How have your political views changed over time, or have they?

Ken Anderson

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In my childhood, I paid no attention to politics. If I thought about them at all, politicians were like actors on television or characters in a book. They weren't real people to me, and, to some extent, that might have been a realistic outlook.

The first time I realized that not everyone felt that way was when President Kennedy was assassinated. Our teacher was called out of the room for a while. When she returned, along with the principal, she was crying. The principal announced that President Kennedy had been assassinated, and that school would be let out for the rest of the day. Later, as we were waiting for the buses, I made what I thought was a joke to the extent that I hoped they shot him again tomorrow, because we were getting out of school early, and nobody laughed. I was twelve, and I knew that I didn't have a future in stand-up comedy, although that kind of comedy would work today, it seems.

I became more aware, or interested, in politics during high school, eventually becoming involved in the antiwar movement. Although I wasn't aware of a single student in my high school who held that position, or even very many who did drugs, beer being the drug of choice at Stephenson High School in the 1960s, I had friends in Menominee (Michigan) and Marinette (Wisconsin), and, while I did have friends in SHS, my closest friends were in Menominee or Marinette.

In a sense, I can say that I participated in the 1968 Democrat Convention demonstrations in Chicago. I was 16 then, and I hitchhiked to Chicago for that purpose. However, I was arrested waiting for a crosswalk light soon after arriving in Chicago, and locked up with some scary people until my older brother came to get me. I was 16, then. I was held for about three days during the 1971 May Day demonstrations in Washington, D.C. The plan for that demonstration was for participants to leave their identification at home and refuse to identify themselves so as to clog up the system, and, indeed, we were held in the old Washington Senators stadium, and they released us without knowing who we were in three days.

When I returned home to Michigan, I had been renting an apartment overlooking the Menominee Marina. I couldn't help but notice a large crowd of people completely filling up the park that surrounded the marina, so I went down to see what was going on. I found some friends who let me know that it was an antiwar protest that also had something to do with the city having placed a curfew on the park after a previous curfew. I was there for about fifteen minutes when I was arrested for criminal trespass and inciting a riot. Inciting a riot? There was no riot; we were sitting on the grass, and I had just barely learned what it was all about, let along inciting the thing. They dropped the inciting a riot charge and dropped the trespass charge to a misdemeanor, despite the fact that I had no way of knowing there was a curfew on the park. There were several local or regional protests as well, while I was in college in Marquette.

However, I will say that I had attended meetings of the War Resister's League leading up to the 1971 May Day demonstrations, and throughout the other demonstrations I was involved in, I was never aware of anyone disrespecting those who served in Vietnam, and I doubt that was ever a plan. My brother was in Vietnam at the time. Of course, wherever you have thousands of people involved in something, there will be some idiots, but it was generally expected that those who made asses of themselves were probably employed by the federal or state governments, looking to stir something up that they could arrest people for.

In 1972, I worked for the McGovern campaign, although I pretty much lost interest in him when he dumped Eagleton as his running mate after stating that he supported him 1000%. I didn't know or care much about Eagleton, but dumping someone because they had received mental health counseling didn't sound like someone who deserved to be president. Besides, by the time of the November election, Nixon had positioned himself as the peace candidate. I didn't vote for either of of them; I voted for Gus Hall, the Communist Party candidate, knowing he didn't have a chance in hell of winning, only to have people wondering who in Mellen Township voted for a communist. When they printed the election results in the newspaper, I found that they hadn't even counted my vote. Thus, I learned that elections couldn't be trusted anymore than candidates could.

I don't think my political positions have changed a whole lot, although situations have. I am still opposed to the United States militarily inserting itself overseas without clear provocation, and I still don't believe that we should overthrow foreign governments in the name of democracy, particularly when we have far too many of our own problems. However, whether misguided or wrong, once we are involved in a war, I don't root for the other side to win, as elected Democrats do today.

Of course, politics has to do with a whole lot of things besides war. Politically, I wouldn't fit neatly into any of the political categories. My views would align with traditional liberals, not progressives, on many issues, such as individual freedom, equality (not equity), the protection of individual rights, limited government, and the rule of law, which are all things that today's progressives oppose. Democrats are not liberals. I would align with libertarians on some of the same issues, namely individual liberty, personal sovereignty, and limited government intervention in personal and economic matters, but, unlike most Libertarians, I wouldn't extend individual liberty to condone killing people, whether or not they have exited the womb yet, and I believe that government should have a role in protecting people from themselves and others. I can't think of anything that I would agree with progressives on, and progressives make up the bulk of elected Democrats. Although I hate Republicans, I would align with republicanism in that our elected representatives should have a role in protecting our individual liberties, combating corruption, and maintaining order. I believe in a limited government limited by constitutional laws, and a commitment to the rule of law. Generally, I vote for Republicans only to find that they don't do any of that stuff once elected to office. Constitutionalism is attractive in that I can readily accept that something is not necessary bad just because I don't like it, and that people who want different things than I do should have the right to work towards their goals so long as they do so within the bounds of the Constitution. When he was in office, I rarely agreed with the goals that former Ohio Representative Dennis Kucinich was working towards, but I had the sense that he worked towards them within the bounds of the Constitution, and I could appreciate that.

