Probiotic foods like kombucha

Krystal Shay said:
I have done that too. I like thick yogurt. I have also made my own greek yogurt the old fashion way. I am lazy now though, :p even though it isn't hard to do.
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I've never made yogurt, but should learn how. I get kidney stones and should have 3 servings of dairy per day to remediate any oxalate in my system. I doubt that I get much more than 1 serving. I hate milk. I always have, even as a kid. I am weaned. There is no reason for me to consume milk. Anyway...

The calcium in my glass of kefir counts for a little more than a single serving of (*shudders*) cow juice.
 
John Brunner said:
I've never made yogurt, but should learn how. I get kidney stones and should have 3 servings of dairy per day to remediate any oxalate in my system. I doubt that I get much more than 1 serving. I hate milk. I always have, even as a kid. I am weaned. There is no reason for me to consume milk. Anyway...

The calcium in my glass of kefir counts for a little more than a single serving of (*shudders*) cow juice.
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Ouch! Kidney stones are no laughing matter! I hate white milk too! I don't drink it at all, unless chocolate can be added to it. :D I only use milk in cooking and baking.
 
Krystal Shay said:
Ouch! Kidney stones are no laughing matter! I hate white milk too! I don't drink it at all, unless chocolate can be added to it. :D I only use milk in cooking and baking.
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And there's the problem. Chocolate contains oxalate, so that option's off the table. And the only form of calcium that remediates oxalate is dairy. Calcium supplements make things worse.

[insert whining emoji here]
 
John Brunner said:
And there's the problem. Chocolate contains oxalate, so that option's off the table. And the only form of calcium that remediates oxalate is dairy. Calcium supplements make things worse.

[insert whining emoji here]
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I have heard that calcium supplements can cause kidney stones. At one time, I had a kidney stone, and that was enough!! I ended up in the ER at 3 in the morning. I was taking calcuim supplements regularly at that time, and I think that was the cause of it.
 
John Brunner said:
I've made Greek yogurt by putting plain yogurt in a cheesecloth bag and letting the whey drain overnight, to use the Greek yogurt as an ingredient in other dishes. "Greek-style" yogurt is nothing more than regular yogurt with thickeners. Regular yogurt is about 25% by whey, which is why real Greek yogurt is more expensive...you lose 1/4 of the yogurt through the draining process.

If what I've read is accurate, Greek yogurt and regular yogurt each have their respective qualities:
-Real Greek yogurt is more protein-dense
-Regular yogurt is cancer-fighting because of the properties of the whey
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I’ve strained milk kefir and used it as a spread on dry biscuits …..or mixed in …a little sweet chilly sauce it makes a nice dip / spread

When I used to make my own yoghurt I’d also strain that so it wasn’t watery ..I’ve got a strainer that’s designed for straining those types of foods @John Brunner …its messy and time consuming washing cheese cloth after using

Mine is like this but white ….heaps of diffrent ones on Amazon

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@Kate Ellery I had to smile at your washing cheesecloth. I've had to pinch pennies the majority of my adult life, but never washed cheesecloth to reuse it. That being said, I've rarely used it, and when I have used it the application (bouquet garni) has not lent itself to reuse. I guess if I constantly used it for something clean like straining yogurt, I might have.

As an aside, I discovered that the cheesecloth sold in the hobby section of the store is close to 50% of the cost of differently packaged cheesecloth sold in the kitchenware section.
 
John Brunner said:
@Kate Ellery I had to smile at your washing cheesecloth. I've had to pinch pennies the majority of my adult life, but never washed cheesecloth to reuse it. That being said, I've rarely used it, and when I have used it the application (bouquet garni) has not lent itself to reuse. I guess if I constantly used it for something clean like straining yogurt, I might have.

As an aside, I discovered that the cheesecloth sold in the hobby section of the store is close to 50% of the cost of differently packaged cheesecloth sold in the kitchenware section.
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Starts at $7 mtr for cheesecloth here at Spotlight , which is usually the cheapest shop to buy fabrics ( we used to have an opposition called Lincraft ) that sadly fell … over recently) ….now Spotlight have the upper hand

Some here @John Brunner I grew up and had to watch each and every penny …. not so much these days ….but it’s ingrained in me to still watch out for specials at the supermarket/ stock up
 
Kate Ellery said:
Starts at $7 mtr for cheesecloth here at Spotlight , which is usually the cheapest shop to buy fabrics ( we used to have an opposition called Lincraft ) that sadly fell … over recently) ….now Spotlight have the upper hand

Some here @John Brunner I grew up and had to watch each and every penny …. not so much these days ….but it’s ingrained in me to still watch out for specials at the supermarket/ stock up
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Yeh, it seems that all the fabric stores here are gone, too. I do not sew, but I've been there for some hobby and decorating stuff. Hobby stores are dying as well.

Cheesecloth at Walmart runs from $1.25 per square yard to $2.25 per square yard, depending on whether you're making Halloween ghosts or straining yogurt ;).
 
I use Greek yogurt (whole milk) in my seed and grain cereal when I eat it just to get the probiotics and to ease the sweetness as it is sweetened with honey. I have made L. reuteri yogurt a few times in a dehydrator, but haven't done it in a while. I hope to give it a go gain soon. I once had a friend who was a microbiologist, and he "bred" his own yogurt by buying different brands of commercial live yogurt, culturing them, making yogurt one culture at a time, and making his own blend of yogurt. Not for everyone (or anyone) but he made yogurt specific to his taste. A strange dude, but interesting :)

When we used to make cheese, we found there were different types of cheesecloth. The stuff sold in general stores was different then from what we bought for making cheese. It was also much more expensive, so if it were to be used to strain stuff, I can understand washing it for reuse.
 
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