Tariffs, "the most beautiful word in the world"

Madge Bumstead

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From 🇨🇦, to all of our friends and neighbours around the world, it's a BIG BEAUTIFUL DAY today thanks to the Supreme Court Ruling striking down donny's illegal tariffs.
 
My understanding is that the tariffs are not going to be stopped, but they have to be under a different ruling than they were done at first. We will probably see what President Trump has planned , because he always has backup plans for everything he does. He is definitely NOT going to let other countries tariff us and we can’t balance things out.

If Alberta leaves Canada, that is going to be pretty interesting, too, and then they would not be part of whatever tariffs are on the rest of Canada. Alberta has almost all of the oil in Canada, so we will definitely be making trade deals with Alberta.
 
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Fox News Facebook:

NEW--President Trump signals that despite disagreeing with the court's holding, he is not backing down on future tariffs:

"Although I firmly disagree with the court's holding today, the decision might not substantially constrain a president's ability to order tariffs going forward."
"That's because numerous other federal statutes, which is so true, authorize the president to impose tariffs and might justify most, if not all, of the tariffs issued in this case. Even more tariffs."
 
Really? How so?
Exactly ! How can our tariffs be illegal, but the ones Canada (and other countries) have are perfectly fine and legal and we should keep on paying the tariffs for items from other countries ?

The other side of that, is people in the US are claiming that the Americans are the ones paying the tariffs.
If that were true, none of the other countries would care if we had tariffs, if our own citizens paid them.
Plus, one of the things they are saying is that we would have to pay back the other countries for the tariffs; so obviously, it is other countries who pay our tariffs, just like we pay theirs.
And ours are just as legal as any other country’s tariffs, despite what the Canadians think.
 
Just look at all the good those tariffs accomplished... manufacturing jobs moving back to the USA. I don't know how any American could complain about decent jobs returning.

I haven't read the Court's opinion so I need to see exactly what it says because Trump never gives up without a fight. People need to remember that the Supreme Court INTERPRETS the law; they do not ENFORCE the law.
 
Those anxious to give aid and comfort to enemies of the American people are pretty quick to fix upon a technical decision resting on "the length of a piece of string." The ruling appears to be far less about "what" is legal but instead "how much of it." Trump's tariff actions have plenty of precedent.

Be that as it may, this could also be a trap that has now been sprung. We'll just have to wait and see what comes next.

If anything gets "refunded" it would of course go into the pockets for corporate importers, not to the consumer. The latter will go from winners to big losers. I don't see much to celebrate there.
 
From 🇨🇦, to all of our friends and neighbours around the world, it's a BIG BEAUTIFUL DAY today thanks to the Supreme Court Ruling striking down donny's illegal tariffs.
You may want to look around a bit.
 
From 🇨🇦, to all of our friends and neighbours around the world, it's a BIG BEAUTIFUL DAY today thanks to the Supreme Court Ruling striking down donny's illegal tariffs.
For the last several hundred years, Canada and the USA have been friends and helped each other, because that is what good neighbors do. We have subsidized Canada to help their economy, and protected Canadians from any kind of attack, and will probably continue to do so.
This is something that we gave without question, and Canadians appreciated. We crossed each other’s borders freely and vacationed and shopped in each other’s country.

There is an old saying, and I am sure that Canadians have heard it , too, @Madge Bumstead .
It is “Do not bite the hand that feeds you”.

You will find that this forum is not like the liberal forum that you arrived here from, and most of us are patriotic Americans, proud of our country, and respectful of our leaders, even when we do not personally care for them, we respect their authority.
We are a happy, chatty group of seniors, but we do not want to hear our country disrespected.
 
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Canadians in particular should not celebrate anything. The USMCA is set to be renegotiated in May (I think) and since Mr. Carney has been so anti-American, I suspect Canada will be hit hard. Trump has said that trade agreements between Canada and Mexico will be negotiated separately for exactly that reason. Canada is trying very hard to negotiate with other countries to the exclusion of the U.S. Most of the countries Carney is dealing with are net exporters with little to no room for imports from Canada. We'll see what happens later this year, but I expect Canadian dairy and lumber to be hit hard with quotas or tariffs due to Carney's actions. I am no prophet, but I think Scott Bessent is the smartest of Trump's cabinet members and totally knows what is going on. He doesn't seem to be upset at all. Western media will make any apparent Trump defeat in a victory for the Left, but it is not necessarily so.
 
