Aussie Scientists Crack The Clean Energy " Holy Grail ".

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  1. Craig Wilson

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    Energy giant Australian Gas Light Company in conjunction with fellow Australian company Clean Energy Resources claim they have cracked what is believed to be a world first carbon (greenhouse gas) - free extraction of hydrogen from coal or biomass waste. This is the culmination of eight years of painstaking work by CER scientists who are now calling this game changing technology the cracking of the Clean Energy Holy Grail.

    AGL has already began producing hydrogen from brown coal at its Loy Yang power station in Victoria States Latrobe Valley for export to Japan. No doubt future exports will feature this ground breaking clean technology and position Australia as a future leading clean energy exporter.
     
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    I remember a couple years ago, goooogle hdqrts in California, and amzon or yhoo headqrts in California, already have a

    clean huge powerplant they purchased "on the cheap" new, with tax benefits and giant discounts given them

    and it costs almost nothing in maintenance (supposedly, but possible),
    and
    is /was/ developed with or from an individual 'scientist' (or engineer?) layering sand or sea salt or some such in small blocks the size of a brick,
    then multiplying each brick times dozens, hundreds, and thousands of times in series and in parallel to produce effortless electiricity which was done decades ago, but not utilized on a large scale and was pretty much covered up because the energy supplied would have been inexpensive enough to provide businesses, homes, and cities with more electricity than they needed for about three cents per kwh, or less.

    It was put into use in artic regions , and other isolated spots, and works great, but is not profitable enough or rather takes away the profits of oil and gas and wind and solar , so it was not permitted by them to be used widely
     
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    I like your post Craig but I’ll have to do some more research though.

    You listed biomass waste as a hydrogen yielding substance so I’m confused as to what type of waste that might be.
    Normally, biomass is indicative of dead plant material and it releases the natural stored energy in it which is carbon dioxide, not hydrogen.
    Several years ago a biologist in California (I think) was able to use waste material from sewage to convert into hydrogen but the cost involved in the process was more than the use of fossil fuels.
    Maybe that’s the type of biomass they’re talking about but virtually anything that stores energy can be used to make energy so again, more research is called for to make a definitive call on whether I can see a realistic future what you’re reporting.

    Note: Just a small addition. If perhaps they’re talking about converting methane, another product of degeneration, to hydrogen then it’s a different story but that’s been done for years so I’m still confused.
     
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    Actually not sure what biomass waste the article is referring to Bobby.
    see if I can get you a link to full article.
     
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    No dice on article. I read it in a newspaper and am not subscribed online to it. Must have been an exclusive. It is the Daily Telegraph a Rubert Murdoch publication.
     
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    I was going to guess methane too. A while back there was hoopla about fuel cells with the hydrogen coming from borax. The largaest mine in the world is in California and I think the article I read said the mine was owned (or leased for 99 years) by an Australian company. They ran busses in Chicago for years on those fuel cells.
    Once again, the powers that be want us only on solar and wind, with a nutty amount of lithium thrown in, for some reason.
     
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    I apologize because I had forgotten about this thread until Mary replied and I was alerted to it.

    I have found some better and more authoritative work on the biomass > hydrogen questions I was having. It’s a decent read but it doesn’t really give any qualitative remarks unless one counts the links that are imbedded and even then it’s going to take a bit more study to see if it’s cost effective.
    Note: It’s a government site so do travel with care because like all government sites, I’m getting very wary of the quality of anything that is published.

    https://www.energy.gov/eere/fuelcel...,Wind. ... 5 Renewable and Grid Electricity.
     
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