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  1. Ken Anderson

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    No, I hadn't but I just did.
     
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    I just looked on Alexa and Seniorsonly.club ranking has gone up and seniorforums has gone down.

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    And this one is seniorforums...

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    I won't normally be doing this so often, but I noticed some changes from just a few days ago so I thought I'd check them all. There are some ups and downs, but mostly ups. Keep in mind that, depending on how many ads the search result pages show, there are usually about 10 results per page, so in order to turn up on page one, we have to rank between one and ten, and eleven through twenty will get me on page two.

    Very few people look beyond the first two pages of the search results, so I want to be at least in the #20 spot. Also, a good position in Google is far more valuable than a good position in Bing or Yahoo.

    Some of these are too competitive for us to do well yet, while we're not even optimized for others. We're doing pretty well, actually.

     
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    Okay, it's been a month so let's see where we are today.

     
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    After a discussion in another thread, I decided to check and see which pages of the forum have gotten the most visits from people clicking on them from search engine results in the past week.

    Other than the main page, which has received by far the most clicks, the top five category or forum pages were:
    1. Constitution & Bill of Rights
    2. Senior Directory Project
    3. Senior Employment
    4. Crops & Gardens
    5. Hobbies & Crafts
    These reflect the pages that have received the most clicks this week, either to that specific page or one of the subpages beneath it. These pages come up in searches largely because they are the most often linked to from directories, blogs, and other third-party web sites that link to this forum, so they get an extra boost in the search engine results, but it may also be because they included topics that are often searched on, or perhaps because there isn't a lot of competition for some of them.

    The ten forum pages or threads that were most often clicked on from forum results are:
    1. What Are We Eating For 2016?
    2. Thank You, Thank You Very Much: Let's Talk Elvis
    3. Who Has More Faith? Believers Or Atheists?
    4. Baker's Dozen
    5. What's For Breakfast?
    6. Ants In The Attic
    7. Home Remedies
    8. What Is Your Impression Of The Bible?
    9. The Pope Versus The Donald
    10. Shopping & Sales
    Some of these threads were just created this week, and one was just created today. One of the reasons for this is that Google gives a boost to new pages. When a new page is indexed by Google, the search engine frequently displays it prominently for a few days and if it gets a lot of clicks, it might remain prominent, but often not. Another thing that Google does is it tracks the length of time that someone remains on a page after clicking on it and uses that in its algorithm. In other words, if someone click on a search engine result and immediately realizes that it's not what they were looking for and goes elsewhere, Google tracks that and considers that this result wasn't relevant for that person. On the other hand, if they click on the page and then remain on the site for a long time, clicking into other pages of the site, Google tracks that too, and assumes that this must have been a relevant result for that searcher.

    Some of the threads that were popular among search engine users today were game threads, but they were very long ones, some more than fifty pages, and they tended to have a focus. One of them - the tenth one - was a forum thread, meaning that the entire collection of threads beneath that forum were popular. Either way, this is simply a snapshot. I don't plan on doing this often but if I were to look again next week, the most popular category pages would probably remain much the same, but the most popular pages would undoubtedly differ.
     
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    Not much of a change, some ups, some downs.

     
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    seniors forum
    • Bing: 1
    • Google: 4
    • Yahoo: 6
    • Yandex: 12
    seniors only
    • Bing: 1
    • Google: 1
    • Yahoo: 1
    • Yandex: 1
    seniors discussion forum
    • Bing: 1
    • Google: 2
    • Yahoo: 2
    • Yandex: 7
    forum for seniors
    • Bing: 1
    • Google: 2
    • Yahoo: 9
    • Yandex: 12
    senior discussions
    • Bing: 19
    • Google: 0
    • Yahoo: 19
    • Yandex: 0
    over fifty forum
    • Bing: 0
    • Google: 0
    • Yahoo: 0
    • Yandex: 0
    forum for older people
    • Bing: 0
    • Google: 0
    • Yahoo: 0
    • Yandex: 0
    forum for people fifty or older
    • Bing: 7
    • Google: 12
    • Yahoo: 17
    • Yandex: 0
    forum for people fifty years old or older
    • Bing: 2
    • Google: 0
    • Yahoo: 8
    • Yandex: 0
    I didn't look beyond the second page of results.
     
