Apple iPads, MacBooks, and Apple Watches thread

I paid twice that much for my MacBook Pro, so I thought it looked like a pretty good price. I might get one if I find I have a few hundred dollars lying around. As for a touchscreen computer, I hope they never do because I hate them.
 
It is interesting that Apple is now trying to be more competitive and offering lower prices products, as well as the traditional ones which are higher priced.
I don’t think they have another version of Apple Watch, but they have the new SE iPhones, which are cheaper, the basic model iPads, and now a lower priced MacBook as well.

Actually, I think that this is a good idea. Apple makes awesome devices, but they are priced out of reach for a lot of people, or at least more than they are willing to spend.
With the lower priced version, which is still a high quality product, Apple will have a broader range of buyers who can afford to now buy Apple products instead of the cheaper, but lower quality, competitive devices.

I have no desire to ever have another laptop, but if I were going to have one, a MacBook Neo would suit me fine. It has the same operating system that I am used to using with my iPad, and would work well together, but would be much cheaper than buying the MacBook Air or the MacBook Pro .
 
Perhaps I should post this in a mental health thread, but I am thinking of buying a Neo. I don't need one, as, not counting old computers that are no longer updated, I already have a MacBook Pro, a Mac mini, an ASUS Windows-based laptop, a Windows-based desktop, a Raspberry Pi, an Android tablet, a Kobo and a bunch of Kindle Fires and Kindles, as well as, of course, an iPhone and an Apple Watch. I do not need a Mac Neo.
 
Perhaps I should post this in a mental health thread, but I am thinking of buying a Neo. I don't need one, as, not counting old computers that are no longer updated, I already have a MacBook Pro, a Mac mini, an ASUS Windows-based laptop, a Windows-based desktop, a Raspberry Pi, an Android tablet, a Kobo and a bunch of Kindle Fires and Kindles, as well as, of course, an iPhone and an Apple Watch. I do not need a Mac Neo.

Don't feel like the Lone Ranger. I was also considering buying the "base model" for nothing more than curiosity.
 
I hate laptops, and I have been watching all of those YT videos about the new MacBook Neo. Maybe when they get to the refurbished ones, I will get one, though I can’t imagine what I would do with it if I had it.
My name is Yvonne and I am an Apple Device Addict………
 
When I get a chance, I'll be removing the off-topic tech stuff from this thread, but in the meantime...

When I first got an iPhone, I didn't intend to use it for anything other than phone calls and texting, so I didn't want to synchronize it to my Mac computers. Later, when I did want to access stuff from time to time and wanted my Safari passwords saved, I decided to synchronize it.

Not overly familiar with the iPhone, I screwed something up and, before I knew it, all of my photos on either of my Mac devices had been duplicated on my iPhone, and my iPhone was out of space. I didn't want that. I only wanted the photos that I took on the iPhone to be on the iPhone, and I certainly didn't want my computers and my iPhone to be near-duplicate images of one another. Whenever I deleted photos from my iPhone, they would automatically reappear.

My wife helped me sort that out, although it involved hours of deleting crap I didn't need from the iPhone. Now my Safari passwords are saved when I open Safari on my iPhone, so I can access the forum, Amazon, etc.

However, I don't fully understand it, so I won't be able to help beyond saying that it can be done.

Apple support could probably help. Other options might be the official Apple Support Community, which I haven't used myself, or the MacRumors forum, which I have used. If you search, you might find that someone else has already asked the question. Otherwise, someone might get snarky, since there are always people who hang around only to insult people who don't already have all the answers, but someone else will probably come up with a solution.
Ken ….i wasn’t certain where to to post my expericence with Apple devices



We’ve had Apple devices since the first iPad Air was released in 2013 , their after sales service / help has always been 100% even if your device has ran out of warranty they will still assist you with what ever ….you've got options .. ( on apples site ) …..go to help ….

pick your device …brief description of issues/ arrange a call / chat at a time that suits you …to easy ….

