Khizr Kahn

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  1. Ken Anderson

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    Something is off about this guy, Khizr Kahn, who spoke during the Democrat Convention, and who has been used in countless anti-Trump ads that are only thinly disguised as news articles.

    He was born in Pakistan, but raised in the United Arab Emirates. He attended Harvard Law School on a UAE student visa, and then worked on K Street in Washington, DC for several years, specializing in discovery law.

    He recently opened an office in New York City, near Hillary’s campaign office.

    In his speech and in interviews following, he keeps saying that his son had wanted to be a military lawyer. The proper term is JAG Officer but his son was a captain and not in the JAG Corps at the time of his death.

    His son died twelve years ago, but he doesn’t say anything about when his son died, nor does he make it clear that the people who killed his son were Islamic extremists. The actual cause of death isn’t mentioned, and that seems odd.

    He is attacking Trump, although his son was supposedly killed during the Bush administration, yet people are eating up his interviews and, after the attacks on Trump, the media is afraid or otherwise not inclined to ask any questions that might lead away from the narrative.

    It seems as if this is a lot like street theater, with the media playing a rehearsed role in it.
     
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    Soon enough, he may become the newest "Johhny Hwang", bringing cash into the White House for campaign purposes, illegal if the dough is of foreign origin. To bring this about, Presidential orders (in the case of Hwang, a Chinese National) were given personally to Secret Service by the Pres. himself. This activity so angered one of their ranks, he quit and spilled the news.

    I have actual names and documentation somewhere buried in the archives.

    Frank
     
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    Breitbart has some information on this guy.
     
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    Yes, but since it's a conservative news site, the info is meaningless and won't change the perception about the whole mess.

    I really wish Trump would be a little softer in his public appearances and comments. This is not helping him now.

    At least not in my opinion. Also, I wish he would not have an angry face in every single picture I see of him.

    I'm not voting for Hillary but Trump can really act like a jerk....time to do some homework and focus on his
    His campaign if he wants to win.

    Wether the Khan thing is true or not, I think it's too late no matter what dirt is found.

    Of course this is all just my opinion and how I feel but I am a voter that's kind of been on the fence about Trump.

    Some may like his style but it's not my style.... I don't like loudmouth, brash, in your face types.

    I'm looking past that and hoping he will be more professional and presidential in the future.

    He didn't need this whole Khan circus and it could have been avoided.

    Until a neutral source comes out with any negative info on Khan, you just hope it goes away eventually on its own.
     
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    Little about the man who attacked Trump on his policy for immigrants. This guy has deep connection to

    Muslim brotherhood

    Khizr Muazzam Khan graduated in Punjab University Law College, as the New York Times confirms. He specialized in International Trade Law in Saudi Arabia. An interest lawyer for Islamic oil companies Khan wrote a paper, called In Defense of OPEC to defend the Organization of the Petroleum Exporting Countries (OPEC), an intergovernmental oil company consisting of mainly Islamic countries.

    But more than this, Khan is a promoter of Islamic Sharia Law in the U.S. He was a co-founder of the Journal of Contemporary Issues in Muslim Law (Islamic Sharia). Khan’s fascination with Islamic Sharia stems from his life in Saudi Arabia. During the eighties Khan wrote a paper titled Juristic Classification of Islamic [Sharia] Law. In it he elucidated on the system of Sharia law expressing his reverence for “The Sunnah [the works of Muhammad] — authentic tradition of the Prophet Muhammad (Peace be upon him).” A snapshot of his essay can be seen here:

    http://shoebat.com/2016/07/31/what-...law-and-bring-muslims-into-the-united-states/

    http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/201...es-muslim-brotherhood-terrorist-organization/
     
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    I just posted about him and his connections in the politico thread titled attack on Trump
     
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    If your sources are conservative outlets, it's pointless. The people that read those are voting for Trump anyway.

    Trump already has the vote of the people that like his style, it's moderates and on the fence voters and even Ted Cruz supporters he's got to sway.
     
