Carbon-free Energy Information

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  1. Joy Martin

    Joy Martin Veteran Member
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    In order to achieve “carbon-free” electricity
    generation by 2035 and nearly fossil fuel–free
    energy by 2050, technologies will need to be
    built that include millions of weather-dependent
    wind turbines, billions of unreliable solar
    panels, millions of half-ton battery modules for
    vehicles, billions more modules to back up
    intermittent electricity generation, millions of
    transformers, and tens of thousands of miles of
    new transmission lines. All these technologies
    must be manufactured from metals, minerals, and
    petroleum extracted from the Earth, via mining on
    scales unprecedented in human history. It would
    cost $29 trillion in initial outlays for battery
    backup to replace current US ‘fossil fuel’
    electricity and convert vehicles, furnaces, water
    heaters, and stoves to electricity. Professional
    engineer Ken Gregory determined that grid-backup
    battery costs could reach $290 trillion (12.6 times the USA’s 2021 GDP).

    https://needtoknow.news/2023/05/net-zero-grid-batteries-would-bankrupt-america/
     
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    I have some experience in fleet vehicle maintenance/service/repair. In our fleet we had a number of nat-gas small/medium vehicles. I never did understand why the local/state/fed governments did not get further behind promoting that fuel. It is clean,dry and in my experience the vehicles themselves ran just fine. Maybe just a-bit down on power , but that can be corrected if desired.

    I assume the reluctance is the fact that it is a derivative of a fossil [source] an extract of oil ? And that is a toxic thought to the liberal-left ?
     
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    Last night on one of my conservative radio programs, a chef/owner of a new restaurant opening in Palo Alto, CA went thru hoops to keep his gas stoves in his new restaurant. The control freaks and CA controllers are relentless.

    He said his prices are higher than normally due to where we are NOW.....
     
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    Carbon free anything doesn’t make any sense to me. If it is being manufactured or harvested, it is generating a carbon footprint. Human activity of any kind produces a carbon footprint.

    They tout electric vehicles as carbon free. That’s total BS. They don’t just appear, already manufactured, out of thin air.
     
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    If they really wanted to clean things up, they would get the plastic and garbage out of the oceans, make laws to waste less. Not force electric cars by a set date.
     
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