And with your permission …..they can get into your device and look for issues …while you are chatting to,them ….I’ve done that once ….
I’ve only ever contacted them prob 3 times …

When I bought my iPad I’m using now …about 5 years ago , I wanted to transfer all the content from the old one …but I’d set it up encrypted ..dam …I couldn’t find my password for that setting ..,.so I contacted them and had a lady call me from Canada ….remember I’m in Aussie land , we spoke for almost 2 hours trying to get around the issue if the encryption …nah it’s impossible …so she advised me to set it up,all over again ….

then I realised I’d written the password up under ….some thing not even related to Apple ….phew …
..easy …it transferred to this device as quick as a wink ….
@Ken Anderson
 
I really hate touchscreen computers because I'd spend half my life cleaning the damned screens. As it is, I spend more time than I want to cleaning my iPhone, Kindle, and Kobo screens. Smudges on a screen bug the heck out of me. My wife has gotten used to using her touchscreens, so whenever she's on my computer, she's constantly touching the screen, and I have to tell her to keep her grubby fingers off my screen.
 
I hate touchscreens, too, and for the same reason. I use a stylus with a tablet because I can't stand a smeary screen. My husband can be eating buttered toast and playing Candy Crush on his iPad at the same time. Gah.
 
It is interesting that Apple is now trying to be more competitive and offering lower prices products, as well as the traditional ones which are higher priced.
I don’t think they have another version of Apple Watch, but they have the new SE iPhones, which are cheaper, the basic model iPads, and now a lower priced MacBook as well.

Actually, I think that this is a good idea. Apple makes awesome devices, but they are priced out of reach for a lot of people, or at least more than they are willing to spend.
With the lower priced version, which is still a high quality product, Apple will have a broader range of buyers who can afford to now buy Apple products instead of the cheaper, but lower quality, competitive devices.

I have no desire to ever have another laptop, but if I were going to have one, a MacBook Neo would suit me fine. It has the same operating system that I am used to using with my iPad, and would work well together, but would be much cheaper than buying the MacBook Air or the MacBook Pro .
I think they're going after folks who are abandoning Microsoft because of WIN11. (Some folks are moving to Linux.) It's a smart move...lower the risk of trying a foreign operating system, and once they get used to it, they'll stay. And WIN11 is so different it's equally unfamiliar. The downside is that if Apple becomes dominate, hackers may focus on it more. I've considered Ubuntu, a popular flavor of Linux. As I've said elsewhere, I always use a wireless keyboard and a monitor, so don't care what the footprint of the device is. This darned Fire tablet is killing my neck and shoulders... and my eyes.
 
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This is a pretty genius move by Apple, and they are now picking up people who are frustrated with Microsoft and the new Windows versions, now that the older one is not being supported.
They have to find a new computer. Some of those people would have gone to Chromebooks, because they are cheap and simple to use, and they just need a basic laptop and not one for more detailed use , and some would heave tried to stay with Windows and not liked it. Now, a good bunch of them will try out the cheaper MacBook Neo.

It is kind of like the grocery store at Thanksgiving. They sell the turkey to you for 49 cents a lb, barely break even on the price, but you also buy all of your other Thanksgiving dinner there while you are shopping.
These people buying the Neo will now probably get an iPhone and an Apple Watch , and maybe an iPad, or Apple TV, of all of that, once they buy the Neo and like it. So, Apple will get a whole new market from selling the cheap basic laptop.
 
This is a pretty genius move by Apple, and they are now picking up people who are frustrated with Microsoft and the new Windows versions, now that the older one is not being supported.
They have to find a new computer. Some of those people would have gone to Chromebooks, because they are cheap and simple to use, and they just need a basic laptop and not one for more detailed use , and some would heave tried to stay with Windows and not liked it. Now, a good bunch of them will try out the cheaper MacBook Neo.

