Life After Death Do You Believe Or

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  1. Holly Saunders

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    ...could you be convinced?


    I know we've discussed life after death beliefs before on here.... but I would like you all to listen to something..

    I don't know if you all remember Merle Kilgore, the country singer and writer, manager of Hank Williams Jnr and a great raconteur ... he's dead now, but he always had stories to tell and was always a very popular guy with his peers


    Some years ago, he was telling a story on a radio interview about the death of his great friend and country singer Johnny Horton ... ( I didn't know Johnny he died when I was a tot)...but I did know merle kilgore who was with us until the mid 90's ...

    Here's the video of the interview...it's old so you'll have to listen carefully .... what are your thoughts...?

     
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    Fantastic Holly - just about heard it though
    At first I thought, well he's had a premonition, which he did - and I've had several in my life too
    Then, there was the code sentence and 'that' was a great idea
    If Merle needed proof - he got it - Fab !
     
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    Yes I agree @Patsy Faye ...the code sentence was just inspired ..


    I've always said to my family that we'd have a code word if we die and can prove life after death, we'd use it...but that sentence ... was just amazing, and it's highly doubtful that anyone could have have known it...
     
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    Exactly
    I shall put me thinking 'ead on and come up with something
    For Gloria Hunniford and her daughter, it was white feathers and Gloria gets a feather come down
    in the most unlikely places - smashing !
     
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    I read he used witchcraft to contact Johnny Horten. He also gets mistakenly credited for some racist songs by Johnny Rebel because one particularly nasty one sounds a lot like the Battle of New Orleans.

    If I believed anybody could come back and leave a sign after death...it would have been my husband and he said he would but ...no sign.:(....nada.
     
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    Yep - it is strange Chrissy - I can only assume some of us are more 'tuned in' to it
    I was, right from a child
     
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    But what does religion say about it? How come God only lets some people hear from their loved ones?

    And in this case through seances etc

    I don't even understand what's talked about as afterlife...heaven? Another place?

    In my opinion we're all humans in the same boat...if there is a God, it's the same for all of us.
     
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    What religion says about it is of no interest to me
    All will be revealed when we get there :)
     
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    I agree...I just don't understand why some get to give a sign. :)
     
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    Yea, I understand the confusion
    We're not all the same though and those wishing to get through are not being picked up by the receiver
    for some reason.
    Although I've never done Yoga, I can see this would probably help to have absolute calm in mind and body
    Which like me 'now' - you would be needing Chrissy :p x
     
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    When your dead...your dead.I read once long ago a scientific test was done on terminally ill people. When they passed away a weight was reduced from the weight of the bed. Meaning the soul had lifted and passed...therefore this was the last evidence of life. The soul had passed.
    I do believe in connections so deep and true...such as married for 50 years...that when one passes the remaining spouse will either feel weighted or lighter in conscience spirits. This in turn creates a bonding of spirits...to which that special word or doing becomes more evident to the person left behind. Geez I hope I am making some sense here
    Consedence ? But if you believe it to happen or be said...then it can happen, if nothing else in your own mind.
    My father in law is in that stage of life where he sees and talks to dead ones regularly.Spooky to is...have you ever been totally alone ..no noise of any kind..say cleaning your sink and clearly hear your mother or deceased love one call your name. Geez almost needed me own nappie when that happened :D
     
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    I think your mind can make you believe things that aren't true just because you want it so much.
    when I was young...around 10 we played with ouji boards and could make it move.

    Also seances at some pajama parties...all in fun. We tried to levitate someone. I think we believed we did.:)
     
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    No I don't believe in life after death. When I was in the Funeral Business I had looked down at hundreds of individuals. men women and children as they lay on a slab of porcelain and asked my self if there was life after death and came to the conclusion that what ever is left of these individuals are memories in the mind of the survivors.
     
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    During his productive lifetime, Houdini, (Ehrich Weiss) campaigned actively against Charlatanry as it was being practiced by "Seers" taking folks' money holding séances purportedly allowing contact with their dead loved-ones. Some of the exposures he accomplished were amazingly revealing: Seers were suspected of using hidden conspirators to produce sound effects, voices of dead people, etc., but rarely were "caught" in the act. Houdini, having his own special abilities and competencies at hoodwinking minds, attended many séances, detected and exposed the chicanery, then revealed it publicly. Conversely, few had ever shown much of his own illusory effects to be phony.

