Joyful With Cancer In Mexico, Over A Century Of Success. No Scaredy Tactics

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  1. Beth Gallagher

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    I agree, and I can guarantee that no one is "joyful" when they hear a cancer diagnosis. This crap needs to be in the Conspiracies and Paranormal Section with all the other absurdities.
     
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    Here's a link to life expectancy data in the US from 1900 thru 1998. Contrary to the OP's claim, the data suggests that we all live longer now than we did prior to 1950. And the claim that doctors were curing cancer prior to 1950 is just sad.

    https://u.demog.berkeley.edu/~andrew/1918/figure2.html

    Again, I think it is criminal to give sick people false hope about their conditions. Only a mentally sick person would do so, or a immoral con man.
     
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    The joy is in knowing what is able to be done, simply, with no harm at all.
    The sorrow is the massive coverup making it illegal for ama usa doctors to tell the truth.
     
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    Just more meaningless word salad. Face it, you got nothing to substantiate your irreal claims or to refute the actual data.
     
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    It may well be true that there wasn't as much cancer fifty or a hundred years ago as there is now, and there are probably a lot of good reasons for that, but I wouldn't jump to the conclusion that it was being cured at higher rates then, as now.
     
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    Anyone who has looked for what I post about has found it, although it was and is easier when people are legally allowed to.

    The actual data ? Remember the old phrase "history is re-written by the victor" ? Thus what you consider facts was disproven long ago. (apparently because of where you put your trust)
     
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    Where the cures are used, the cure rate is higher no matter what country or time frame.

    Where posins/ toxins (like toxic vax) are used, the cure rate is lower, no matter where or when it is used.

    Many people have shown that the usa treats the symptoms, not the causes of disease.

    (legally, that is).

    Many people realize that IF and WHEN the CAUSE is found, and the cause is remedied, the disease goes away. It really, really, really IS THAT SIMPLE.
     
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    To quote you, ARE YOU LIVING IN A CAVE?
    In one post you make a statement that people need to do the research and then you come up with some rhetoric that can get people killed because it is sans research.
    Your claim that the law somehow makes it illegal for AMA members to tell the truth is totally bogus and without research.
    Your claim that holistic healing and such is an absolute panacea for cancer is bogus and without the smallest inclination to do due diligence to the topic material.

    Your continual banging away the at medical field as a whole is preposterous.
    Yes, there are many things wrong with it but that doesn’t mean that all of it is some conspiracy to keep you under the knife and on drugs the rest of your life.
    If my appendix were about to rupture I want an experienced physician with a knife, not some mumbo jumbo spreading individual with some smoke and rattles.
    That said, with the Covid thing we smelled a rat and we went about our daily lives legally doing as much as we could to sustain normalcy.

    It’s a matter of picking your battles or rather, the treatment for the wounds from those battles. You have choices and every one of those choices has a risk attached to it.
    “Doing no harm” doesn’t mean that it isn’t going to hurt to be cured of a disease. Sometimes doing no harm simply means to do less harm than the prevailing medical problem.
    Example: With some cancers, one can fast of conventional breakfast foods and all sweets and eat bunches of red grapes in the morning. An enzyme in red grapes does indeed kill some cancer cells and in some cases, remove them entirely ergo….a cure for “some” types of cancer. Does the treatment do harm?
    YES! For one, Diarrhea is a side effect and causes dehydration which can indeed not only hurt an individual but kill that person if other checks aren’t made.

    Jeff, my main concern is that your initial premise is indeed misleading and no matter how much you kick and scream, my feeling is that if you are indeed an intelligent person you must know that to be true.
     
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    Or, if they do the research, they find the known and proven cures, (which , btw, have been known a lot longer than toxic drugs were (and are) used)
    and it cures them, or at least has a chance to. Their immune system and overall is at least improved instead of destroyed by allopathic drugs and methods.
    (First of all, do not harm. This used to be the medical credo. It changed to first of all do harm when drug makers got control.)

    And, if they go the toxin route, (common usa protocol),
    it costs them more and they often get sicker and more frequently are harmed than if they do what is right.
     
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    THey published their so-called conspiracy many times. They did not call it a conspiracy though, so why do you ?
     
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    If someone is intelligent enough to find out the grape cure, they know enough to drink water.
    More people get diarrhea and dehydration from allopathic (toxic) methods and drugs, don't you know ?
     
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    Look it up.
    See if licensed ama doctors are allowed to tell the truth about the known and proven cancer cures used before 1950? (even, for instance, the one you brought up(I think) - the grape cure, proven btw over a century ago and published often)

    When I asked them IN PERSON if they would tell about the simple inexpensive cures known and proven over decades,
    every one of them (pharmacists or doctors) said "No".
    When I asked them IN PERSON "why?", they said they cannot patent it.

    The law , apparently, says that anything not approved by the drug makers cannot be used.

    Someone else on the forum pointed out dramatically I might say, that ALL of the cancer clinics/hospitals/ doctors , ALL of them that they looked into,
    USE IDENTICAL PROTOCOL - not changes from one to another place that they found.

    If they go to Mexico, Canada, or a Naturopathic Healer, there they would have found DIFFERENT protocol , proven for decades to work (unless they go to one of the places opened more for money - THUS the need to VERIFY what is being done , that it has been done for decades or even for centurie, and VERIFY the success rate whenever possible.)
    Also,
    compare the toxicity of grapes and grape juice,
    with the toxicity of rat poison and anti-freeze (i.e. chemo, etc) .

    Is there really a comparison necessary ?
     
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    {sigh} just more word salad - nothing to back up your outrages lies. No data, no valid studies, nothing, nada, zip.
     
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    Can you read ? (1) "Back to Eden" by Jethro Kloss published last century.
    (2) "Nutrition the Cancer Answer" with biliography published last century.
    (3) "Let's Eat Right to Keep Fit" one of the earliest publications I read when the poor diet of the usa was being revealed (before 1960?) .
    (4) "God's Key to Health and Happiness" by Pastor Josephson about the proven cure for cancer that cured him AFTER the doctors gave up on him. He was diagnosed by several LICENSED AMA DOCTORS when he was about 20 years old,
    and told to get his papers in order, he has less than six months left to live, has terminal cancer (the LICENSED DRs all said, ) and there is nothing they can do for him.
    He was cured, and lived sixty more years healthy. This is the experience with many people who do what is right and good.
    Elmer Elvin Josephson (1883 - 1963)

    There are literally thousands of books, millions of recovered from cancer, if only you look.
    Denial is the first step of not finding the truth, ever.
     
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    Because YOU wouldn’t believe the truth if it smacked you on the backside ergo the only thing you DO believe is it is a conspiracy.

    Look, have it your own way Jeff. I’ll do my research and I guarantee it will be complete and you do your link chasing as you always do just to prove the medical world is out to get us.

    We are indeed a cash cow for the pharm industry just as folks running to Mexico are the cash cows of the holders of all the ancient secrets. It’s all about money and greed but to an end, people have to be responsible for their own health and do the right thing or as right as they can be at the time.

    There is always going to be good and bad on both sides of the aisle but to proclaim that one is the ultimate panacea of all ills is ridiculous.

    Do note: Jesus had a physician with Him did He not? Did Luke heal the lady with the bleeding issue? Nope. Not one doctor of old could cure her.
    Was Luke able to heal Leprosy with his ancient secrets? Nope, but our doctors do now.
     
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