Western media will make any apparent Trump defeat in a victory for the Left, but it is not necessarily so.

Heaven knows the hysterical, crazy leftists have very little to celebrate these days. Other than making ICE agents' jobs more difficult and scouring the Epstein files they don't have a lot going on. Maybe the left in Canada would like all the illegals shipped to them; that would be a more cost-effective deportment process for the USA. :D
 
Heaven knows the hysterical, crazy leftists have very little to celebrate these days. Other than making ICE agents' jobs more difficult and scouring the Epstein files they don't have a lot going on. Maybe the left in Canada would like all the illegals shipped to them; that would be a more cost-effective deportment process for the USA. :D
If memory does not fail me some returned to the US because of the weather and cost of living.
 
Canadians in particular should not celebrate anything. The USMCA is set to be renegotiated in May (I think) and since Mr. Carney has been so anti-American, I suspect Canada will be hit hard. Trump has said that trade agreements between Canada and Mexico will be negotiated separately for exactly that reason. Canada is trying very hard to negotiate with other countries to the exclusion of the U.S. Most of the countries Carney is dealing with are net exporters with little to no room for imports from Canada. We'll see what happens later this year, but I expect Canadian dairy and lumber to be hit hard with quotas or tariffs due to Carney's actions. I am no prophet, but I think Scott Bessent is the smartest of Trump's cabinet members and totally knows what is going on. He doesn't seem to be upset at all. Western media will make any apparent Trump defeat in a victory for the Left, but it is not necessarily so.
What are you basing your assumption on, Don?
 
Trump just signed an EO for a 10% tariff on all nations this morning. I don't know to what you are referring @Madge Bumstead. The two biggest abusers of the U.S. are China and Canada. Canada has essentially blocked America lumber and dairy products in Canada while pushing Canadian dairy and lumber in the U.S. to the point of nearly putting American lumber out of business with the subsidies. The Canadian military, once a formidable force in the world has dwindled to nearly nothing, relying on the Americans to defend them. It is truly a sad thing. If you have followed Carney's negotiation with China and India, you know what I was writing about there. If you listen to carney's recent speeches, they are very anti-Trump and, ironically, he is supposedly not really even Canadian, being a permanent resident of the UK and having much of his business with the UK and the EU.
 
I see now that the tariffs were raised to 15% on some nations. There is a new round of tariffs coming and Schumer is making ignorant statements about the U.S. trade deficit and inflation in a public speech. I don't know if he is really that ignorant or if he is just appealing to ignorant and uninformed voters.
 
Trump just signed an EO for a 10% tariff on all nations this morning. I don't know to what you are referring @Madge Bumstead. The two biggest abusers of the U.S. are China and Canada. Canada has essentially blocked America lumber and dairy products in Canada while pushing Canadian dairy and lumber in the U.S. to the point of nearly putting American lumber out of business with the subsidies. The Canadian military, once a formidable force in the world has dwindled to nearly nothing, relying on the Americans to defend them. It is truly a sad thing. If you have followed Carney's negotiation with China and India, you know what I was writing about there. If you listen to carney's recent speeches, they are very anti-Trump and, ironically, he is supposedly not really even Canadian, being a permanent resident of the UK and having much of his business with the UK and the EU.
Mr. Carney's speeches deserve to be pointed.

Take for instance Mr. Carney's Davos speech. It will go down in history as being one of the greatest speeches of all time. World leaders are still raving about it and countries around the globe reflecting on its brilliance.

For once a world leader stood up like a man and stated it like it is. Nothing anti-American about it, just the truth, addressed and delivered on point to an imperialist wanna-be.
 
From 🇨🇦, to all of our friends and neighbours around the world, it's a BIG BEAUTIFUL DAY today thanks to the Supreme Court Ruling striking down donny's illegal tariffs.

Madge, although I'm not a big fan of Trump, I'd rather have Trump in office than any democrats we have.
At least I feel the nation has a chance , where the democrat's have turned on the laws of this nation and it's people and side with people like Mandami a socialist radical, and others like him.
I have a large family who I hope and pray get to live in America, not Babel or Sodom and Gomorrah.
 
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