Lastly, at least for now, I don't think it matters what we want or don't want in a government if we don't enforce our borders, remove foreigners who are here illegally, and have fair elections.
 
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My family had been Republican back to when there were first Republicans. The first time I voted in a presidential election....I had just turned 21....of course, I voted for Richard Nixon. It was expected of me; my father would have disowned me if I didn't (well, probably not, but he would have been highly disappointed). My great-grandfather was an elected Republican politician.

A story I always got a big kick out of about my family. My grandparents had been "seeing" each other for some time but were keeping it a secret from grandma's dad, who wasn't entertaining any notions of a young man coming around to court. Finally, Grandpa said "That's it! I'm going to ask your father for permission to court you, because I want to do it right and in the open!"

Grandma begged him, said her father would kill him, but he said he was coming over that evening. Grandma and her mother were in the kitchen trembling, Great-grandpa was in the parlor, reading the paper after dinner.

My little Grandpa came up the walk and knocked on the screen door. Great-grandpa went to the door. "Who are you and what do you want?"

Grandpa said, "My name is ________, I love your daughter and I am here to ask your permission to court her" and he opened the screen door. Great-grandpa grabbed him, spun him around, picked him up by the seat of his pants and the back of his jacket and tossed him out on the sidewalk. (Great-grandpa was a big guy; Grandpa was a fairly little guy).

Grandpa picked himself up, brushed himself off and came back to the door. "You can throw me out all evening, but I'll keep coming back because I love your daughter and I want to court her respectfully and with your permission."

Great-grandpa looked at him and said, "What is your political affiliation?" Grandpa didn't have a political affiliation, he was only 17 and had very little interest in politics. He hadn't discussed it with Grandma and had no idea how to answer that. Depending on luck, he said, "I'm a Republican, like my father and my grandfather before me!"

Well, luckily that was the right answer and Great-grandfather said, "Well, could be worse. Step in and we'll discuss it." By the end of the night, Grandma was engaged with her father's blessing, with a promise to raise the kids Republican.

I, however, am a Democrat through and through and have been for a very long time. Both my parents came to affiliate with the Democratic party, too.
 
The Republican Party does not necessarily practice republicanism, the Libertarian Party is all over the place, and Democrats are often referred to as liberals, yet they are nearly the opposite of liberalism. Democracy is a system of government in which political power resides with the people, exercised directly or through elected representatives, ensuring that government actions reflect the collective will while protecting individual rights, and that is not at all the view of elected Democrats who didn't even allow Party members to decide who their candidate for president was going to be in 2024, and whose policies are based on government overriding the will of the people in pretty much every matter. So, while I consider myself to be liberal in many ways, I am opposed to pretty much everything coming from the Democrat Party.
 
I'm proud to say that I have never had a party affiliation and never will. My politics have not changed; I pick and choose from the party platforms and I wish we could return to a more non-partisan country. (I believe in a woman's right to choose and closed borders, etc.) I lean heavily right in the past several years but I will never be a Republican.

My first time voting was for Jimmy Carter in 1976. I have voted Democrat more times than Republican over the years, but with the current state of the Democratic Party that will never happen again. The Democrats have lost their way and want to destroy our country.
 
I have been unenrolled from any political party since 2012, when I enrolled as a Republican briefly in order to vote for Ron Paul in the primary, and was elected town Republican chairman, then unenrolled after the general election. In 2008, I enrolled as a Republican to vote for Ron Paul in the primary, as well, and was nominated as the Republican candidate for a State House seat, unenrolling after the general election.

I didn't vote for Richard Nixon in 1972, Gerald Ford in 1976, or Ronald Reagan in 1980, although I might have voted for him in 1984. I didn't vote for George H.W. Bush in 1988 or 1992, or Bob Dole in 1996. I did vote for George W. Bush in 2000 but didn't vote for his reelection in 2004. I didn't vote for John McCain in 2008 or Mitt Romney in 2012. I did vote for Donald Trump in 2016, 2000, and 2024, although, while I voted in all of these elections, I didn't vote for the Democrat candidates either.

