Moose Encounter

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  1. Faye Fox

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    Well, Don, you are lucky! He certainly doesn't profile out as Bullwinkle. Maybe Bulltinkle depending if a change of undies was necessary after your encounter.
     
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    I was reading a story elsewhere of a moose that attacked (and badly injured) a bow hunter, and the authorities decided to not euthanize the critter for being true to its nature...more or less a case of justified self defense. So in that thread, someone posted this 100 year old article, which I found to be fascinating...

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    Kalispell, Montana, July 16, 1923 –

    Mute evidence of a tragedy of the woods was discovered a few days ago by Joe McKelvey, park ranger, in the vicinity of Many Glaciers chalet, Glacier National Park.

    In a thicket about three miles north, Mr. McKelvey ran across the skeleton of a moose, and upon closer investigation, found parts of a human skeleton, which clearly showed that some hunter years ago had shot and wounded a moose and then been killed by the animal. Close by was found a Springfield 45-70 rifle with the breech open, and a shell which had stuck told how the hunter had lost his life. He had evidently fought to a finish for a broken knife (that) was found on the ground.

    Old-timers in the vicinity of the park are of the opinion the skeleton is that of a French-Canadian trapper who disappeared about 18 years ago, but none remember his name. There is no doubt that the man lost his life a long time ago, for the bones are bleached and the rubber shoes which the hunter was wearing are badly weather-worn.

    Mr. McKelvey got an excellent photograph of this tragedy of the hills. It shows the two skeletons where the combatants fell after their fight, together with the rifle and other equipment of the hunter.
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  3. Don Alaska

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    A moose decided to visit a hospital waiting room in Anchorage and sample the plants. LInk

    There have been many reports of young moose dying from the cold snowy winter lately. A shame to make this this far, then just run out of life. A cow moose was on a bike trail as my wife returned from church today protecting a calf that had already died.
     
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    Are those deaths due to starvation? What makes this year different?
     
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    Yeah, it seems to be starvation, largely due to the heavy snow earlier than usual. That is what makes it so tragic. They are so close to spring breakup. Like I said in another post, the willows are starting to bloom, which means sap is flowing some. I guess the little guys that have struggled so much to get through the winter no longer have the strength to get to the few trees available.
     
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    I'm not an expert on bears, but someone from the Maine Department of Inland Fisheries and Wildlife told me once that early spring is when most bear deaths occur, outside of hunting season, as they are coming out of hibernation at a time when food is not readily available, given that the vegetation is not yet producing fruit and insects are not as active as they will later be. With minimal activity during hibernation, they're not burning a lot of calories but when they are out in the spring, they are.
     
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    That is why we have to take down our bird feeders around the first of April, as they draw hungry bears into your vicinity. Garbage can also do this. Keep a gun handy, as a bear just out of hibernation is mighty tasty!
     
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    What are your laws for shooting bear?
     
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  9. Don Alaska

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    Black bear is allowed most of the time here if it is endangering life or property. Brown bear rules are much stricter, but they don't taste good EXCEPT when just out of the winter sleep, so I am not interested in shooting one of those. I actually haven't checked the rules recently, but black bears are such a nuisance here and are so prolific that I am not concerned.
     
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    Was that Obvious or Oblivious?
     
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    I've had some bear encounters - two in the Appalachians and one in Oregon. I didn't much like the experiences and had to remind myself that I was the one intruding on their territory.
     
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    A man died in a moose attack in Homer (Alaska) Sunday, May 19 2024, Alaska State Troopers said.

    https://www.adn.com/alaska-news/wildlife/2024/05/19/man-dies-in-homer-moose-attack-troopers-report/

    Seventy year old Dale Chorman of Homer was out with a friend and decided to take pics of 2 newborn moose calves. Mom strenuously objected. Apparently Dale's friend was faster than Dale and did not witness the attack, so it's unclear if Dale got the crap kicked out of him or if Dale got the crap stomped out of him. Only the moose knows for sure.
     
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  13. Don Alaska

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    I hadn't heard that since I was incommunicado for a day or so. Moose kill more Alaskans than bears and most Alaskans, especially older ones, know that and are very cautious around them. I have told the story about the person I knew who moved here from Connecticut who thought moose were cute...until she was cornered by a cow when the person got between the mom and her calf. There was also the person who moved here from Florida and thought feeding moose was a nifty thing to do until a moose followed him into his trailer looking for more food and exited through the wall of the trailer. People who have lived here a while know this. I couldn't find how long the dead man had lived here, but Homer is a very liberal town, so he may just have been an animal lover as the article suggested.
     
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    Looks like Moose can be dangerous.
     
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    And that's saying something, given the population of brow bear you all got. The comments in threads from those who grew up around this stuff are fascinating. Some number of genuinely innocent wrong place/wrong time fatalities. One guy spoke of fly fishing and a baby moose appeared just downstream of him, while mama was just upstream, and he was caught in the middle through no fault of his own. He said he could have reached out with his rod and touched them, and was glad they were in a good mood that morning.
     
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