Is "Old" age creeping up on you?

All the different religions and beliefs; who's to know what the truth is. My father was having a theological discussion with my mother's brother about the afterlife. My mother's people are Mormon, and they believe that if you make it to heaven, you will recognize your loved ones already there.

My father said, "So you get to heaven and look around. You don't see your deceased brother, child, or your mother. Apparently they didn't make the cut. Realizing the people you love most are not there, are you in heaven?"

I have no problem with what people personally believe; that belongs to them. I don't argue religion because I don't feel that I have any answers for myself. I envy true believers but I wonder how many people actually are true believers... and how many are simply hopeful. Not that there's anything wrong with hope.
 
Yeah. Hard to get any words out. My own thoughts on things are not as clear as I used to think. It does feel like fear or dread but perhaps I'm fooling myself.

I feel mentally sharp enough, no "brain fog" or anything. But the words aren't flowing, I feel as if it is necessary to dumb everything down so much and meanwhile people seem as triggerable as a purple-haired, face-pierced fatty carrying an ICE-protest sign.

Is this what 70 feels like? I'm within days myself now. I just found out that yes, I will get my first SSA benefit payment this month after all. Woo-hoo! What is it, 83 months until the severe cuts begin when the Trust Fund has been emptied?

Grr. I did the math. I had to sign in and opt for 22% income tax withholding. "Singles" really get screwed on taxes and Medicare.
 
Beth Gallagher said:
I have no problem with what people personally believe; that belongs to them. I don't argue religion because I don't feel that I have any answers for myself. I envy true believers but I wonder how many people actually are true believers... and how many are simply hopeful. Not that there's anything wrong with hope.
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I don't see anything to argue about. Conflict over something I see as unknowable myself feels pointless. Why express doubt? "Believers" might be pretty precarious, and if their "hope" is undermined... for all I know they might go nuts and lash out one way or another harming themselves or others.

I have probably overstepped just by saying this much though. Sorry.
 
Jacob Petersheim said:
I don't see anything to argue about. Conflict over something I see as unknowable myself feels pointless. Why express doubt? "Believers" might be pretty precarious, and if their "hope" is undermined... for all I know they might go nuts and lash out one way or another harming themselves or others.

I have probably overstepped just by saying this much though. Sorry.
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I probably should have quoted Jake's post that I was replying to, Jacob. He asked if we thought we'd see people and pets that died before us when we die. So naturally I blathered on in my usual fashion. :D. What do you think? Will we meet our loved ones again?

You haven't overstepped at all. I enjoy your posts so keep sharing. It's nice to hear other points of view.
 
Jacob Petersheim said:
Yeah. Hard to get any words out. My own thoughts on things are not as clear as I used to think. It does feel like fear or dread but perhaps I'm fooling myself.

I feel mentally sharp enough, no "brain fog" or anything. But the words aren't flowing, I feel as if it is necessary to dumb everything down so much and meanwhile people seem as triggerable as a purple-haired, face-pierced fatty carrying an ICE-protest sign.

Is this what 70 feels like? I'm within days myself now. I just found out that yes, I will get my first SSA benefit payment this month after all. Woo-hoo! What is it, 83 months until the severe cuts begin when the Trust Fund has been emptied?

Grr. I did the math. I had to sign in and opt for 22% income tax withholding. "Singles" really get screwed on taxes and Medicare.
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Well, 70 felt pretty much like 69 to me. I didn't get any goofier and I still look the same... at least what of me I can see around the cataract. (Maybe it's best that things are a little fuzzy.)
 
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Jacob Petersheim said:
Yeah. Hard to get any words out. My own thoughts on things are not as clear as I used to think. It does feel like fear or dread but perhaps I'm fooling myself.

I feel mentally sharp enough, no "brain fog" or anything. But the words aren't flowing, I feel as if it is necessary to dumb everything down so much and meanwhile people seem as triggerable as a purple-haired, face-pierced fatty carrying an ICE-protest sign.

Is this what 70 feels like? I'm within days myself now. I just found out that yes, I will get my first SSA benefit payment this month after all. Woo-hoo! What is it, 83 months until the severe cuts begin when the Trust Fund has been emptied?

Grr. I did the math. I had to sign in and opt for 22% income tax withholding. "Singles" really get screwed on taxes and Medicare.
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My thoughts and communication skills aren't as clear as they use to be neither. Words and names don't come to me as easily as they use to, damn it! :rolleyes: It's just part of getting older.

Like Beth said, 70 doesn't feel any different then 69. It's just a whole number. :D
 
Beth Gallagher said:
I'd love to believe that I will see my parents and my brother again, but truthfully I don't. I have said before that I believe death will be exactly as it was before we were born; just nothing. I have always had a problem with trying to figure out the logistics of "afterlife" and just how spirits (?) will be drifting about forever.

