Rapid eye movement sleep behaviour

Kate Ellery

Kate Ellery

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I was chatting to @Andie White on what are you doing today …….about this subject earlier today

As my hubs had sleep over tests at a city hospital , due to having these violent dreams and lashing out at me kicking / punching / in his sleep .

Altho he was recorded as having 18 episodes of leg movements ,he never had any violent lashing out dreams

It didn’t start till about maybe 8-9 years ago ….and he hasn’t had an episode for prob around 2 years or so … …( since he had the sleep study )
thank goodness ……or he would be sleeping in what we call the guest bedroom with the attached main bathroom

I can tell you it was scary being woken up by a punch in the head ..or a knee in the back

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REM Sleep Behavior Disorder: What It Is, Symptoms & Treatment

REM sleep behavior disorder (RBD) is a condition in which you physically and/or vocally act out your dreams while in the rapid eye movement (REM) stage of sleep.
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My husband doesn't act out dreams, but he occasionally has restless leg syndrome. It never bothered me but it does keep him awake when it happens. I think it has to do with his PAD and the circulation in his legs.

For the last few years, we seem to sleep all over the house. Most nights he dozes off on the sofa downstairs in the den, or in a recliner. I usually sleep in a spare bedroom where we have a power adjustable bed. We got that bed when I was having cancer treatment since it helped when I was weak and after surgery. So unless we have guests in the house, we don't even sleep in our actual bedroom anymore.
 
Beth Gallagher said:
My husband doesn't act out dreams, but he occasionally has restless leg syndrome. It never bothered me but it does keep him awake when it happens. I think it has to do with his PAD and the circulation in his legs.
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I had that while I was taking statins. It didn't start right away, but after I had been taking them for a few months, restless leg syndrome, muscle spasms, and cramping became unbearable.
 
Several years ago I had restless legs and once I got off any med for nerve disorders, and increased vit D3 and E, I rarely have it. All I have now is a singular jerk now and then, which isn't any problem. I never had RBD to my knowledge. I had 3 sleep studies several years ago.

The first study they found nothing. Everything looked normal. Then they wanted to do an other study. Then they found a slight problem. They put me on a C PAP and the third study showed it wasn't doing me any good and my problem was worse. I was put on a Bi PAP that messed up my breathing, so I tossed it in the garbage and haven't had a sleep study since. I started sleeping better than ever before.

The only violence I have had in my sleep was when I had two cats that would sleep together on my feet, but only after I was asleep. I would kick them off rather violently. They were never hurt, nor did they change their behavior. Since they died from very old age, my legs have made peace with the covers.
 
I have never experienced RBD or known anyone who was diagnosed with it. I have some restless leg syndrome, but have found that a lot of magnesium and stretching on the stairs seems to help or eliminate it. It was a trick taught to me at PT for back pain. The stretching also keeps the back pain somewhat under control.
 
I put hubs on 2 magnesium tablets a week and his legs are not as bad as they were
These are Aussie made
@Don Alaska
Caruso’s one-a-day super magnesium, has 6 different types of magnesium. It helps relieve mild muscle spasms, ( copied this )

they help me with BP I take one or 2 a week ….. if I’m getting any spikes in BP ….I take them for a week

He’s got back issues and had his lower back fused prob close on 28 years ago ….he had it operated on from his font and back areas I wonder if that’s caused the leg quivering cause he’s had it a long time

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Beth Gallagher said:
My husband doesn't act out dreams, but he occasionally has restless leg syndrome. It never bothered me but it does keep him awake when it happens. I think it has to do with his PAD and the circulation in his legs.

For the last few years, we seem to sleep all over the house. Most nights he dozes off on the sofa downstairs in the den, or in a recliner. I usually sleep in a spare bedroom where we have a power adjustable bed. We got that bed when I was having cancer treatment since it helped when I was weak and after surgery. So unless we have guests in the house, we don't even sleep in our actual bedroom anymore.
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Hubby has stayed in our bed. But over the years, I sleep around. Not quite as fun as it sounds. I wake from pain so I switch positions with effort or go from couch to recliner. Middle daughter probably tells people I sleep around too. I kept calling our male barn cat a she. So, Eventually she exclaimed to friends I have sexual problems. :rolleyes:
I think everyone needs magnesium supplementation. For dosage Take it until your bm's are loose and then back off till they are not.
 
Judging the magnesium dosage by the bowels is something a cardiologist said here. I think taking enough that all symptoms disappear is enough for me. My wife has trouble staying in bed too. She usually moves to her recliner in the den and turns on some old tv show. She has shoulder aches and sometime her hip joints bother her apparently from sciatica.
 
Mary Stetler said:
Hubby has stayed in our bed. But over the years, I sleep around. Not quite as fun as it sounds. I wake from pain so I switch positions with effort or go from couch to recliner. Middle daughter probably tells people I sleep around too. I kept calling our male barn cat a she. So, Eventually she exclaimed to friends I have sexual problems. :rolleyes:
I think everyone needs magnesium supplementation. For dosage Take it until your bm's are loose and then back off till they are not.
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I read an article about Epsom Salts, that Jennifer Lopez fixes a glass of e.s. in the am then sip's on it throughout the day.
 
