A new something all the time

A couple of years ago, I learned I needed to find another way to express my frustration.
I was having a bad day, arguing with utility companies about fraudulent charges & my contractor was trying to take shortcuts & overcharge on a home-repair job.
After taking my insulin, I threw the syringe at the wall as hard as I could - along with several four-letter words. I chuckled when it stuck into the wall. But the next day when I reached into the top of a kitchen cabinet to get a dish, I had the worst stabbing pain in my shoulder. I couldn't lift my arm above my shoulder & it was difficult to shower or shampoo. I must have damaged the rotator cuff. Luckily it was OK without treatment, but it took 4 months to heal. So.....age actually does change things. :giggle:
 
Decided to put my visit to the rheumatologist yesterday here.
Short version- Thinks my muscle pain, is caused by the Lipitor.
I tried to tell other doctors that before, but it never really mattered to them .
I have been on Lipitor for years , because of all the things it suppresses I have.So for 2 weeks no Lipitor.
He also is did a thyroid, and muscle blood test, results to follow later.
If I improve it is up to me to take again. Should I take it again will cut back to 10 mg vs 20 mg. Or do every other day.
If not better, want to put me on another drug, which also has side effects- to which he felt the need to read to me,
I will not be taking another drug!
He read me to and showed the results of the blood work my GP used to have put me on that ^$^&%& steroid pack, almost killed:mad: me! Guess what? Yes some inflammation, but nothing worth putting me on that. So I feel I was poisoned almost.
Yes it got rid of the muscle pain, but all the side effects hitting me at once was too much.
 
Hedi Mitchell said:
Decided to put my visit to the rheumatologist yesterday here.
Short version- Thinks my muscle pain, is caused by the Lipitor.
I tried to tell other doctors that before, but it never really mattered to them .
I have been on Lipitor for years , because of all the things it suppresses I have.So for 2 weeks no Lipitor.
Yes it got rid of the muscle pain, but all the side effects hitting me at once was too much.
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Cholesterol pills can cause muscle pain. My husband has tried every brand and then some off and on over 30 years. The side effects were too much for him. He will not take any cholesterol pills, yet his doctor is still pushing him to take them! Now his doctor wants him to take a new drug for cholesterol that is an ejection shot that you give yourself. My husband said he doesn’t know how many ways he can tell him he is not taking any cholesterol pills, OR shots. He knows he has high cholesterol, but it is his choice not to take the drugs. He is thinking about finding a new doctor.
 
Krystal Shay said:
Cholesterol pills can cause muscle pain. My husband has tried every brand and then some off and on over 30 years. The side effects were too much for him. He will not take any cholesterol pills, yet his doctor is still pushing him to take them! Now his doctor wants him to take a new drug for cholesterol that is an ejection shot that you give yourself. My husband said he doesn’t know how many ways he can tell him he is not taking any cholesterol pills, OR shots. He knows he has high cholesterol, but it is his choice not to take the drugs. He is thinking about finding a new doctor.
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As Nancy Reagan once said, "Just say no".
 
@Krystal Shay - I am beginning to think that it is the Lipitor. Even the rheumatologist said his fIL refused to take after a heart attack. I have read about nurses who refuse to take it. I understand after CHF, and other major issues Why they wont me to take it, but none have ever offered a different one. I will see what happens in two weeks. I got up this morning and have managed to move pretty good,aside from a some back pain. I am sure not taking that one pill last night could not possibly already show this affect being able to move. But when anything makes hurt so bad you can barely move, it time for a change.
Will keep you posted.. thank for sharing.
 
In case anyone missed it,
A few years ago at my diabetes support group meeting, I brought some literature about the risks of statins vs the supposed benefits. The reason I shared the information was because statins & all kinds of other drugs are pushed on diabetics to "Protect" them. At my diagnosis 15 years ago, I was prescribed statins, blood pressure drugs, blood thinners, and daily aspirin - none of which I took. When I asked why blood pressure drugs were suggested when my blood pressure was 120/70, I was told, "Well....uh....you're diabetic & these drugs will....protect your kidneys." My research indicated that drugs are toxins & your kidneys have to excrete them, so the less drugs, the better. And, no, I'm not telling anyone else not to take whatever drugs their doctor gives them; you make your own choices. I did my research & made my choice. Doctor's are required to attend continuing education - funded by drug companies. Bias? Perish the thought!

The guy sitting next to me was a retired pharmacist & he became very angry at me for sharing the information; naturally he was educated & programmed to think "The more drugs, the better." He was an active 65 year old who played tennis & he credited statins for keeping him active & preventing heart disease. He lived alone.
He missed the next several meetings & when he showed up, he was in a wheelchair & he had a nurse with him. He explained what happened.
He was relaxing in his recliner one evening & when he got up to go to the restroom, his legs wouldn't work. He wasn't even able to crawl to the phone. He spent four days on the floor - no bathroom, no water, no food. Luckily, his son came to check on him when he couldn't reach him.

