Mystery Of Cahokia – Why Did North America's Largest City Vanish?

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  1. Joe Riley

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    "Long before Columbus reached the Americas, Cahokia was the biggest, most cosmopolitan city north of Mexico. Yet by 1350 it had been deserted by its native inhabitants the Mississippians – and no one is sure why".
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    Probably was taken over by democrats,,,,, like Detroit.
     
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    Probably got tired of laying up on that second level to reach the Green.
    They abandoned it for a par-5; that raised par-3 looks pretty hard even with modern clubs.:eek:
     
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    Karma caught up with them.
     
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    Other peoples just disappeared didn't they - the Mayans and some others that I can't recall right now - I think me brain
    is melting ......................:p
     
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    I never even heard of it. I guess that is one of the Lost Cities that have come before. Lost cities are one thing, but somehow we managed to lose a whole continent. I am talking about Atlantis. I like to watch Expedition Unknown because that show delves into the realms of some of that kind of stuff. However, they are always "finding just enough" to keep viewers entertained I think. I wonder if it is planted evidence. Anyway, the show is fun to watch and historical too.
     
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    It looks as thpugh it is surrounded by a low lying area. Flooding? Perhaps a disease killed them off?
     
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    "The Native Americans at Cahokia farmed, traded and hunted. They were also early urban planners, who used astronomical alignments to lay out a low-scale metropolis of 10-20,000 people, featuring a town centre with broad public plazas and key buildings set atop vast, hand-built earthen mounds. The largest of these mounds was 100 feet tall and covered 14 acres – and still exists today.

    But rather than developing, like London, into a modern metropolis, Cahokia is more like the fabled lost continent of Atlantis. Having become a major population centre around AD1050, by 1350 it was largely abandoned by its people – and no one is sure why. Neither war, disease, nor European conquest drove Cahokia’s residents from their homes. Indeed, the first white man to reach these lands, Spanish explorer Hernando de Soto, didn’t do so until 1540".
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    Why did it say "Mississippians"? "This article is about a Native American site at Cahokia Mounds. For the modern city located about 10 miles (16 km) to the southwest, see Cahokia, Illinois." see: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cahokia

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    Monks Mound, the largest earthen structure at Cahokia (for scale, an adult is standing on top)
     
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    "In its prime, about four centuries before Columbus stumbled on to the western hemisphere, Cahokia was a prosperous pre-American city with a population similar to London’s".

    "Located in southern Illinois, eight miles from present-day St Louis, it was probably the largest North American city north of Mexico at that time. It had been built by the Mississippians, a group of Native Americans who occupied much of the present-day south-eastern United States, from the Mississippi river to the shores of the Atlantic".

    "Cahokia was a sophisticated and cosmopolitan city for its time. Yet its history is virtually unknown by most Americans and present-day Illinoisans. It is one of many stories that have been bypassed in favor of the shopworn narrative – reinforced in literature and a century of American cinema – of Native Americans as backward and primitive".
     
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    I have come across episodes of National Geographic or Discovery Channel on ancient cities that were deserted for unknown reasons. One theory is the arrival of aliens who terrorized the place hence the population dwindled until none was left. Or maybe a suicide bomber had targeted the area, huh. But there were no bombs yet at that time. On a serious note, there was this theory about superstition. You know the olden times when voodoo had great influence on people such that the so called witch doctors seemed to be running the government at times. A superstition can drive away people. Like when there was an outbreak of Ebola, I'm sure the elders in Africa were blaming the gods for their misfortune and if a famous witch doctor would declare to abandon their country then it would be deserted like what we find now in ancient cities.
     
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    Here is another informative video lecture that shows pictures of the mounds at Cahokia, and also some very interesting other mounds and underground chambers that were built in around the same timeframe. The man telling about these structures is a stone mason, and he can readily understand the difficulty involved, and the skills necessary to build these odd chambers, which are made to coordinate with the calendar and movements of the sun.
    This is totally connected with the other historical information that has been hidden, or forgotten, that concerns early inhabitants of North America, all the way back to hundreds of years BC. I have started a thread on that, and hope to have more information as I study and learn more about what our actual history of the people of North America was.
    It is pretty obvious that the early American Indians were not the uneducated savages that they have been portrayed to be in our history books and movies.