It is kind of like the grocery store at Thanksgiving. They sell the turkey to you for 49 cents a lb, barely break even on the price, but you also buy all of your other Thanksgiving dinner there while you are shopping.
These people buying the Neo will now probably get an iPhone and an Apple Watch , and maybe an iPad, or Apple TV, of all of that, once they buy the Neo and like it. So, Apple will get a whole new market from selling the cheap basic laptop.
1-Does software support ever end on Apple products?
2-Apple "bought" my business in part by a generous Trade In program. I got an iPhone, a watch, and I'm on my second of each.
 
1-Does software support ever end on Apple products?
2-Apple "bought" my business in part by a generous Trade In program. I got an iPhone, a watch, and I'm on my second of each.
As far as being able to get replacements or free repairs, yes, but you can call and ask for DIY advice on Apple products anytime. I don't do that because I hate being on the telephone but my wife does often. Another good thing about Apple support is that rather than making you wait online, they will give you the option of calling you back when someone is available.
 
As far as being able to get replacements or free repairs, yes, but you can call and ask for DIY advice on Apple products anytime. I don't do that because I hate being on the telephone but my wife does often. Another good thing about Apple support is that rather than making you wait online, they will give you the option of calling you back when someone is available.
What about operating system updates? Do they ever end, meaning security patches are no longer rolled out for a legacy o/s?
 
What about operating system updates? Do they ever end, meaning security patches are no longer rolled out for a legacy o/s?
After a time, usually 10-11 years, you will find that your computer, albeit in perfect working order, will not support a new major version, and your computer will become obsolete. However, I sold an obsolete MacBook for $400 because, for things like accessing webpages, email, social media, and the stuff that most people do with their computers, it still works. In my experience, using Macs since 2008, and old Mac runs just as fast as it did when it was new. I am assuming that security patches might be available but since I like upgrading to new OS versions, I dump my computers when they are obsolete. After a decade, I'm ready for a new computer, anyhow. There is also the fact that there aren't as many viruses targeting the macOS as Windows.
 
I have an original iPad that still works, though it has been many years since the iOS updated. I think it's version 8 or something but I haven't looked at it in a while. I keep it on my stationary bike in the "exercise room" so it basically catches dust but I can access all of my Kindle media on it.

I also have a 2013 Macbook that no longer gets iOS updates. I think it may be on Monterrey or something but again, I haven't used it in a while.
 
I have used iMacs, a MacBook, a MacBook Pro, and a Mac mini, and I can't say that any one of them was noticeably more powerful than any other, at least not for anything that I do on a computer, and during much of that time, I was building websites, running SEO programs, and doing more than surfing the web, My wife has a Mac Air, and she says that works for her as well as her iMac. I have not yet decided whether or not to buy a Mac Neo, given that I don't need one, but I have every reason to expect that it would work as well as any other Mac I have had. I contrast this with my experiences with Windows-based machines, where the lesser expensive machines were slower than rat crap.
 
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I have used iMacs, a MacBook, a MacBook Pro, and a Mac mini, and I can't say that any one of them was noticeably more powerful than any other, at least not for anything that I do on a computer, and during much of that time, I was building websites, running SEO programs, and doing more than surfing the web, My wife has a Mac Air, and she says that works for her as well as her iMac. I have not yet decided whether or not to buy a Mac Neo, given that I don't need one, but I have every reason to expect that it would work as well as any other Mac I have had. I contrast this with my experiences with Windows-based machines, where the lesser expensive machines were slower than rat crap.

I used to do some pretty complex inventory forecasting macros on huge data tables back in the days of 128k RAM and hard drives measured in MB. The last line of all my macros was to make the machine *Beep* three times when done, because my macros took over 10 minutes to finish and tied up the machine.
 
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@Yvonne Smith , Not an Apple brand but I thought this might be a good place to put it. Microsoft is going to stop supporting older Kindle Fires on May 30. Didn't you say one time that you had a Kindle Fire? I think they will stop supporting the ones made in 2011 & 2012. People will still be able to read books that they have on them but not be able to load any more.
 
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