After several days hospitalization for dehydration & related kidney damage, then a month in a convalescent center, he told us the damage was permanent & we didn't see him at any more meetings. I don't even want to think about the rest of the story, but even at 73, I wouldn't want to deal with going from being active to total dependency.
 
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Tony Nathanson said:
In case anyone missed it,
A few years ago at my diabetes support group meeting, I brought some literature about the risks of statins vs the supposed benefits. The reason I shared the information was because statins & all kinds of other drugs are pushed on diabetics to "Protect" them. At my diagnosis 15 years ago, I was prescribed statins, blood pressure drugs, blood thinners, and daily aspirin - none of which I took. When I asked why blood pressure drugs were suggested when my blood pressure was 120/70, I was told, "Well....uh....you're diabetic & these drugs will....protect your kidneys." My research indicated that drugs are toxins & your kidneys have to excrete them, so the less drugs, the better. And, no, I'm not telling anyone else not to take whatever drugs their doctor gives them; you make your own choices. I did my research & made my choice. Doctor's are required to attend continuing education - funded by drug companies. Bias? Perish the thought!

The guy sitting next to me was a retired pharmacist & he became very angry at me for sharing the information; naturally he was educated & programmed to think "The more drugs, the better." He was an active 65 year old who played tennis & he credited statins for keeping him active & preventing heart disease. He lived alone.
He missed the next several meetings & when he showed up, he was in a wheelchair & he had a nurse with him. He explained what happened.
He was relaxing in his recliner one evening & when he got up to go to the restroom, his legs wouldn't work. He wasn't even able to crawl to the phone. He spent four days on the floor - no bathroom, no water, no food. Luckily, his son came to check on him when he couldn't reach him.

After several days hospitalization for dehydration & related kidney damage, then a month in a convalescent center, he told us the damage was permanent & we didn't see him at any more meetings. I don't even want to think about the rest of the story, but even at 73, I wouldn't want to deal with going from being active to total dependency.
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It was perhaps rhabdomyolysis, a fairly common side effect of statin drugs, although they claim it is rare in the ads. Considering how many folks are on statins, it isn't considered common. I saw about 1 case per month before I retired at the hospital where I worked, but considering I never saw a single case during the decades I worked before statins were introduced to the market. I basically those muscle pains taken to extremes. I guess it can be fatal, but I never saw a fatality. I did, however, see disability and that may be what the pharmacist experienced. My BIL is a pharmacist, and, while being a very intelligent person, like you said, he hasn't seen a drug he doesn't like and is particularly fond of statins and PPI drugs.
 
Don Alaska said:
It was perhaps rhabdomyolysis, a fairly common side effect of statin drugs, although they claim it is rare in the ads. Considering how many folks are on statins, it isn't considered common. I saw about 1 case per month before I retired at the hospital where I worked, but considering I never saw a single case during the decades I worked before statins were introduced to the market. I basically those muscle pains taken to extremes. I guess it can be fatal, but I never saw a fatality. I did, however, see disability and that may be what the pharmacist experienced. My BIL is a pharmacist, and, while being a very intelligent person, like you said, he hasn't seen a drug he doesn't like and is particularly fond of statins and PPI drugs.
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My sister started taking antidepressants a few years ago. On two occasions, I took her to the ER with terrible pain which turned out to be Gallstones. I wondered if that could be connected to her antidepressants: (When antidepressant drugs are advertised, they are required to mention dangerous high blood sugar as a side effect but there is no mention of Gallbladder issues.

Yes, certain antidepressants can increase the risk of gallstones. Tricyclic antidepressants (TCAs) like amitriptyline can impair gallbladder muscle contractions, causing incomplete emptying. Additionally, some SSRIs and SNRIs can cause liver function impairment or reduce bile flow (cholestasis), contributing to gallstone formation. [1, 2, 3, 4, 5]
Key Considerations:
    • Mechanism: When the gallbladder does not empty properly, bile becomes concentrated and can harden into stones over time. [1, 2, 3, 4]
    • Affected Medications: Tricyclic antidepressants are more commonly associated with gallbladder issues, while certain SSRIs like fluoxetine appear to have a lower risk of impairing gallbladder emptying. [1, 2]
    • Depression Link: Studies indicate that depression itself may independently elevate the risk of developing gallstones, complicating direct causality. [1, 2]
If you are experiencing symptoms like severe abdominal pain, nausea, or indigestion, you should consult your prescribing physician to evaluate your medication and liver health. For further reading on antidepressant-induced side effects, you can review the detailed analysis on PubMed Central. [1]

No doctor mentioned this risk - they only told her what foods to avoid.
 