    He vowed to return after death, in some way, if it were at all possible, and his wife Beth for many years returned to his grave (I believe it was, and on his birthday, Halloween), but was never to experience a thing back from him. Frank

    "In the 1920s, Houdini turned his energies toward debunking psychics and mediums, a pursuit that inspired and was followed by latter-day stage magicians.[76]

    Houdini's training in magic allowed him to expose frauds who had successfully fooled many scientists and academics. He was a member of a Scientific American committee that offered a cash prize to any medium who could successfully demonstrate
    supernatural abilities. None was able to do so, and the prize was never collected."

    See: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Harry_Houdini#Debunking_spiritualists
     
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    It is a strange phenomenon for sure, but I don't think that God has anything to do with it. Whether it has to do with witchcraft or just fakery, is hard to say. Even in the Bible, when the spirit of Samuel was supposedly called back, it was from the witch of Endor, and not by a prophet of God.
    I have never had any thing that I thought was a message from my mom and dad either, @Chrissy Cross , and I think that if this kind of connection was possible that a lot of people would have heard from their loved ones.
    I do think that our soul lives after the body is dead, and there is even interesting stories about reincarnation where children remember living and earlier life, and what they remember was true. Like @Patsy Faye says, we just have to wait and see. I think that keeping an open mind and looking for truth is an important thing to do, because we actually have no clue what this world really is.
     
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    I really don't believe we can communicate with the dead, any of us, try though we may.
    I sort of agree. When we die its over. If not and the next life is as hard as this one or harder, I'd as soon pass. Is there life after this one? We don't know. We never will in this life.
     
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    What you were seeing was an empty shell, like discarded clothes
    Even surgeons have been convinced now that we have a soul that leaves the body. They did their own experiments on this and
    were stunned by the outcome.
    Why some people 'don't' have the experience, I can't explain. But people 'do' have amazing experiences - for sure
     
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    @Frank Sanoica - Of course there will be frauds as there is in any business undertaking - even 'preachers and priests'
    are not immune to that :rolleyes:
     
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    That must be true for 'some'
    In all my experiences, I never wanted communication at all
    It just happened and at the most unlikely times too
    I rarely relay experiences, its a personal occurrence that just happens. I've always just accepted it
    So I certainly ain't here to convince anybody but would suggest an 'open mind' to the possibility
     
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    When I was a little girl growing up, we had a older lady that lived just down the street from us, and she was known as kind of a "fortune teller". I dont know if she tried to communicate with people who had passed away, but she might have done that. In any case, people went to see her that had questions about something and wanted an answer. She was a friend of my mother's, and seemed like a really nice and honest person, so I don't think that she would have made anything up just to tell people.
    I think that maybe she had premonitions, and was able to advise people from that perspective. I have no idea how accurate she was in her predictions, but she always had people going to talk with her about things, so she must have been right enough that people believed in her abilities.
    That some people can sense things that the rest of us do not seems possible to me. My mother seemed to be sensitive to what I think of as "messages from God", and occasionally I have had this phenomenon happen myself.
    I probably have related this story before about the family (whole car full of us) going to put flowers on graves on Memorial Day, and just before a blind corner on the highway, my mom swerved off of the road and stopped. Before we could even ask her why, one of those huge auto-transport trucks came through the underpass, almost crashing into the concrete on our side of the highway.
    If Mom had not stopped when she did, we would all have been smashed between the transport semi and the concrete wall.
    I asked her about it later, and she just told me that God had told her to pull off of the road immediately. Whether a person believes in God or not, something causes these kinds of extra sensory perceptions, and they do happen, for whatever reason.
     
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    premontions which I do have to point of being scary...even for me.However, for me premontions are not connected to "life after death". I do not even consider being able to sense the oncoming of good or bad as fortune telling...if so I would be rich.
    Some people do have a unknown sense ..um gene maybe...that gives us a heighthened sense of atmospheric going on's that can help us out if harms way.
    It can also be considered a curse to have such an ability. More promonate in women than men sounds like.
     
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