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    im surprised they didn't run up an Islamic terrorist at the DNC telling us how safe we were
     
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    If he couldn't stand criticism, then why did he get up at a political convention and criticize an opposing candidate? Once you put yourself in that position, you should know that you're opening yourself up for criticism. Because he's a Gold Star parent, he can say whatever he likes and no one can refute anything he says? Well, I'm a Gold Star parent too, but if I get behind a microphone at a political rally, I am inviting criticism from anyone who takes another side.
     
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    Trump is not going to get the liberal media sources to campaign for him as they do for Hillary, and there are no neutral sources.
     
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    Then I don't think it will affect anything. I'm a moderate and although I'm leaning toward Trump and won't vote for Hillary, I don't believe what are obvious conservative or liberal sites...I just don't.

    This info will have to at least show up on CNN.

    Also this whole incident really didn't change my mind one way or another except that I'm tiring of his stupid mistakes.

    He needs to stop tweeting idiotic things and focus on the issues, not all this stuff that just sidelines him and gives the other side more ammo.

    He needs to focus when he makes a speech not go off on the fire Marshall etc. he's all over the place.
     
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    Is it just me that thinks he's been acting like a jerk lately? True that I don't watch everything he says but what I've seen irritates me.

    He's not good with question/answer settings. I don't know who he's surrounding himself with but maybe he needs better people. Melania's speech mistake shouldn't have Happened, everything should have been cleaned up on her website, etc.

    This isn't high school, he has money for the best people....why aren't they doing a better job?
     
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    Hillary is going to control the media spin. Neither Trump or any other Republican will be treated fairly by the mainstream media, and that includes Fox this year. The mainstream media are liberal media sources, no more trustworthy than Breitbart.com. Whether Trump says or does anything stupid or not, he will be portrayed as having done so.

    Look at the furor over Trump asking the Russians to hack into Hillary's email. That's not what he said, and anyone listening to what he actually said would recognize it as an obvious joke, and not a bad one at that. Still, the news media, including Fox, ran the Hillary spin as the story, and they are still repeating it. They needed that, as well as the Khizr Kahn nonsense, to distract from the awful performance at the Democrat Convention, so the media obliged.

    This will happen repeatedly, and the media will have the NeverTrump Republicans like the Bushes, Romney, Mitch McConnell and Paul Ryan, as well as hacks like Glenn Beck, who will allow them to continually report that Republicans are turning away from their candidate. That is the way that this election will go because it's that important to them.

    I am hoping, and believe that people are sick of the media spin on everything. Beginning even before this election season, people are turning away from the networks and the established news media. One poll showed that more people said that they got their news from Facebook and Twitter than from the news media, and when they do read a news report that has been posted on Facebook, they especially read the comments, and the comments don't look good for Hillary, even on rabidly liberal news sites like The Hill and Time.com.

    This is not going to be an easy election. Trump is running against a portion of the Republican leadership and the media, as well as against Hillary. In the past, I have often doubted him, and I have repeatedly been proven wrong, so I am going to always consider that he just might know what he is doing.

    As for sources, I'll read any source, including liberal ones, because I want to be able to give accurate information. Despite obvious liberal biases, the Huffington Post often posts accurate news. Breitbart.com is a conservative source but it has been a fairly reliable one, and the site gives references to its own sources. On the other hand, I have quit listening to Glenn Beck and Mark Levin because, although Levin has lightened up with the NeverTrump nonsense, he rarely offers any information that I don't already have and I don't respect his opinions. The importance of any sources of actual news is to keep ourselves informed so that the things we say in conversation, here, or on Facebook, is informed.

    Fortunately, I believe that there are fewer people today who depend on MSNBC or CNN for their news, and those who do are probably going to be voting Democrat anyhow.
     
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    Snopes is on the job: http://www.snopes.com/khizr-khan-is-...herhood-agent/
     
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    What you say is all true, Ken.

    That's why Trump has to work extra hard and not make stupid mistakes.

    He's got the vote of the people that liked his brash style so now he needs to focus on the issues and take it down a notch.
     
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    All good information as I knew very little about this guy. And all I heard in the media were attacks on Trump. Hillary is a weasle and only uses the parts of the story she likes.
     
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    I don't know what the real story is and that's not my point anyway. Trump needs to handle these things better than
    The way he is responding now. Did you read his tweets? Immature.

