Diplomatic Incident

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  1. Tom Galty

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    What a shame. I have often wondered why there is "diplomatic immunity" for anything. If someone commits a crime they should have to pay the consequences. I hope this will be handled correctly for that grieving family.
     
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    If the situation were reversed, and a British envoy fled to the UK, would immunity be waived? I would hope that he would look at what the norms are and make sure that our citizens and envoys are treated in the same manner before subjecting the US envoy to extradition. Diplomatic immunity gets foreign envoys out of pretty much everything in this country, so we should expect no less.
     
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    The 'Mother' was so understanding, not sure I would be
    Its the decent thing to do to face the music - its not like she'll go to jail !
    Diplomats should not have immunity for 'everything' :rolleyes:
    I hope, at least - a meeting will take place with the 'Mother' to give her some peace of mind
     
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    We don't know the answer to that do we …….. I would hope it wouldn't and I'm sure there would be an outcry from the people
    that it wouldn't be waived.
     
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    @Bob Kirk Interesting read. Thanks for posting the link.

    Based on that, shouldn't she then face those charges within the USA? Truthfully, the UK fines or even jail, is much lower than the same crime in the USA. She would have fared better facing it there.
     
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    It doesn't make sense to me. If she was drunk or something, why should she not be tried for the wreck that killed the young man? If it was an unavoidable accident, she should be cleared.
     
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    The way that explanation reads she would be tried in America.

    Lets say just for example sake this accident took place where drinking was a crime all by itself. The punishment was 10 years in prison. Prison conditions far below what either the UK or American standards are.

    My reason for thinking that makes sense is that laws in other countries & their legal systems are set up for their citizens
    Speaking for myself I'd want a family member if guilty to be incarcerated in America.
     
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    @Bob Kirk That makes total sense. I never looked at it that way.
     
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    I don't understand how she could be tried in America...?? Who would press charges? Who would provide the proof, etc? I have heard of people being extradited to be tried in the country where the crime was committed but apparently that wouldn't apply as long as there is diplomatic immunity.
     
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    If you've ever watched a police series on television, nearly all of them have dealt with diplomatic immunity at some point, given that it's a hot-button issue. There are reasons for it but, of course, that doesn't make for perfect situations, particularly when it is abused. Keep in mind that if there was no such thing as diplomatic immunity, diplomats and their families would be subject to the laws and penalties of whatever country they are serving in, and that might include such crimes as women failing to cover their heads, possessing an asthma inhaler, eating on a church steps, or the failure to carry a portable breathalyzer, and others that are outright crazy, and which might be particularly apt to be enforced whenever there are tensions between two countries.
     
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    The victim's Mother just wants to meet with the lady - not too much to ask
    She 'understands' which says a lot for her character, at least show some dignity and meet with her
     
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    O dear O dear.
    The British don't flee.

    Point is if you have immunity then why flee.

    Stay and at the inquest put your point of how it happened to explain to the victims mother what happened so she can close this

    Ps hope she does not join your army she will run at the first time of trouble.
     
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    Its a good point
     
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