I just can't wrap my head around the concept of heaven or any of it, no matter how hard I try. I suppose I don't find the concept of living forever to be appealing at all but that's just me.
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I actually believe in pre-existence as well as life after death. But I refuse to believe in reincarnation cuz I don't wanna do this again without remembering.
 
I don't talk about religion much. I used to enjoy people's beliefs when I was younger, but have reformed. I found that many who think they are very devout have no depth to their faith, so now I keep everything to myself unless somebody attacks someone else's beliefs. I now always say that I do not want to be the guy with a millstone around my neck and cast in the sea.
 
Don Alaska said:
I don't talk about religion much. I used to enjoy people's beliefs when I was younger, but have reformed. I found that many who think they are very devout have no depth to their faith, so now I keep everything to myself unless somebody attacks someone else's beliefs. I now always say that I do not want to be the guy with a millstone around my neck and cast in the sea.
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Me too; fill the same way. I was telling Marie today, on the way to the ER, keep politics and religion to yourself. Some things are better. left "unsaid", IMO.
 
Beth Gallagher said:
"All we are is dust in the wind."

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Lots of NDE vids on youtube. I love the ones by Vinnie Tollman. But there are so many that I would find them difficult to believe.
When I awoke the morning of my first husband's sudden death, I could feel him and tried not to answer the door when a policeman was banging on it to tell me that he had died. We had a very special bond.
I have had a few 'contacts' in my life. So I believe our bodies will be just dust in the wind but our soul does go on.
 
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Beth Gallagher said:
"All we are is dust in the wind."

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Those of us who have paranormal experiences know this is not true, but most don't have them so I do understand.
In other words, there is a spirit world, for sure, but not so much like the Biblical one's. Seeing and hearing things as they happen in time to change the outcome, one was our cat in a tree, the other was son calling for me hundreds of miles away when he was in serious condition so much so he passed for a couple minutes.
Our cat was pregnant and we are spending night at friends when I woke up and told Jake the cats having kittens up on a building we need to go home now, I just saw the kittens falling didn't know it was a tree.
One in my vision was still in it's sack and dead that I saw. so we got up and took off to the house, we got to the tree, Jake climbed up and I saw the kitten on the ground and Said " look Jake cats still in it's afterbirth like my dream, Jake said did you dream I feel out of this damn tree?
We saved the cat but not ger kittens, premature.
Antway
 
Marie Mallory said:
Those of us who have paranormal experiences know this is not true, but most don't have them so I do understand.
In other words, there is a spirit world, for sure, but not so much like the Biblical one's. Seeing and hearing things as they happen in time to change the outcome, one was our cat in a tree, the other was son calling for me hundreds of miles away when he was in serious condition so much so he passed for a couple minutes.
Our cat was pregnant and we are spending night at friends when I woke up and told Jake the cats having kittens up on a building we need to go home now, I just saw the kittens falling didn't know it was a tree.
One in my vision was still in it's sack and dead that I saw. so we got up and took off to the house, we got to the tree, Jake climbed up and I saw the kitten on the ground and Said " look Jake cats still in it's afterbirth like my dream, Jake said did you dream I feel out of this damn tree?
We saved the cat but not ger kittens, premature.
Antway
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That's so interesting, Marie. All my experiences like that have come through animals, too.

For example, my friend had a young healthy Great Dane. She and her dog lived in another state and I hadn't talked to her in months. Then one night I dreamed about her dog running through a field of flowers, woke up and knew it was dead. I called my friend the next day and, sure enough, she had the dog spayed the day before, and it threw a blood clot in the night and died.

I agree with you that we have souls that go on even if our bodies are dust in the wind.

I am a Christian. I can't remember a time when I didn't believe in God, long before the influences of school, or TV, and even though my parents weren't the sort to be talking the talk all the time.
 
Andie White said:
That's so interesting, Marie. All my experiences like that have come through animals, too.

For example, my friend had a young healthy Great Dane. She and her dog lived in another state and I hadn't talked to her in months. Then one night I dreamed about her dog running through a field of flowers, woke up and knew it was dead. I called my friend the next day and, sure enough, she had the dog spayed the day before, and it threw a blood clot in the night and died.

I agree with you that we have souls that go on even if our bodies are dust in the wind.

I am a Christian. I can't remember a time when I didn't believe in God, long before the influences of school, or TV, and even though my parents weren't the sort to be talking the talk all the time.
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Andie once you have these experiences you can't deny the spirit world, which I believe is of the heavens.
Others have them too just like you and I.
 
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