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    Congratulations Ken....people are definitely finding their way here more and more..
     
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    Thanks. Slowly, we're moving up. I haven't put a lot of money into marketing, other than some directory listings and an occasional Facebook ad campaign, largely because I don't intend to earn any money from the forum.
     
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    If you have no plans of earning any income from SOC then I think we're doing okay... maybe a few more people would be nice but I certainly wouldn't like us to become a huge forum ....They're too impersonal.

    Even though Ive had my ups and downs on here I still feel very comfortable posting my true feelings on here...wether they agree or disagree with the poster.
     
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    @Chrissy Cross, I think we could handle being larger but only if we got there gradually. A large influx of new people would change the dynamics, and it might not be as much fun as it is now. In any forum, people come and go and we have to have at least as many new people coming as there are going, but a large number of people either coming or going at the same time could be a problem. I will keep trying to bring us up in the search engines though, because I want people who are looking for what we have to be able to find us.
     
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    I think they're right about the Russians, though. They must be the enemy because Yandex doesn't rate us highly.
     
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    @Ken Anderson , I don't understand those charts, Could you please explain it to a poor ol' country girl?
     
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    @Shirley Martin, that's the search engine results from four common search engines; well, actually three common ones plus Yandex, a Russian one. Not counting advertisements, most of them display ten results per page, and most people don't look beyond page one, so I want to be somewhere between one and ten.
     
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    @Ken Anderson , if somebody searches Bing for "forum for people fifty years old or older", we would be number 2 on the list?
     
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    Yes, or that is where it was when I checked. Positions change from time to time.
     
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    seniors forum
    • Bing: 1
    • Google: 3
    • Yahoo: 4
    • Yandex: 4
    seniors only
    • Bing: 1
    • Google: 1
    • Yahoo: 1
    • Yandex: 2
    seniors discussion forum
    • Bing: 1
    • Google: 2
    • Yahoo: 2
    • Yandex: 10
    forum for seniors
    • Bing: 1
    • Google: 2
    • Yahoo: 8
    • Yandex: 15
    senior discussions
    • Bing: 18
    • Google: 0
    • Yahoo: 18
    • Yandex: 7
    over fifty forum
    • Bing: 0
    • Google: 0
    • Yahoo: 0
    • Yandex: 0
    forum for older people
    • Bing: 0
    • Google: 0
    • Yahoo: 0
    • Yandex: 0
    forum for people fifty or older
    • Bing: 10
    • Google: 13
    • Yahoo: 6
    • Yandex: 0
    forum for people fifty years old or older
    • Bing: 2
    • Google: 18
    • Yahoo: 10
    • Yandex: 0
    I didn't look beyond the second page of results.
     
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    seniors only
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    seniors discussion forum
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    forum for seniors
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    2. Google: 2
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    senior discussions
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    • Google: 0
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    over fifty forum
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    forum for older people
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    forum for people fifty or older
    • Bing: 9
    • Google: 16
    • Yahoo: 9
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    forum for people fifty years old or older
    • Bing: 2
    • Google: 12
    • Yahoo: 11
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    fifty plus forum
    • Bing: 20
    • Google: 0
    • Yahoo: 20
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    seniors discussion forum
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    forum for seniors
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    forum for people fifty or older
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    2. Google: 17
    3. Yahoo: Our Facebook page is #4
    4. Yandex: 2
    forum for people fifty years old or older
    1. Bing: 3, Our Facebook page is #2
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    3. Yahoo: Our Facebook page is #3
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    fifty plus forum
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    I have noticed that a lot of the time when guests are searching that there seemed to be a visit to the conspiracy section and looking at the thread about the royal bloodlines of presidents and celebrities. I just went to look at how many views that thread has, and it is well over 10,000 views, a lot more than the other threads in that section of the forum.
    This started me wondering if there is some way we can tell which threads have the most views (by amount) without looking through each thread in every section of the forum, @Ken Anderson ?
    It looks like at least that thread must be attracting visitors from the search engines .
     
