Combative People

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  1. Cody Fousnaugh

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    Unfortunately, there are so many "dislikes" in today's society. About the only times "dislikes" aren't seen is Easter, Thanksgiving and Christmas. Then again, as many law enforcement officers will say "no matter what holiday it is, crime goes on". Very true.

    To many things are going on, and have gone on, to have the "Love one another" (John 13:34) to really exist that much today. And that in itself, is very, very unfortunate, but so, so true. To a certain point, society is making "Love one another" not happen.
     
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    Sort of believe it, sort of not. But, then again, "society", in general, can definitely be that way. But, has society ever been "that" friendly? Small towns, very small cities, yes (and I've seen it), but all of the big major cities in America, well..............

    Farmers and ranchers are always helping each other out. Then again, they don't care much what goes on in big cities just like big cities don't care what goes on in the farming/ranching communities.
     
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    The glue that holds 'society' together is helpfulness. The sad thing is that now we expect the government to do everything. We don't have to even SEE our neighbors. We can just think about ourselves.
    We were a bunch of pretty small towns when I moved to Wisconsin 50 years ago. The most annoying thing about them was everyone knew everyone's business, although that was good in a crisis. Second was that if you were not from here nor related to anyone, you were basically shunned to start with.
    Now my 'town' has grown into a small city. With the increase in population, crime has increase substantially. It behooves us to get involved.
     
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    couldn't agree with you more. having spent most of the last two years assembling, then taking care of off grid sites in central wisconsin and the upper peninsula michigan, i get this all the time. the younger crowd mistake me for 'cityfolk' and the old timers have the burden of their upbringing to contend with. not so much around the larger towns and cities.... but in the hartland that trust is hard earned.
     
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    Sort of funny, but when wife and I go into some "Western" type town, like Laramie, Wyoming, we were fully accepted. Why? We looked a whole lot like the residents that live there, as in wearing western clothes, including the old cowboy hat.

    Seems like people are easier to get along with if you look/dress like them. Just our opinion and past experience. That's why we only wore our western clothes three times, in 10 1/2 years living in Jacksonville, Florida. During those 10 1/2 years, we only seen one guy, at an IHop down the street from us, that was wearing a cowboy hat. I was pretty amazed and talked to him about it.
     
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    it just may be the crowd you hang with... got into a little snafu during my surfing days at jax beach. back then things were quite a bit different and being a chicagoan, the mason dixon line had no significance. i accidentally outed a couple of our crew as gay and either their lives were in danger or i was a liar. what i understand is that "being cowboy" is a thing now in certain circles.


    “Homos on the Range”
     
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    My daughters roommates arrived. She is the hermaphrodite that I have spoken of. At the moment, she is trying to be in a He state. Anyway she/he is looking for a job. She was in communication for a month before she came about a job at an art studio in Oshkosh. She went up for her face to face interview. But, presently, she is a he with a scruffy beard, 450 lbs, with piercings and rainbow hair. I gently told my daughter that her appearance might be why she did not get the job. You should try to fit in, first, before self expression. We probably won't say anything.
    JMHO
     
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    Well, Mary, "self expression" sure can get young people in trouble today, especially when it comes to getting a descent job. Some of todays young adults see Post Malone, Machine Gun Kelly, Justin Bieber and, for whatever reasons, want to look like them.

    Self-expression is ok, but today those words go way, way, way overboard.

    We have a great-niece that, after being married, annulled and sleeping with another woman, she announced to her parents that she was bi-sexual. Then, later, she told her parents that she was going to marry the woman she slept with. They married, but she keeps very little contact with the family. As for wife and I, no contact whatsoever anymore.
     
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    Yvonne,

    I love your post. Spot-on home-run. So true.

    Two areas where combative people have appeared most in my life are religion and politics. I try to avoid discussions in this area because too many people go into a survival mode if you take an opposing view. What seems to be at stake for them is the survival of a belief, a challenge to their model of the world.

    I can remember an incident in the Catholic high-school where I went. I was discussing a Catholic dogma with a school-mate AD. Everything was okay until I made a good point, to which AD promptly shut down the whole discussion by saying "Stop talking. I don't want to lose my faith."

    I think the foregoing type of fear may apply to combative people. They seem to have too much invested in some belief. Let's face it. On a bell-shaped curve, people's attitude ranges from completely closed-minded (ugh) to fully open-minded (yippie). I think we are on the right side of the curve.

    Incidentally, I raised my daughters from an early age with the guideline that every complicated problem has more than one right answer. Often, it's the second or third right answer that you can come up that is the best solution. Fortunately, my daughters get it. Now we can enjoy opposing discussions on religion and politics looking for that second or third right answer.
     
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    Cody the last rodio we went to was in Jax, rual area. Of Couse it has all changed now and a very danerous city to live in. Very high crime, since 1970s-80s.
     
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    Imagine that?:D Well at least you didn't say she smokes too.:)
    My first granddaughter the apple of my eye is a lesbian, but they don't flaunt it around any of us. At first I didn't speak to her for 3 years, we both cried those 3 years. Kids will teach you to live and let live more so if they are family.

    I think we all can be combatant at times. Some more so than others but we are all guilty of it.
     
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    I don't think how someone dresses or looks has anything to do with being combative. I think combat arises over an issue where one side closes its mind to the discussion.
     
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    My aunt who was born in 1905 was a very wise lady who lived thru a lot. She told us stories about people and life,at times quoting the Bible other times just using stories. Below is one of them[ if I can rememebr it correctly],

    There was a man who lived in a town where people were just bad, so he moved to another town, soon the people there started acting bad too, so he moved again. This became a pattern with him and when he told his story to someone, he was ask if he ever considered that it was him and not all those people he ran from. [ hope I got her point across].
    I try to use this when I think I feel I'm being mistreated by others, maybe it was something I did or didn't do to bring it on.
     
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