norm
 
Ken Anderson said:
Everyone has different symptoms and results depending, I suppose, on the extent of their cancer, treatment, and individual characteristics. I chose the radiation-only option several year ago, and my PSA numbers are still good, although some of the symptoms that were suppose to have gone away ten years ago are still there, although I have incorporated them into just a part of what it is to be me, and I sometimes forget they're there. Certainly, it's nothing that keeps me feeling miserable, however.
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I was going to say this; Tony's nurse was being optimistic about that "6 month" thing. I'm 5 years out and still having cancer treatment parting gifts, but at least we are all still here to complain about it.
 
I ordered from Pine Tree seeds back in February certified German Butterball Potatoes 🥔. I expect that I should be getting them soon, they said they would ship at the appropriate time for planting for my area. I'm not planning on putting these in the ground. I also purchased potato pots that I'm planning on planting them in. these are the pots that have a size door that can be opened to take out some "new potatoes", while leaving the rest to grow to maturity.

l was thinking about how many ways you can cook potatoes. By my count you have mashed, french fry, potato in a boat, baked, roasted, hash brown, home fries, croquettes, tater tots, steak fries, that's all I can think of right now but I'm sure I must have missed some. I wonder if potato has the most ways of cooking it than any other vegetable?

This morning I have to go to New York Cancer and Blood to pick up my hormone prescription. While I'm out I think I'll pick up breakfast sandwiches for the family. My daughter and grandkids are off today it's the start of the spring break.

I am very proud of my 11 year old grandson, he's the brightest kid I have ever met. Apparently he's been helping other kids in the class that are having a difficult time with school work. The teachers noticed and gave him a special award. if one of the teachers didn't send a note to my daughter about this we would have never known he didn't say a word to us. He's got like a photographic memory but it's not just that, he understands what he reads his comprehension is amazing. When he moved up to Middle School one of his teachers told my daughter he's been teaching for a number of years and that my grandson was exceptional, and that he's never had a student like that.

Whenever I go to a thrift store or a library sale I look for books that he might like he loves to read. About a year ago I purchased a college level textbook on biology in a thrift store and gave it to him. A few weeks later I asked him how he liked it, he said it was very interesting he started telling me about sections that he really liked to be honest most of the stuff he said I didn't even understand.
 
My wife and daughter with my grandkids just left for South Carolina. They are going to have a stopover so the trip will take 2 days.

We have a niece and a nephew living down there, stopping to see them will be part of their itinerary. My daughter has made a connection with one of the real estates down there they will also be stopping there to look at the housing market.

The plan is to return home on Sunday April 12th. The kids have school the following Monday.

So I got a whole week to get myself into trouble. I was warned not to work in the yard without anybody home. There are things I do want to accomplish this week we'll see how it goes.

My daughter and and her husband have been separated, he moved back in with his family, but he stops here at 3 or 4 days a week to see his kids. He is stopping by sometime this afternoon, I'm sure my wife and daughter put him up to this to check up on me.

I want to try to get some sleep I've been up since 1:30 a.m. I woke up with stomach issues I had to take an Imodium.

I am looking forward to Sunrise.
 
The night my wife and family left us South Carolina, I was having stomach issues my lower intestine had some pain so I took an Imodium.

After they left the first thing I did was block the staircase to prevent my daughter's dog Penny from going upstairs, not an easy climb for me. I let Penny and my dog Tia roam free downstairs, and I went back to bed. For the next 3 hours they got me out of bed every half hour by barking. I decided then to stay up have breakfast my stomach was feeling better, however I was really tired from being up most of the night. We have a third dog Twinkle, 🐕 who sleeps in the dog crate at night, I let her free. I decided to become a couch potato because I was tired, actually it's the favorite chair potato.

The dogs are sleeping on the dog bed, I was starting to zone out on my favorite chair, when the dog start barking and I hear a rustling at the front door, it was my son-in-law letting himself in. No rest for me. I spent the next 6 hours listening him talking about, his jobs, vacations, baseball card collection, his walking (he doesn't drive), all the while envisioning putting my head on my pillow and getting some sleep. I broke the conversation by taking him out to eat. When we got back I immediately put the TV on. He left about a half hour later.

last night Tia slept in the bedroom with me, Penny wanted to stay outside. I got about 3 hours sleep when Tia was crying to go spend some time with Penny. they were quiet most of the night until normal waking hours.

I got Twinkle out of her cage, and let the three of them outside to do their business.

I felt hot I thought maybe the heat was too high I was still tired and achy. Checking my temperature I was at 101°, I took two Advil and I brought the temperature down to 99°. My wife text me this morning that they still had another 5 hours to get to where they wanted to be in South Carolina. Not to worry her I said nothing about having a fever and not feeling good. I'm hoping this is just a stomach virus or a flu and will be gone in a day.

I'm hoping the dogs behave so I can get some sleep in this afternoon.

I should learn never the plan things in my head because there's always something disruptive.
 
I you decide to move to South Carolina @Tony Page , be aware that many of the things you have enjoyed your entire life in the NYC area may not be available. We know people who moved form the New York area to North Carolina and they were terribly upset that their favorite cheeses, pasta, and deli items were no available in North Carolina. Things may have changed some as that was years ago, but the society and culture are quite different.

I feel for your loneliness. My wife will be gone at my suggestion to help with great-grandson care for the first two weeks of May. She does so much here that I am sure I will be at wits' end awaiting her return.
 
Just got a report of a loud explosion in this area. It has been reported in many of the surrounding towns covering a very large area. Some people reported as something hitting their house. And eyewitness claims to have seen a meteor shower just before the explosion.

