I noticed this type of berry plant at the garden area back in the spring. In my area of Texas, we have never heard of this type of berry. My son and I looked that the picture of the plant in awe as it was so new to us. I live in zone 8 where the heat is brutal, yet my blackberries do really well in the shaded area of my yard. Could I grow them in zone 8 Ken? Would they need shade like my blackberries?