    Trump needs to secure the vote of people like me, he's got your vote already. I need to see him act more presidential and professional, not fly off the handle like a spoiled brat who didn't get his way.

    STOP tweeting! Learn the issues better and talk about those not the fire Marshall.

    I don't think you are getting my point. He won't win with just the for sure voters and even those might waver at the last minute.
     
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    In my opinion it was the way Trump handled it. He flies off the handle and has a hissy fit and tweets something stupid.

    Trump should have kept quiet, done his homework and responded in a normal fashion, not attack the wife and make insinuations as to why she's not talking....that didn't score points with me.
     
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    That's the sort of thing that is organized entirely by the Hillary campaign, and signed by a few Gold Star parents who already supported Hillary, and who wouldn't be voting for Trump anyhow. There are very few actual grassroots efforts anymore.
     
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    That's too bad, this way it makes it look like you all agree.

    Of course 23 is really a small number...but it will get lots of press.

    This is why I hate politics, it's so unfair.
     
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    My heart goes out to anyone who would give up his life for a country he loves. Having said that it is a real shame that these poor men/women that gave up their lives for a country who lied to them and took them to their deaths. The soldiers who gave up their lives fighting in the Vietnam, Afghanistan, Iraq, Libya, Syria, and all the other places that these troops went all on a lie from their government. Now they want to back the queen of lies so more can be killed. When will they ever learn? This is the elite’s game and these soldiers are the pawns that will be sacrificed to save the queen.
     
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    I did see this in response but I didn't check it out for the source, but it was well said.


    Dear Mr. Khan,

    I want to preface this letter by stating that I respect your son’s sacrifice for this great nation. By all accounts, he is a true hero that sacrificed himself in service to our country. For that I am thankful.

    As a veteran, I watched your comments at the Democratic National Convention with a mixture of sadness, and anger. The United States has a military comprised of volunteers. Every single member has made the conscious choice to join the military and serve. There is not a single service member who has been forced into service. It is important for all service members (and apparently, their families) to understand that service to this great nation does not imbue one with special privileges or rights. I found your comments troubling when you said: “Have you ever been to Arlington cemetery? Go look at the graves of brave patriots who died defending the United States of America. You will see all faiths, genders and ethnicities. You have sacrificed nothing and no one.”

    Does it matter whether Mr. Trump has sacrificed “…nothing and no one?”…has Ms. Clinton “..sacrificed” for this nation? How about Mr. Obama? Your comment stating that Mr. Trump “…has sacrifice no one” is alarming. Are you intimating that YOU sacrificed? Sir, your son willingly sacrificed himself. As a father I cannot imagine the pain you must feel but his sacrifice is his own. He was not forced to serve.

    I am troubled that you would allow a party that has little more than contempt for the US Service Member to parade you into the DNC to denounce Donald Trump. Did you watch when protesters at the DNC booed and heckled Medal of Honor recipient Capt. Florent Groberg? Did you notice your party interrupting the moment of silence for slain police officers? Your own hypocrisy in not denouncing these acts and instead using the DNC as a platform to make a political point is disgraceful. The simple fact is that whether one served or sacrificed does not give greater power to their statements. One vote is as valuable as another. That sir, is why our Country is great. Your condemnation of one person for a statement while standing idly as your party disparages veterans and police officers is the height of hypocrisy.

    To conflate the need to prevent potential terrorists from entering our country with the belief that ‘all Muslims’ should be banned is simply wrong and disingenuous. As a reminder, Mr. Trump said: ” “Until we are able to determine and understand this problem and the dangerous threat it poses, our country cannot be the victims of horrendous attacks by people that believe only in Jihad, and have no sense of reason or respect for human life,” The irony of your son’s own death at the hands of these very people in Iraq should not be ignored. I have little doubt that your son would have recognized the need to protect our country from these very people. In fact, he held is own troops back so that he could check on a suspicious car. Your son understood sacrifice and how to protect “his people”…’his soldiers’….’his fellow Americans’…

    As you continue to make the media circuit and bask in the glow of affection cast upon you by a party that has little regard for your son’s own sacrifice, and veterans in general, I would ask you to consider your comments and your position more closely.

    Respectfully,

    Chris Mark

    US Marine and Navy Veteran.


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