How susceptible are we to psy-ops?

Ken Anderson

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This is not partisan in any way, but a short but interesting introduction to psy-ops, which is something we're subjected to constantly, in the news we watch, the podcasts we follow, and advertising. Both sides do it, drug companies do it, and the media presents it daily. Although governments and political agendas use it, it's not especially political. If you watch it, I think you'll appreciate it, and it's only about 10 minutes long.
 
I only listened to the first 31 seconds so I could get the gist of the video.

It is inherent in me to not be a follower or to believe everything I see or read. When I see ads for products on TV by famous people, my first thought is “you must need money.”

One of my top three mottos has always been “you don’t sign my paycheck”, whomever “you” happened to be at that moment.

Sadly, I do know people who worry so much what others think, they will buy into anything and eventually morph into someone not capable of making decisions for themselves.
 
Commercial advertising is perhaps the most benign form because, while it is still amazingly effective, more so than most of us would like to believe, it's less concealed. We expect it, or should expect it, when we see an advertisement. However, if commercial advertising is effective, as it must be, given corporate advertising budgets, how much more effective is it when it is presented as news, education, entertainment, or public health bulletins?
 
@Ken Anderson here’s a new ad that dropped my jaw when I saw it on TV.

Martha baby has never been fat nor broke, yet here she is advertising a GLP1 product.


Except for the fact that she has horses and honestly can ride, I stopped liking her eons ago, when she made a comment about “—stepping over her mother if it meant success—“ or something to that effect.

I notice they keep her 85 year old self a good distance from the camera and use special lighting. But I would like to know who her plastic surgeon is, in case I ever hit the more money than brains lottery, lollol

Of all the things she could advertise, why advertise a product for obesity as the ad clearly states…
 
Using psychology works. You can persuade most people to do what you want them to do by using psychology. I have done that a few times over the years.

My daughter was 15, almost 16 years old when she fell in "love" with a 17 year old high school dropout. She wanted to marry him right then. She was at that obstinate teenage when you couldn't reason with her. I knew that if I tried to talk her out of it by telling her all the reasons that was not a good idea, she would become more determined. So, I told her to just wait until she graduated, and we would give them biggest wedding that anybody in our county had ever had.

Reverse psychology.................

In the meantime, I started commenting on his good points, like he might be able to find a job that didn't require a diploma. The acne might eventually go away and not leave too many scars. She broke up with him a few months later.
 
@Shirely Martin...way to go girl. I to used that a time or two, My youngest decide to bleach her hair blonde and put on a spaghetti strapped black tight fitting short dress with heels. She looked like a cheap hooker on Second Ave. I let her go to some party with friends,around nine o'clock that night, she called whispering into the phone..mama can you come get me,? Take me to the store and help me color my hair? Um yes dear, I can do that. Her friends let her know she did not look attractive like that. Problem was solved and I was not the mea
 
Things like this are the reason I refuse to fly.

That jet is completely disintegrated, nothing left. God have mercy on their souls...

I don't understand how a compromised or crashing jet can hit the ground at that speed. It looks like it was flown into the ground at full speed? Not likely the flight data recorder survived that impact.
 
Things like this are the reason I refuse to fly.

That jet is completely disintegrated, nothing left. God have mercy on their souls...

I don't understand how a compromised or crashing jet can hit the ground at that speed. It looks like it was flown into the ground at full speed? Not likely the flight data recorder survived that impact.


They have released the final cockpit radio transmission audio; it is terrifying. Apparently the pilot or co-pilot was a young woman.



ETA--apparently the co-pilot has been identified.
"The co-pilot of the Bombardier Learjet 60 (registration N722BD) that crashed in Palm Beach County, Florida, on November 1, 2026, has been identified as 20-year-old Nathalia Gadelha Figueiras, confirmed by her family.

Official authorities have not yet formally released or confirmed the full roster or the name of the primary pilot in command, though social media speculation and preliminary reports have linked other names that remain under official review by the NTSB and FAA."
 
@Ken Anderson here’s a new ad that dropped my jaw when I saw it on TV.

Martha baby has never been fat nor broke, yet here she is advertising a GLP1 product.


Except for the fact that she has horses and honestly can ride, I stopped liking her eons ago, when she made a comment about “—stepping over her mother if it meant success—“ or something to that effect.

I notice they keep her 85 year old self a good distance from the camera and use special lighting. But I would like to know who her plastic surgeon is, in case I ever hit the more money than brains lottery, lollol

Of all the things she could advertise, why advertise a product for obesity as the ad clearly states…
I used to have tea every Wednesday with her mother at a mutual friends house. I loved her mom, she was nothing like her daughter.
 
I used to have tea every Wednesday with her mother at a mutual friends house. I loved her mom, she was nothing like her daughter.

Thank you for saying that. I always wondered.

I may have already said this, but I can remember many many years ago, she made the comment on TV that she would “— step over her mom—-“ to get what she wanted. Not an exact quote but I never forgot her general idea.

Then she got in trouble with stock and did jail time.

Then I sort of forgave her, her sins, because she truly can ride a horse down an embankment and across a creek.

Now she’s in hot water again for this year’s Halloween costume, dressed as a home,ess person. She professes she meant no harm to anyone. Right. One thing Martha Stuart is not is stupid. Her arrogant self knew full well what she was doing.

 
Psychological operations (PSYOPs or psy-ops), more recently known as Military Information Support Operations (MISO) by the U.S. military, are planned efforts to influence the perceptions, emotions, attitudes, and behavior of target audiences in support of strategic objectives.

Psy-ops seek to answer a simple question: "How can information be used to encourage people to think, feel, or act in ways that advance a desired outcome?"