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    This is not the total views. Later, when I get a chance, I'll see if I can hunt that down, but these are the top 20 landing pages, meaning the pages that brought people to the site through searches, as well as the most common search terms that brought them there.

    The search term will be listed first, then the name of the page, with a link to it.

    senior forums SENIORSonly Club
    hillary clinton blood type The Royal Bloodlines Of Our Presidents and Entertainers
    what does duck taste like What Does Roast Duck Taste Like
    happy birthday denise Happy Birthday, Denise
    hank kunneman obama Another Political Prophecy By Hank Kunneman...
    701-33 Weird Text (cellphone)
    inspirational quotes for seniors citizens Inspirational Quotes For Senior Citizens
    happy birthday yvonne Happy Birthday, Yvonne
    bone weary Bone Weary Tiredness
    junkables Have You Heard Of Junkables.com
    maverick storage wars Tattoos
    hula hooping naked Hula Hooping Naked - A Pome By Me
    good old days magazine Good Old Days Magazine
    people leaving florida People Leaving Florida?
    bamboo pillow kroger Bamboo Pillows, What Do You Think About Them?
    life is not always fair Life Is Not Always Fair
    uncle tetsu cheesecake calories Uncle Tetsu Cheesecake To Open First Us Chain In Hawaii
    matt lauer puffy shirt Matt Lauer As Jerry Seinfeld In The Puffy Shirt
    first grandma to receive $160k lifetime pension Separating Fact From Fiction
    daveno couch Couch, Sofa, Davenport

    As you can see from this, the thread title is very important as far as the thread appearing in search engine results, which is why I always encourage titles that fit the topic of the thread.

    Apart from the top 20, the royal bloodlines thread shows up under several different search terms, so that's probably it's getting so many visits. Other high search terms leading to that thread are
    • presidents blood type
    • famous people with rh negative blood type
    • donald trump blood type
    • presidents with rh negative blood
    • famous rh negative people
    • what blood type is donald trump
     
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    Would it help if we voluntarily place 2 or 3 key words after a thread that we start? Such as: The old man went to the sanatorium. Under the post would be "old man" and "sanatorium" as key words for the OP.
    I have seen it done and it's even mandatory on a few sites but I do not know if it has any real effect on the overall viewing.
     
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    Probably not quite in that way, but it is good to make sure that the words used in the title appear in the thread so that the automated algorithm that the search engines use don't consider the title to have been deceptive. Mostly though, if the title gives a good idea of where the author expects the thread to go, a natural conversation will work just fine.
     
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    • Yahoo: 2
    • Yandex: 1
    seniors only
    • Bing: 1
    • Google: 1
    • Yahoo: 1
    • Yandex: 1
    seniors discussion forum
    • Bing: 1
    • Google: 2
    • Yahoo: 2
    • Yandex: 1
    forum for seniors
    • Bing: 1
    • Google: 2
    • Yahoo: 5
    • Yandex: 14
    senior discussions
    • Bing: 1
    • Google: 4
    • Yahoo: 8
    • Yandex: 5
    over fifty forum
    • Bing: 0
    • Google: 0
    • Yahoo: 0
    • Yandex: 0
    forum for older people
    • Bing: 0
    • Google: 0
    • Yahoo: 0
    • Yandex: 0
    forum for people fifty or older
    • Bing: 6
    • Google: 0
    • Yahoo: 5
    • Yandex: 2
    forum for people fifty years old or older
    • Bing: 2, Our Facebook page is #5
    • Google: 0
    • Yahoo: 7
    • Yandex: 0
    fifty plus forum
    • Bing: 11
    • Google: 0
    • Yahoo: 5
    • Yandex: 0
     
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