Nothing specific to state really but. Ten-fifteen years ago, back when I was fairly healthy [I did know I had heart disease] . I was on a trip, stopped at an outside coffee shop. Two women sitting near me were nurses [elder care] was the term they used. We got to talking and most of what they told me was just downright scary. They stated that doctors just load their patients up with drugs [most of which they did not need] They were careful of what they reveled [IMO] but I was a stranger in their town, so no effect one way or the other on them. I noticed one of them even took her badge off and slipped it into her purse.

I would sure LUV to sit down and talk to them today.
 
While I am for both science and holistic, I lean toward natural if possible.

Folks can do what they want with this information— it works for myself and my brother, but may not work for others.

We inherited high cholesterol. I am not overweight, he is only slightly.

I was diagnosed with high cholesterol much later in life than my brother.

I forget what the doctor prescribed for me, but it made me sick, so I pitched it and started taking Nature Made’s fish oil; (2) 1200 ml pills daily.

Whaddaya know, on my next blood draw the doctor was happy with my cholesterol level.

My brother lives 10 hours away so we don’t talk a lot. Unbeknownst to me, he was also on fish oil and it has been keeping his cholesterol under control for quite a few years. His wife is an oncology nurse, so she subscribes to both science and vitamins.

Just saying maybe fish oil will work for some, maybe it won’t. Do your own research.
 
LOL - still milking Covid for every dollar they can get. The latest miracle drug - Xocova. And still using guilt to sell. During flu season, Kaiser Permanente displays a big banner at the entrance: "If you don't get your flu shot, you are making others sick." Uh....yeah, 'cuz their flu shot works so well.

Hey, whatever happened to "If it's Covid, Paxlovid?" :giggle:
 
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rhabdomyolysis,@Don Alaska - Good possibility, perhaps if I ever hear back on the blood work I will know.
I do know this .. it has been 5 days since no Lipitor and aside from my back,no pains, no weighted shoulders, no extreme fatigue.I do have high creatine levels and always have had off and on. this can cause issues as well. NO doctor has ever addressed to me. I have some energy back. No sure what I will do in future, but it wont be 20 mg of Lipitor.
 
Buck Bailey said:
Nothing specific to state really but. Ten-fifteen years ago, back when I was fairly healthy [I did know I had heart disease] . I was on a trip, stopped at an outside coffee shop. Two women sitting near me were nurses [elder care] was the term they used. We got to talking and most of what they told me was just downright scary. They stated that doctors just load their patients up with drugs [most of which they did not need] They were careful of what they reveled [IMO] but I was a stranger in their town, so no effect one way or the other on them. I noticed one of them even took her badge off and slipped it into her purse.

I would sure LUV to sit down and talk to them today.
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we have niece who became a RN last year.. if I ever get to talk to her will ask her some things
 
Connie Bennett said:
While I am for both science and holistic, I lean toward natural if possible.

Folks can do what they want with this information— it works for myself and my brother, but may not work for others.

We inherited high cholesterol. I am not overweight, he is only slightly.

I was diagnosed with high cholesterol much later in life than my brother.

I forget what the doctor prescribed for me, but it made me sick, so I pitched it and started taking Nature Made’s fish oil; (2) 1200 ml pills daily.

Whaddaya know, on my next blood draw the doctor was happy with my cholesterol level.

My brother lives 10 hours away so we don’t talk a lot. Unbeknownst to me, he was also on fish oil and it has been keeping his cholesterol under control for quite a few years. His wife is an oncology nurse, so she subscribes to both science and vitamins.

Just saying maybe fish oil will work for some, maybe it won’t. Do your own research.
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I remember when fish oil became a big thing in the 1990's or so. When my doctor began pushing statins at me 20 years ago I tried fish oil capsules. I'll never forget the nausea and "fish burps" from those disgusting things.

I think other foods that provide Omega 3's are stuff like flaxseed, some nuts, and some algae supplements. I read that some chickens are fed flaxseed and the eggs have increased Omega 3's.
 
Beth Gallagher said:
I think other foods that provide Omega 3's are stuff like flaxseed, some nuts, and some algae supplements. I read that some chickens are fed flaxseed and the eggs have increased Omega 3's.
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I just did a little reading on the Omega 3 eggs, that I have never even heard of before today. HEB has them (store brand XL free range) for $3.63 a dozen; each egg provides 225 mg of Omega 3, which is almost the recommended daily dose (250 mg). Maybe I'll start eating an egg a day.

Clinical trials with results from consuming Omega 3 eggs... https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/18991244/
 
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Beth Gallagher said:
I remember when fish oil became a big thing in the 1990's or so. When my doctor began pushing statins at me 20 years ago I tried fish oil capsules. I'll never forget the nausea and "fish burps" from those disgusting things.

I think other foods that provide Omega 3's are stuff like flaxseed, some nuts, and some algae supplements. I read that some chickens are fed flaxseed and the eggs have increased Omega 3's.
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I think it depends on the brand of fish oil and type of fish used in the capsule. 🤷‍♀️ My husband switched to a different brand and he doesn't have anymore of those awful fish burbs. :sick: He takes these.👇

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