9-11 Conspiracies

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  1. Ken Anderson

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    I tried to move a few posts from the Brussels bombing thread in the News section to a 9-11 Conspiracies thread here, where it belongs, in the Conspiracies section but, in the process, I inadvertently merged a few posts by different people together. Rather than leaving a post from a few different people under the name of one person, I decided to delete them and start thread here for 9-11 conspiracy stuff.
     
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    My wife and I went on a cruise at the end of August, 2001, coming back just a few days before the attacks on the World Trade Center. Since the cruise was to begin in Florida, we drove to Portland, where we caught a plane to Florida, changing planes in New York.

    On I-95, between Millinocket and Bangor, all traffic moving south was stopped, and I have never seen this done here before or since. The state police were there, along with the border patrol and INS, and there were a lot of them, state and federal, including some whose insignias I couldn't read. Every car had to drive in to what is normally a little-used weigh station. There were dogs there, as well.

    A state cop came up to our car, while a border patrol or INS cop stood off to the side, and someone else walked around the car with the dog. We were asked for our driver's license, but not our registration. We were asked to confirm our residence, how long we have lived there, and if we had traveled out of the country in the past five years. They asked where we were going and when we intended to return. Then we were told that we could proceed. I noticed that some people were asked to leave their cars, and were being questioned off to the side, I presume.

    Catching the plane to New York was not a problem but when we got to LaGuardia, I noticed that everyone who even looked like they might be Muslim was being taken aside. I even mentioned to my wife that I was glad we weren't Muslim because it didn't look like they were going anywhere. We weren't stopped though, and we got to the waiting area for our departure gate.

    While we were sitting there, a man in a pilot's uniform sat down next to us. His uniform was for an airline that I had heard of but I don't remember what it was now. At first, we thought that he might be our pilot but he was with another airline. He seemed very distressed, and looked like he had been crying. I couldn't tell what race he was, but his ethnicity was definitely not Caucasian. He received a call on his cell phone. After answering, he listened for what seemed like a long time, then spoke very rapidly in a language that sounded like a Middle Eastern language, possibly Arabic. Remember that 9-11 had not occurred yet, so I wasn't attuned to that. After the phone call, he seemed even more agitated than before.

    My wife began speaking to him, since she was sitting between him and me. He explained that he was deadheading on our flight to Florida, that he worked for another airline, but that they had a policy of allowing other pilots to travel for free in the pilot's cabin. Then he got another call, and it seemed like a repeat of the first. Again, he began crying after the call was completed. Later, he spoke to us again, and seemed to be relieved to be talking about something other than whatever it was that was on his mind. He told us about how planes can avoid turbulence and some other stuff that I don't remember, but it was clear that he was indeed a pilot.

    Then the boarding call came, and we got on the plane. The rest of the trip was uneventful, there and back, although it was a nice cruise.

    My point in mention this here is that this was just over a week before 9-11, and it seemed like the federal government was looking for someone driving north on I-95, which is the path that the 9-11 hijackers took after crossing Canada into Maine. They also caught their planes at the Portland Airport.

    I don't know what it means, but I do believe that the government knew something was going to happen and had an idea as to how it was going to come about. That does not, however, mean that they were guilt of anything. I don't believe that we have been told the truth about 9-11 but then, I don't believe we're told the truth about anything. Like the Kennedy assassination, there are a lot of things that just don't add up, and such is the making of a conspiracy theory.
     
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  3. Chrissy Cross

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    I don't see anything off in your post, Ken. Maybe the govt heard some chatter about it and maybe it was to happen the week before. After checking everything out they saw that nothing panned out and that was that and in the meantime the terrorists saw that they were being watched and changed the date to the following week.
     
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    That's quite possible. There are, I think, valid questions as to how the buildings came down. I'm watched several controlled demolitions because they were demolishing several large older buildings in Long Beach while I was living there, and the Trade Towers did come down just like a controlled demolition. Building Seven is also a valid question, I think. There are others as well and, while I share the questions, I don't necessary share the answers given in some of the conspiracy theories.
     
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    No, I mean what you wrote doesnt suggest a conspiracy to me.
     
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    Here is two videos that ask better questions than me


     
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    I do believe that 9/11 was the result of a Conspiracy (An agreement to perform together an illegal, treacherous, or evil act). Although I cannot name any names here, I believe it is a fact that this evil act was commited by America's enemies...whether or not those enemies were foreign or domestic. I will even go as far as saying I believe that those enemies of 9/11 were both foreign and domestic. To me it would have been impossible for everything to have come together as smoothly as it did in this conspiracy without those working here behind the scenes putting into place a conspiracy plan drawn up and pulled together by our enemies both here and abroad. Who was the Master Mind behind it all? Was there more than one Master Mind? I wish I knew the answer to this. I do believe that the Master Mind or Minds that planned and carried out this conspiracy are still alive and planning more evil acts on America. The ones who have died to carry out these plans were nothing but "puppets" manipulated by the Master Mind/Minds. Their Agenda is to destroy America and they have an endless supply of "puppets" they will use to try and reach this goal.
     
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    After I read what you wrote, the American that would benefit and had the money to do this can only be Trump.

    A fear of Muslims and terrorists works well for his bid for President. It all fits. And I was going to vote for him. :(

    And don't think I'm being silly, Babs because after I read what you wrote that's the first thing that popped into my head.
     