I did not hear or feel anything but I'm half asleep. Maybe some newscast will explain what it is I'd be curious to know.
 
The explosion I reported on Tuesday was from the sonic boom of a meteor. It had to be large because a Jersey resident filmed it and it was pretty bright during daylight hours.

I like looking at Craigslist at the free stuff listings. Today there was somebody on there looking for "Rutin Chickens", he's looking for two that someone might want to give away for free to keep his chicken company. He claims he had three but two died and now he's looking for two to replace them.

Until today I never heard of Rutin Chickens, I looked them up online here's what I found.

Rutin chickens are a popular "mini chicken" hybrid created by crossing blue-breasted quail and Asian grey partridges. Weighing less than 50 grams, they are considered the world's smallest chickens, capable of being kept as indoor pets in small, specialized enclosures. They are highly productive, laying up to 300 small eggs yearly.

I wonder if they can fly they look cute enough to roam the property. They look like Quail to me I didn't realize Quail was considered chicken.


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I guess a quail hybrid can be a chicken just like a Sage Grouse is called a Prairie Chicken. Some that go on taste, say a rattlesnake taste like chicken. I disagree! Rattle snake taste like rattlesnake, however I had it roasted over a campfire and not oil pressure cooked with 11 herbs and spices.

I find it hard to believe that one quail hybrid could lay 300 eggs a year. Maybe they were referring to a covey of 50. So if these are called chickens, are they a flock or a covey? :sneaky:
 
Faye Fox said:
I guess a quail hybrid can be a chicken just like a Sage Grouse is called a Prairie Chicken. Some that go on taste, say a rattlesnake taste like chicken. I disagree! Rattle snake taste like rattlesnake, however I had it roasted over a campfire and not oil pressure cooked with 11 herbs and spices.

I find it hard to believe that one quail hybrid could lay 300 eggs a year. Maybe they were referring to a covey of 50. So if these are called chickens, are they a flock or a covey? :sneaky:
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I wonder how many eggs would be needed to be equivalent to one jumbo chicken egg?
 
Tony Page said:
Glad yor PSA is in the good range 👍 and your not letting any residual symptoms control you.

I felt that some of the symptoms will not completely disappear. There are days that are more bearable than others but I can live with it either way. I just have to learn when I can do something, and when I can't to rest.
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Tony, I'm thinking that radiation may be the best treatment for me. I will check more into it ,but so far since my plan is not so much to live longer but what time I have is to live better with less of this agonizing pain from spinal cancer.
I sure don't think chemo will help. Maybe if prognosis were better but since it is already eating away at bones.
Far as you and Jen go, I think you both have a great chance at more productive lives, :cool:(y)
 
Tony Page said:
I wonder how many eggs would be needed to be equivalent to one jumbo chicken egg?
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Very interesting that the Rutin egg is 33 grams and a large chicken egg 60 grams. A partridge egg is 21 grams and a quail egg is 12 grams. It must be the variety of Asian quail and partridge mix, that has the Rutin producing eggs the size of both species mixed together. 12 + 21 = 33. One would think a hybrid like that would have a smaller egg than the Partridge, but not so according to the info I can find.

With birds producing eggs half that of a chicken like Barred Rock, but eating a lot less food, I would certainly give them a try if I was younger and wanted to get in the egg business. Average weight of adult Barred Rock = 96 oz and Rutin = 1.7 oz. I question that a bird the size of a Rutin could lay an egg half the size of a chicken, but that is the info I can find online. Even if their eggs were small as a quail, one fifth that of a chicken, they are 94 oz smaller so they would still be efficient. I would like to confirm how big is the Rutin egg?
 
Faye Fox said:
Very interesting that the Rutin egg is 33 grams and a large chicken egg 60 grams. A partridge egg is 21 grams and a quail egg is 12 grams. It must be the variety of Asian quail and partridge mix, that has the Rutin producing eggs the size of both species mixed together. 12 + 21 = 33. One would think a hybrid like that would have a smaller egg than the Partridge, but not so according to the info I can find.

With birds producing eggs half that of a chicken like Barred Rock, but eating a lot less food, I would certainly give them a try if I was younger and wanted to get in the egg business. Average weight of adult Barred Rock = 96 oz and Rutin = 1.7 oz. I question that a bird the size of a Rutin could lay an egg half the size of a chicken, but that is the info I can find online. Even if their eggs were small as a quail, one fifth that of a chicken, they are 94 oz smaller so they would still be efficient. I would like to confirm how big is the Rutin egg?
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I remember years ago when I ordered day old chicks, the breeder that I used had a Leghorn that was breed to eat less so that they were profitable when laying eggs. I can't remember all the details but it is interesting how much feed cost per egg. At it's peak I had 32 laying hens, all type of chicks like leghorns, Rhode Island Reds, Easter chicken Etc.
 
Marie Mallory said:
Tony, I'm thinking that radiation may be the best treatment for me. I will check more into it ,but so far since my plan is not so much to live longer but what time I have is to live better with less of this agonizing pain from spinal cancer.
I sure don't think chemo will help. Maybe if prognosis were better but since it is already eating away at bones.
Far as you and Jen go, I think you both have a great chance at more productive lives, :cool:(y)
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Marie--until the oncology doctors have made a full assessment, they won't offer a treatment plan. Typically they will make treatment recommendations based on the type of cancer and the patient's general health. You will have input and decisions to make, but the doctors will propose a treatment plan based on what has worked best on the type of cancer you have, taking your general health into account. (Your heart issues, diabetes, etc.).
 
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