Of the two main political parties, I think the Republicans do a much better job of verbalizing support for a republican agenda than the Democrats do for a democratic agenda, although they don't do anything about it once elected, while the Democrat Party, in the last couple of decades, doesn't even pretend to hold to a democrat agenda.

Trump was the first Republican president in my lifetime who seemed to actually be pursuing a republican agenda. Yet, his first term was bogged down in manufactured controversies, and he gave the Oval Office over to Dr. Fauci for much of the year preceding the 2020 election. If the election had been honest, I am convinced that he would have won it handily but if he hadn't ceded to Fauci in the several months before the election, his win in the 2020 election would have been too big to steal, as it was in 2024. Given the absolute ineptitude of Republicans in Congress, I thought he was doing remarkably well during the first year of his second term, but I'm afraid he has since decided he'd rather be known as the Great Conqueror than as a man who lives up to his promises. I'm still hoping he gets back to business before it's too late, but I am skeptical. He is still a whole lot better than Kamala would have been, however.
 
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I have written of my political epiphany in the 1970s when I discovered that thee Democrats expected their voters to be stupid and undiscerning. I was raised in a Republican family, but I was voting based on what I thought the candidate stood for until I had my awakening. I saw in teh South, which was solid Democrat that they voted that way because Lincoln was Republican and he freed the slaves. The Blacks there voted the same way because...I neve figured out why. Perhaps because the Democrats were filibustering every Civil Rights bill in history and they really did not want equal rights. I never figured it out and still haven't. I read Hamilton Jordan's (Carter's Chief-of-Staff) in which he outlined how Carter had converted the Democrat party of Roosevelt to a group of special interest groups and if you promised something to each group--environmentalists, feminists, abortion advocates, etc., they would vote for you. It remained that until recently when it was changed to an Anything Trump Does Will destroy The Country party and exhibits hatred and violence the likes of which haven't ben seen since the Civil War (which the Democrats began after their National Convention of 1860).

Yeah, my political opinion changed after Carter as I never considered myself stupid and easily misled.
 
My family had been Republican back to when there were first Republicans. The first time I voted in a presidential election....I had just turned 21....of course, I voted for Richard Nixon. It was expected of me; my father would have disowned me if I didn't (well, probably not, but he would have been highly disappointed). My great-grandfather was an elected Republican politician.

A story I always got a big kick out of about my family. My grandparents had been "seeing" each other for some time but were keeping it a secret from grandma's dad, who wasn't entertaining any notions of a young man coming around to court. Finally, Grandpa said "That's it! I'm going to ask your father for permission to court you, because I want to do it right and in the open!"

Grandma begged him, said her father would kill him, but he said he was coming over that evening. Grandma and her mother were in the kitchen trembling, Great-grandpa was in the parlor, reading the paper after dinner.

My little Grandpa came up the walk and knocked on the screen door. Great-grandpa went to the door. "Who are you and what do you want?"

Grandpa said, "My name is ________, I love your daughter and I am here to ask your permission to court her" and he opened the screen door. Great-grandpa grabbed him, spun him around, picked him up by the seat of his pants and the back of his jacket and tossed him out on the sidewalk. (Great-grandpa was a big guy; Grandpa was a fairly little guy).

Grandpa picked himself up, brushed himself off and came back to the door. "You can throw me out all evening, but I'll keep coming back because I love your daughter and I want to court her respectfully and with your permission."

Great-grandpa looked at him and said, "What is your political affiliation?" Grandpa didn't have a political affiliation, he was only 17 and had very little interest in politics. He hadn't discussed it with Grandma and had no idea how to answer that. Depending on luck, he said, "I'm a Republican, like my father and my grandfather before me!"

Well, luckily that was the right answer and Great-grandfather said, "Well, could be worse. Step in and we'll discuss it." By the end of the night, Grandma was engaged with her father's blessing, with a promise to raise the kids Republican.

I, however, am a Democrat through and through and have been for a very long time. Both my parents came to affiliate with the Democratic party, too.

What a great story @Mary Robi.! :):cool:
 
My first time voting was for Jimmy Carter in 1976. I have voted Democrat more times than Republican over the years, but with the current state of the Democratic Party that will never happen again. The Democrats have lost their way and want to destroy our country.
Jimmy Carter was the first President I voted for too. My family was Democrat back then and that's how I voted also. I haven't been associated with any party for many years. I vote for whom I think is going to be the best for the country.
 
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