Breaking: Shooting In Orlando Leave 50 Gays Dead

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  1. Gary Ridenour

    Gary Ridenour Very Well-Known Member
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    well the senate is voting on gun control and its failed

    DEVELOPING: A series of dueling gun control measures in the Senate were defeated Monday evening in the first proposed legislation in the wake of the Orlando terror attack.

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    Yet another eyewitness in Orlando shooting; MULTIPLE GUNMEN
     
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    I think it was a fake. look at all the people carried out. any blood?? one single drop maybe?? also what happened to the dead?? why didn't they bring them out?? or did they take them out the back or was there really any dead at all. I saw a guy carried out wearing read shoes. after getting past the camera they sit him down.



    ever hear of pallywood??
     
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    @Martin Alonzo

    See, Martin, what you describe is called by our media and "leaders" "vigilante" mentality. They want no public involvement in law enforcement operations. They always, though, fail to recognize the following: When seconds count, the Police are only an hour away.
     
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    One of the things that has come out about the Orlando shooter was that he was able to have his gun permit because he worked for a special security agency called G4S, which is a very large company and is said to be multi-national. Although this has been in some of the online news stories, very little has actually been said about it.
    Another incredbly interesting coincidence is that the man who shot and killed the singer Christina Grimmie also worked for the same international security company.
    Both men , as well as other working for the G4S security company, were said to be recently involved in a massive military demonstration drill in Florida just a short time ago, where they pretended that the governor had been kidnapped and they rescued him.
    What that company does here (under the control of the Secretary of State) is to manage all of the illegal aliens coming into the United States.
    Since Hillary is the Secretary of State, this could put her into yet another scandal of all of this information comes out into the mainstream news somehow.
     
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    @Yvonne Smith So much derog has now been brought to light, both past and present activity, it is difficult for me to imagine that the faintest ray of hope exists for Hillary. OTOH, I swore before the election, the chance of Bill being elected to a 2nd. term was ZERO.
     
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    The thing is unless something is done about gun control this won't be the last attack I am sorry to say. We can blame terrorist and there is no doubt in my mind that there is blame to go here. But was it made difficult for this man to get an assault weapon, no it wasn't. This is someone who was on a list as a person of interest yet somehow got access to something that could cause great harm in the wrong hands. How many times were we going to hear such a story before action is taken? I have no issue with the second amendment to the constitution that gives us to right to bear arms but news flash that amendment doesn't cover assault weapons that can fire off so many round in less than a minute that its mind boggling. If an individual wants to purchase an average hand gun or hunting rifle fine, I am still no thrilled because these can still do harm in the wrong hands, but no harm of this magnitude. For me the only ones who should have access to these type of assault weapons are military personnel or specialized SWAT teams no one else, not even regular police officers and certainly not the general public. I don't see any reason why anyone else would need these other than wrecking havoc, but that is just my opinion.
     
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    Two words.... Black Market. Fodder for thought?
     
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    That's exactly the opinion they are trying to achieve
     
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    Those guns are not for hunting, they are for the protection of the home in the case some of us are right.
     
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    @Hannah Davis

    "don't see any reason why anyone else would need these other than wrecking havoc, but that is just my opinion."

    What seems to be misinterpreted, and quite often, is that a great percentage of "hunting" use firearms can instantly become "high capacity" weapons, no different in that respect than "assault" weapons. The only difference is that most assault weapons are black, a ridiculous difference which has been used, mainly by politicians, to differentiate between hunting rifles and assault rifles.

    Any firearm using a magazine to load it's ammunition is capable of carrying and firing the same number of rounds as an AR-15, for example. This fact was used as a reason to ban all magazines of over 10-round capacity in 1993 for 10 years, with the stipulation that results of that ban be reviewed by Congress regarding it's effectiveness in reducing criminal firearms use. Congress ignored that stipulation in 2003, and the ban ended, with all of us wondering exactly what it had achieved. Meanwhile, some states as well as municipalities have banned high capacity magazines. Effectiveness of such bans is dubious, if not nonexistent. Literally billions of high-capacity magazines are in existence within the "gun culture" of our country. They were grandfathered during the 10 year ban, and propagation of newly manufactured magazines has since 2003 virtually flooded the culture with magazines. Think they impossible to obtain in those places having banned them? Difficult to obtain? Frank
     
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    Are you serious? This guy was reported to the FBI more than once and they made the assumption that the person reporting him was a bigot and refused to follow up on it. A gun dealer also reported him later because he was trying to buy body armor and the gun dealer considered him to be suspicious. Probably because he was Muslim, they refused to follow up on it. He was a security guard often contracted to Homeland Security, so he would have had access to a gun regardless. The laws that are already in place would have prevented this guy from having access to a gun but, because of our current Administration's refusal to consider Islam as a potential threat, having a relation to terrorism, no one would follow up on any of it. So your solution is to take guns away from people who aren't dangerous? Really?
     
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    According to Judge Andrew Napolitano, who usually makes sense, no one died in Orlando until after the SWAT team entered the building. I don't have live television so I haven't watched his show, so this is what I have on it. The soundbite that is included is from Fox News, however.

     
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