Ever since my CHF in 2017 I seem to like recliner sleeping. For various reasons I am still sleeping in the recliner off and on.
Even with nose strips Mark snores, not bad but enough to bug me. The @#$~@!$R dod sleeps on top of bed down by my feet? Um why not his ? Restless leg, several bathroom trips a night... I just do better in recliner. Some people are afraid to admit they do not always share the bed with spouse. At our ages I can understand why so many of us do not. In fact I read recently that even younger people are sleeping separate. In many ways it can keep peace among the spouses if everybody is sleeping better. ;)
 
I’d like to know why people tend to wake up at exactly 2 am ….I'm a reasonably good sleeper mostly sleep all night if hubs isn’t acting like a kangaroo and jumping around …but if I do have a restless night here and there it’s always 2 am I wake up

We used to listen to a talk back radio host while travling home from a midweek nighttime .dance that was in air from 6 pm to midnight
and he’d get heaps of callers phoning in to say they go to bed at 9 pm ..awake again at exactly at 2 am …
 
Forgot about my post on this.Reading up on this and it definitely makes a difference. I have been trying to sleep in the bed more,but after last night of forcing myself to stay in the bed ..no more. if I am in the bed and get up to go to bathroom ,around midnight, I often am hurting then.Going to recliner and finishing sleep there, seems to help me all over.I just read that how and why I feel better doing that. MArk and I were just discussing it, and told him I try and stay in thee for his benefit,as he is always reaching out to see if I am there, But he said , I should not worry about that and just sleep in recliner if it helps. He says he can not sleep in recliner except for daily nap. He has a lift chair that he really did not need but uses it. Mine is not but is electric .It also has a built in lumbar position and it does help. As usual ,a few so called con reasons not to sleep in recliner, but am going to continue to do it anyway.Whew, it might not cure me but it sure does help.
We have a Ghost mattress 8 years old. Have never like it, but don't want spend more money on mattress right now at least.
 
The Other Half has "night terrors". He moans and shouts and thrashes. I can usually stop them right at the onset but if I'm not in the room, he can get loud before I can get there.

I have no idea how he gets himself out of them when I'm out of town. I guess they have to run their course and he has to wake up on his own.

It's hard when I've just got to sleep and one happens. He goes back to sleep immediately and I'm laying there, hyped up and heart pounding. Sometimes that's it for sleep for the rest of the night.

I was just diagnosed with severe obstructive sleep apnea and prescribed a CPAP. I had one years ago and just couldn't use it. I tried and tried but no go.

I might try it in the fall when things calm down and all the family drama slows down and I don't have to go out of town as much. Maybe, maybe not.
 
You’d be better off getting yourself a Apple Watch , it’s has several Heath apps including your oxygen levels
but of course you need a Apple phone to store all your apps , cause the watch is to small
They are worth it to keep a good eye on your health @Mary Robi

You don’t have to buy new , I believe @Yvonne Smith
has picked up really good / new condition refurbished watches and phones

I’ve been burning the candle at both ends lately and my BPs up a bit so my watch is keeping track of that as well,

I’m very sceptical about those breathing machine salespeople …. we’ve got a couple of people in our dancing group who've used them
but their breathing / oxygen levels got worse using them …..so they were only sleeping and hour or two each night ( they are still dancing but no longer use the machines )

Of course I’m not a doctor to,give advice …..I can only relate to others experience

My hubbies night terrors have stopped ….not had any for a couple of years since I put him on a magnesium supplements

These are Aussie made and good, not cheap but our health is worth spending the $$$ I only buy them when they are on 1/2 price specials
Allot of the cheaper brands require you to take them 2-3 times a day …. this brand is 6 types in one tablet ..once a day
I take a couple a week …as hubs dose as well
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Mary Robi said:
The Other Half has "night terrors". He moans and shouts and thrashes. I can usually stop them right at the onset but if I'm not in the room, he can get loud before I can get there.

I have no idea how he gets himself out of them when I'm out of town. I guess they have to run their course and he has to wake up on his own.

It's hard when I've just got to sleep and one happens. He goes back to sleep immediately and I'm laying there, hyped up and heart pounding. Sometimes that's it for sleep for the rest of the night.

I was just diagnosed with severe obstructive sleep apnea and prescribed a CPAP. I had one years ago and just couldn't use it. I tried and tried but no go.

I might try it in the fall when things calm down and all the family drama slows down and I don't have to go out of town as much. Maybe, maybe not.
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Mary, I really haven't researched this as yet, for I don't have the sleep apnea problem, but I just read an article (very brief) in one of my Johns Hopkins monthly reports, and it seems there is a real improvement over the old CPAP apparatus out now. It appears it is less cumbersome, easily tolerated, and works very well. You might want to explore new devices. Just a suggestion.
 
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