The techniques may include persuasion, messaging, symbolism, selective presentation of information, appeals to fear or hope, repetition, social pressure, and the use of trusted messengers.

Modern PSYOP doctrine emerged in an organized form during the 20th century, but there were several much earlier examples.

Historical examples might include Sun Tzu's emphasis on winning without fighting, the Roman use of public spectacles and messaging, propaganda campaigns during the Napoleonic Wars, and leaflets and information campaigns during World War I.

These earlier efforts differed from modern PSYOPs in that they were more often improvised rather than systematic.

Psychological warfare became more formalized during World War II, when governments used radio broadcasts, printed leaflets, rumors, and deception campaigns, news management, strategic messaging, and repetition (loose lips sink ships).

Examples include Allied broadcasts into Nazi-controlled territories, German propaganda directed at Allied troops, and efforts to lower enemy morale and to encourage surrender.

Military planners increasingly viewed information as another battlefield.

The Cold War dramatically expanded psychological operations. Since direct military conflict between nuclear powers was risky, influence campaigns became extremely important.

Both the United States and the Soviet Union invested heavily in propaganda, cultural diplomacy, educational exchanges, broadcasting networks, and intelligence-driven influence campaigns.

Examples included Voice of America, Radio Free Europe, Soviet international media networks, and ideological education programs.

After writing to the Soviet embassy in high school for something I intended to use in a paper I was writing for school, I was subscribed to two monthly glossy magazines. I think they were entitled "USSR Monthly" and "The Soviet Union Today," or something of that sort, and they continued to come until I moved to California after graduating from high school.

The objective was frequently described as winning "hearts and minds," a phrase we still hear often. The target was no longer enemy soldiers but entire populations.

During the 20th century, governments, universities, and military institutions increasingly studied crowd psychology, persuasion, public opinion, advertising, behavioral conditioning, and social conformity.

Edward Bernays, often called the "father of public relations," argued that modern societies are influenced through the management of public opinion. Walter Lippmann, Kurt Lewin, and Carl Hovland were other prominent contributors.

Many of the concepts developed in advertising and public relations overlapped with methods used in strategic influence campaigns.

Techniques developed for wartime persuasion often migrated into civilian institutions.

This doesn't necessarily mean that secret military PSYOPs were being conducted against domestic populations, but neither does it necessarily mean that they weren't.

However, methods and principles of PSYOPs spread into other fields, such as public relations, political campaigning, marketing, public health communication, government information programs, and corporate communications.

The underlying principles remained similar: frame issues strategically, use trusted authorities, repeat key messages, create social norms, and shape perceptions of consensus.

Mass media became one of the most powerful tools for influencing public opinion.

Historically, governments have attempted to influence the media through press offices, public affairs offices, information campaigns, strategic briefings, access journalism, and advertising purchases.

Authoritarian governments or administrations often exert direct control over the media, although less authoritarian governments generally rely more on narrative framing, public messaging, press relations, and strategic communication.

Media organizations themselves influence perceptions through story selection, headline framing, editorial priorities, and the repetition of themes.

Education also influences values and perspectives.

Governments have long viewed schools as a means of civic education, national identity formation, historical interpretation, and cultural transmission. Examples can be seen throughout the political spectrum, such as nationalism in 19th-century Europe, communist ideological education, democratic civic instruction, and wartime patriotic curricula. We see it today in the strong leftist positions propagated by the U.S. educational system.

Whether such efforts are seen as education, socialization, indoctrination, or propaganda often depends on one's political perspective and the methods used. Critics argue that educational systems can become vehicles for ideological influence, while defenders argue that all societies require shared civic knowledge and values.

Another major area is public behavior campaigns.

Governments have routinely influenced behavior concerning smoking, seatbelt use, drunk driving, vaccinations, drug use, and energy conservation.

Common psychological techniques include social proof, appeals to fear, appeals to authority, norm-setting, and repetition.

In recent decades, governments have increasingly adopted "nudge" strategies. Examples include automatic retirement enrollment, organ donation defaults, tax compliance reminders, energy usage comparisons, and cash for clunkers.

Critics argue that nudge campaigns are subtle forms of manipulation, while supporters say they preserve freedom while improving outcomes.

Modern political campaigns use methods that use some PSYOP techniques, such as voter segmentation, personality profiling, message testing, emotional appeals, and social media targeting.

Campaigns increasingly use large datasets to identify who can be persuaded, which messages resonate, and what emotional framing is most effective. Social media has dramatically increased this capability.

Social media represents a new phase in influence operations. Social media algorithms often reward emotional content, identity-driven messaging, fear-based narratives, and confirmation bias.

Government agencies, corporations, activists, political organizations, and foreign actors all compete within this system. Unlike traditional PSYOPs, influence now often occurs through decentralized networks rather than a single centralized authority.

Questions include:
  • Where does persuasion become manipulation?
  • Should governments influence public opinion?
  • If so, under what conditions?
  • How transparent should influence efforts be?
  • Is a beneficial outcome sufficient justification?
  • Who determines what a beneficial outcome is?
  • Who determines what information is emphasized or suppressed?
 
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When you find yourself upset about something today that you weren't concerned about last week, this is often not so much that you have received new information, but that you have become wrapped up in a PSYOP. You're upset because someone wants you to be.

Ukraine was a big issue a couple of years ago, yet all we hear about now is Iran. Yet, the war in Ukraine continues, and we're still funding it. Could it be because Trump found out that he couldn't end it as he had promised to, and that the Democrats want us to continue funding Ukraine? Neither of the two major political factors in U.S. politics wants us to be thinking about Ukraine, although the destruction of Russian oil refineries probably has as much or more to do with global gasoline prices than Iran.
 
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