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  1. Marie Mallery

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    Did you hear that people who are vaxxed can spread it to unvexed? Maybe just a rumor and un-true but thats another thing out there.
     
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    Can that even be possible? Wouldn't that be like a dog and a cat making a baby? It sounds so "cross-species."
     
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  3. Marie Mallery

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    I know in 1988 when my mother was dying of lung cancer and her first great grandchild, my first grandchild was 9 months old and just had her shots aka vaxxed, I took her into mommas' room and momma said she couldn't be exposed to any children just vaccinated.
    I know she wasn't kidding.
     
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  4. Marie Mallery

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    @John Brunner ,

    Here is an article it was hard to find since the last 30 years most vax's are not live but some still are.

    https://www.oncolink.org/


    Question:
    Dear OncoLink "Ask The Experts,"

    How long should a neutropenic person stay away from someone who has received a vaccine, flu shot, or infants who received their regular vaccinations? I see that it says to "avoid" recently vaccinated persons, but no indication for [how] long. Thanks.

    Answer:
    The issue with vaccines is actually with those that are "live attenuated vaccines". These types of vaccines are created using the actual germ or bacteria, and therefore could possibly infect someone. However, it is rare for this to occur, because the germ gets weaker as the vaccine is produced in the laboratory. Because of this, it causes mild or no illness in the person receiving the vaccine. However, if the person receiving the vaccine is exposed to someone who is immunocompromised, the immunocompromised individual could get the illness.
     
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  5. Don Alaska

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    Different thing. Regular vaccines, especially live attenuated virus vaccines don't cause disease in "normal" people but can do so in immunocompromised people. The Covid "vaccine" isn't a vaccine at all in the normal use of the term. It is an instruction to your own cells to manufacture an antigen (spike protein) to which your body will recognize as foreign and make antibodies to the protein. The Covid vaccine doesn't transmit disease, but what you may have heard is that the vaccination doesn't PREVENT the spread of disease. In other words, the vaccinated people can spread the disease to others without getting sick themselves. That was one of the big lies out of the CDC. They never told people who were vaccinated that they could still spread the disease to others until it came out in a disclosure from a FOIA request or whistleblower.
     
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  6. Marie Mallery

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    When momma was diagnosed, I went into major study foolishly thinking I could save her,and took care of her last months of her life till her last pulse and I closed her eyes, she would not go to hospital just radiation daily to be able to breath.
    I understand they are different but if the stuff can escape the lab as rumor has it and kill the guy on it when it first got loose then it may be possible? I don't think they tell us everything.
     
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    It was the virus itself that escaped the lab in Wuhan, not the vaccine. Completely different things. There is no virus in the Covid vaccine.
     
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  8. Marie Mallery

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    Your correct and I stand corrected.
     
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    Look on the bright side. We can get the variations of covid and the vaccinated obviously can too. Maybe we give it to them.:rolleyes:
     
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    That was what was claimed for a while, but when it was studied, it was found the opposite was true. The vaccinated served as a reservoir for the virus as the vaccine is referred to as a "leaky" virus. The vaccinated spread it to the unvaxxed, but not usually the other way around, at least for the variants for which the vaccine was valid. The vaccinated are now believed to have accelerated the mutation rate.
     
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    In Germany, You Must Be Fully Vaxxed before Your Death by Assisted Suicide

    The ironies of assisted suicide never end. Germany allows suicide on demand — including assistance — as a fundamental constitutional right. But now, you must be vaccinated against COVID before a euthanasia group will help you kill yourself.

    From the Spectator story: As European countries battle to limit the spread of the virus, Verein Sterbehilfe – the German Euthanasia Association – has issued a new directive, declaring it will now only help those who have been vaccinated or recovered from the disease.

    In a statement, the association said: “Euthanasia and the preparatory examination of the voluntary responsibility of our members willing to die require human closeness. Human closeness, however, is a prerequisite and breeding ground for coronavirus transmission. As of today, the 2G rule applies in our association, supplemented by situation-related measures, such as quick tests before encounters in closed rooms.

    ‘Close encounters in closed rooms’ – a fabulous euphemism for assisted suicide.
     
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    The thinking may be, if that doesn't work, we'll assist. you.
     
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    There was someone on another forum actually defending it:

    "You can debate the vaccine's ability to prevent transmission, but you cannot debate the need to provide safety for others in the room." It really makes me wanna cry.
     
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    The comment doesn't seem to make sense.
     
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    It doesn't. It's either bait or it's a Limited Capacity issue.
     
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