     
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    What an awesome map, @Joe Riley ! All it is lacking is more information ...... Ahem.
    Are the green markers all mounds or places where early Americans lived ? I noticed that two of them are relatively close to where I am at, the ones at Florence, and also the Hobbs Island ones. Hobbs Island is just down along the Tennessee River, and I think that Robin took Bobby and I down there one day last summer.
    I will do some research on this, because I just know that "Indiana Robin" will want to go and see ancient mounds or whatever it is that is there.
    Where did you find the map, and does the website have more detailed information about the mounds ?
     
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    @Yvonne Smith - Here is the Link for the map. It is from WikipediA
    "The historic and modern day American Indian nations believed to have descended from the overarching Mississippian Culture include: the Alabama, Apalachee,Caddo, Chickasaw, Cherokee, Choctaw, Muscogee Creek, Guale, Hitchiti, Houma, Kansa, Missouria, Mobilian, Natchez, Osage, Quapaw, Seminole, Tunica-Biloxi, Yamasee, ..."
     
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    The Lost Civilizations of North America
    "Why don't most Americans, including many historians, know about the highly advanced ancient civilization that existed in the 'Heartland' of North American near the time of Christ? The Lost Civilizations of North America is a powerful new documentary film that explores this question of historical importance to all Americans, but especially those of Native American descent".

    The Lost Civilizations of North America documentary DVD Trailer

     
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    One of the articles that I was reading about Cahokia said that it was as large as London was at that time, and even as large as Rome, which would be one of the oldest cities in the world.
    If Cahokia was as large as the oldest and largest cities in the Old World, then it could have possibly been the largest city in existance anywhere back in that day.
    For it to have been that large and equal to cities that we know had been in ixistance for many years, there were either a whole lot of people that migrated to North America, or (more likely) they had been here for quite some time, and multiplied rapidly.
    One of the most interesting oldtime theroies that I have read is that at one time, ages ago, there was only one large continent (possibly Atlantis ?) and something happened that caused the continents to break up in to what we have today. If that happened to be true, then it would explain why we have people of similar backgrounds in diverse countries, and on some of the islands. Not only that, we have similar animals and birds in very diverse parts of the planet, and this would explain how that happened as well. Parrots, as an example, are in South America, and also in Africa. Even some of the extinct creatures were found on more than one continent.
    Anyway, that could also explain why Cahokia was such a large city back before we even knew there were people here other than a few nomadic early tribes.
     
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    "Pangaea or Pangea was a supercontinent that existed during the late Paleozoic and early Mesozoic eras. It assembled from earlier continental units approximately 300 million years ago, and it began to break apart about 175 million years ago. In contrast to the present Earth and its distribution of continental mass, much of Pangaea was in the southern hemisphere and surrounded by a super ocean, Panthalassa. Pangaea was the last supercontinent to have existed and the first to be reconstructed by geologists".

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    In 250 million years it might happen again!
     
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    good enough reason to run for your life
     
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    New Evidence May Solve Mystery of America's Huge Ancient City
    Mississippi floods shaped the rise and fall of the prehistoric metropolis known as Cahokia.
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    Aliens and Predators II: The Mysterious Depopulation of Cahokia
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    "Cahokia digs have shown the city to be a pre-Columbian Ace Hardware, manufacturing hoes and axes with flint blades. They acquired copper from the Great Lakes, mica from the Carolinas, and shells from the Gulf of Mexico. The river was a superhighway for traders".
     
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    It was called Pangaea a time in history when the continents as we know it today was formed. Here is a link to an article about Pangaea, that Joe spoke about.
     
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    @Krissttina Isobe - Thanks for the link, I like the idea of the shell being "One big heat conveyor belt"!

    "While the heat formed in the mantle likely comes from the radioactive decay of unstable elements, such as uranium, scientists don't agree on whether there are mini-pockets of heat flow within the mantle, or if the entire shell is one big heat conveyor belt".
     
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