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    No theory is ever silly if we believe it, @Chrissy Page . As for rich Americans who may benefit in some way (some I could figure out, some not)... a lot of people have more money than Trump. I know he's not in the top 10... not sure where he falls. So who would benefit? (I'm taxing my memory here... I sure don't know all the top ten, but the few that come to mind:

    Bezos, Gates, Buffet, Zuckerberg, Bloomberg (hmmm... also presidential aspirations for a while), Walton family... a few Koch's, also political. Soros (political?) Well anyhow, a lot of people would be able to fund just about anything. But I'd say not Trump. He's actually small potatoes in the world of wealth.
     
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    Yes, but he's the only one that makes any sense to me. Terrorists have enough money without ours in my opinion.
     
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    Chrissy
    Awww...all I can say is God loves you Chrissy...and so do I. :)
     
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    You mean because of the presidential run? Or something else? A number of the top rich guys were either in the race for a while or fund those who are (Soros/Kasich for one.) Bloomburg.... BUT I don't know if that's what you meant or not, so if I'm totally off-base, I apologize and will listen to your theory. Oh also, what would Trump have to gain... especially in '01?

    If anyone was involved (I'd say "no way, no how" but that's my opinion) :) then they may want to look around Hillary. Not like there weren't shady things going on with her back then. Hubby leaves office in Jan 2001... 9-11 in Sept. 2001. Hmmm. Just making the point that if I really sit down and think about it, many people had motive if one believes that conspiracy. I personally don't.
     
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    Kind of rude Babs, you can say americans were involved in 911 and when I say Trump came to mind you respond with what you did??

    So, what you meant was Americans except Trump.
     
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    You have got my brain box going here @Mari North. In another post you mentioned Hillary. Soros has been backing the Clintons for some time now, and as most people know, George Soros holds dual citizenships: Hungary and the U.S. ....... Hungary is another almost Republic that doesn't necessarily get along well with the U.S. and Soros has some major investments in the Middle East.
    If I remember right, after 9/11 Osama Bin Laden's money was frozen but he still had to have some coming in so he could make his payroll. Ya think maybe Soros and the Clintons helped him out a little?

    Sorry guys, I just couldn't help but have a tad bit of fun, but.........think of the possibilities.................
     
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    Chrissy, God does love you and so do I. I'm truly sorry if you think that is rude. It certainly wasn't said in that way nor was that my intention.

    I certainly did not say Americans were involved in 9/11. I said I believed "domestics" were involved in this conspiracy. It is a fact that everyone who lives here in America is no American...and that is being proven more and more each day when they are the ones trying to demolish our Constitutional Rights, our America that used to be "One Nation Under God", and when they try to destroy our democractic freedom! Trump is the only Candidate running who is standing up against those trying to destroy what America stands for...therefore he is the one I cast my vote for. And he is the only one besides God who I think will try to stand up against those evil ones both here and abroad who is doing their best to destroy the America "We the People" live in.
     
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    If ya never open the brain box, it's gonna get rusty, @Bobby Cole . But seriously, I hadn't realized until I was writing that, that it WAS Jan 20, 2001 when Clinton left... it was kind of chilling. I didn't know about Soros backing them, but that name keeps coming up.. and he *is* in the top 10. The Middle East investments... I'm getting quite the education tonight, and I'm not liking what comes up as possibilities. But... my goodness!
     
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    The News has not hidden Soro's involvement in trying to keep Trump from the Presidency...that is probably one of the few things they have not been biased about...even though they may have not "known" this fact. Soros in my opinion is one who thinks he is going to rule the World. Who knows...he may even end up being the "antichrist" of the last days.
     
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    Oh boy. Hold on there. Did you just put God and Donald Trump as sole partners in defending our country? Uh.... I was with ya 'til that part but... the only one besides God? Nope, that's where you lost me. Donald Trump is not the only candidate who is not trying to destroy America or would stand up for her. I just can't grasp that line of thinking.

    For the record, I personally consider the definition of "domestics" to mean Americans.
     
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    Ah, but the plot thickens. Soros also donated 900K to Kasich during his Ohio run in the primaries while at the same time supporting Clinton.
    Oh what a tangled web we weave................
     
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    And that was only to keep Trump from the Presidency! Soros has and will sell his soul to satan for a chance at world domination with himself at the helm!
     
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    I cannot honestly believe that the Trade Towers were taken down by the planes that were flown into them, and I certainly can't believe that Building 7 crumbled out of a feeling of empathy for the other two buildings. The buildings came down as they do in a controlled demolition. I do believe that those who have benefited the most from the events of 9/11/01 are those who benefit from the erosion of individual liberties and the perpetuation of continuous war. Beyond that, I don't know what to think.
     
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    Let's put it this way Mari...God doesn't need a partner...and He is the only one who can really "save" America. But it seems that He is allowing Trump to "bring forth the corruption, etc. that was hid from Americans for way to long...and I have no problem with that. Who God is going to allow to live in the White House come November is His decision. I only know that Trump is the only one who is "bold" enough to speak the truth...even when I hate the way it comes out his mouth.
     
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    Exactly. And if it's not Trump, you'll feel the same? Life rarely just offers one solution. For the record, I like Trump and hope he makes it, but I'd not catch myself making statements about him being the only solution.
     
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    Well actually I've made the statement that only Jesus can "save" America and the world...but God can has been using Donald Trump to "bellow" out the truth here...and until God stirs me up in another direction...Trump is my vote. Does that mean come November he will be my vote? That depends on what the Holy Spirit tells me. I do not put my trust in man...only God. I love knowing I can speak my mind as to what I believe....and that I can admit I have changed my mind when I am convinced it should be changed.
     
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