Peer Reviewed Survey Finds Majority Of Scientists Skeptical Of Global Warming Crisis

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  1. Ken Anderson

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    I understand that there has been a ton of governmental, media, and educational hype about global warming but I'm telling you that there have always been periods of warming and periods of cooling, and we're not facing anything today that is any worse than anything that has been faced before, even before the creation of mankind, let alone the gasoline engine.

    None of the steps that they are proposing and actually putting into place is going to have any discernible effect on global warming, and it's not intended to. If the biggest proponents of global warming theory really believed this nonsense themselves, they wouldn't be doing the opposite of what they would have the rest of us do, as far as their own usage, and they certainly wouldn't be dropping bombs all across the globe, as if my use of an incandescent bulb is going to put an end to the earth while bombs being dropped on countries overseas will have no effect whatsoever.

    No, like gun control, global warming policies are all about control over people, not control over temperatures or climates.
     
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    Interesting theory. I just ponder why Europe, India, China, Australia ,New Zealand, Japan and most of South East Asia have now embraced global warming?

    I could produce reams of data.

    I suppose it's a suck it and see scenario.

    I for one would hate to hear as in most news reports. Oh lessons have been learned. Sorry folks it's too late there is global warming.
     
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    As an aside. Many sceptics felt the moon landings were a conspiracy theory. Food for thought :)
     
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    The planet has experienced global warming many times during its history. Even since mankind has been around, the North American continent has been covered by glaciers twice during periods of global cooling, each of which were followed by periods of global warming. No cars involved. No aerosol sprays. No incandescent bulbs. Climate change is pretty much what the earth does for a living, and always has, and will continue regardless of how high our taxes climb or how many jobs we lose in a senseless pursuit.
     
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    Honey Gee

    If global warming had anything to do with cancer it is pretty selective

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    Weather is NOT Climate!
     
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    Question: What do many reasonable people doubt science?

    Answer: We don't doubt science. We doubt that scientists are practicing science.
     
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    Source: Investors Business Daily
     
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    Having worked in statistics, although not my field it was part of my job. It was well known that stats can be skewed and only represent that view for one day and even made to make things seem a little better.

    I have got an open mind about global warming and the environment and prepared to view both sides. My rule of thumb.

    Make a list, and use the pros and cons rule.

    So far for me that cons are outstripping the pros.

    Time will tell.

    Anyway about time @Patsy Faye added a thought as she raised the point about the Great Barrier Reef. I was just commenting on that thread. Nice to hear your views Patsy :):)
     
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    Concur very odd bunch Ken. Feasible though :)
     
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    You seem to have forgotten the UK Ken. The reason treatments have improved

    This is where I worked in Wales


    http://www.wcisu.wales.nhs.uk/cancer-in-wales-1
     
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    This is my 4th post

    @Martin Alonzo - interesting to see the highest rate of cancers are in built up areas
     
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    @Patsy Faye you know I am teasing Patsy. Kinda hoped you get me off the hook:)

    You need a cup of Tetly x
     
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    One of the things that I have been reading about the antarctic region is that some places are getting a whole lot MORE ice than before, but the western part is actually where it is melting.
    A few years back, they sent a special ice-breaker ship to Antarctica with scientists that were going to go there and study global warming. The ship went in the summer, which was when they should have been able to get in the closest to the area that they wanted to reach.
    Instead, they ran into ice well before they expected any, and became stuck in the ice. I think that it was Australia that sent in another ship to rescue them, and that ice-breaker ship was also trapped there as the ice expanded, and they were trapped before they could even get as far as the first ship had gone.
    Finally, Russia sent in a ship, which managed to free both of the other two ships and they all made it back to safety.

    However, on the west part of Antarctica, there are several underwater volcanoes, and these volcanoes have been active for the last several years, which warms up the water, and also helps to break up the glaciers from underneath the ice.
    This is why some parts of the ice are melting and other parts are increasing.

    http://dailycaller.com/2014/06/11/s...ier-melt-due-to-volcanoes-not-global-warming/
     
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    It took me a while to find this information again; but I wanted to share this with everyone who is concerned about climate change. There are people who study the sun and its cycles, and they base their predictions on what has happened before with the sun. One such person is NASA scientist, John Casey.
    I first heard this man speak on the Caravan to Midnight, which is John B. Wells online radio program. He spoke for around 2 hours, as I remember, and I don't have the link for that podcast; but I do have this shorter interview that John Casey did with Newsmax Television.
    He says that we are headed into a mini ice-age which will last until around 2050. The last time we were in this solar minimum was back in the 1600-1700 hundreds, and that was what caused the famines almost worldwide, the most well-known of which is probably the potato famine in Ireland.
    According to Casey, the sun cycles through periods of heating and cooling, called the solar minimum and solar maximum. We have been in the last one of the solar maximum periods but we are now cooling down again.
    He has written a book about this , called Dark Winter, if you are interested in learning more about his theories. There are also some longer videos on youtube where John Casey has given more in-depth interviews about the sun cycles.

     
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    Looks like more global warming
     
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    @Yvonne Smith - thanks for the info - interesting
    I think I'll accept the oddities of it all, no use worrying about it, there's not a lot I can do about it anyway :)
     
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    100-YEAR-OLD SHIP’S LOG DESTROYS ENVIRONMENTALISTS PROVES ANTARCTIC ICE UNCHANGED IN CENTURY

     
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    More signs of global warming
     
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    Yesterday was this areas 3rd warmest Christmas ever. The warmest was in 1886. So it was warmer 130 years ago why was Florida not completely under water?
     
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    Apparently, much of Europe is having terribly cold weather right now, and the newscaster is referring to a "mini ice age " when they are describing it.
    The pictures from over there are showing HUGE snowdrifts everywhere, and another Arctic blast is supposed to hit this next week, according to what they are predicting.
    We have not heard much about it, but Canada is supposed to be having really bad snow and cold, too. I know @Steve North was just commenting about having a bad blizzard up there where he lives, and maybe he can tell us more about the weather in his part of the world right now?

     
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    The U.S. is in deep freeze now
     
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