Men Are Becoming... Something Else

I forced myself to view this. My personal opinion is the video is mostly useless.

Also, I would like to know why these types of “informative” Videos on American issues always have a very strong non-American accent doing the narrating.

If the narrator must have an accent, there are plenty in the U.S. to choose from that lived here during whatever time period is being discussed.

If this isn’t AI, it ought to be💩🔥💩🔥
 
Connie Bennett said:
I forced myself to view this. My personal opinion is the video is mostly useless.

Also, I would like to know why these types of “informative” Videos on American issues always have a very strong non-American accent doing the narrating.

If the narrator must have an accent, there are plenty in the U.S. to choose from that lived here during whatever time period is being discussed.
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And I say" bullshit.

Typical deflection: "Look at the messenger. Shame! Ignore the message!"

Could it have been dramatically compressed to get the same points across? Certainly. Could it have been narrated by some Wilford Brimley or Morgan Freeman voice or the like? Sure.

Such videos are lengthy for one reason: monetization. That does nothing to diminish the message though.

So who else has stepped up to address the whiny complaints levied against the video here? Anybody? Bueller? Bueller? I thought not.

I swear, some of you people sound like one of the people from Democrat-aligned NGOs brought to testify to Congress who "answer" every question by either "taking the Fifth" or going into some long-winded off-point speechifying that tries to evade the question, trample on it, and promote the very crimes they are being investigated for.

surely anyone with two brains cells left to rub together can figure all of that out by themselves though, right?


What is breaking young men into unskilled, weak, idle, and shiftless puppies? And in a world that is growing ever more dangerous?

The answer to both is the rise of toxic matriarchy. You might as well castrate them at birth and wrap them in a rainbow flag and call it good. That's what it is to grow up in "Mommy's World."


If you view the thing on YouTube there is even a "Show transcript" link. Click that, then you get a list of the text you can scroll through, with links to jump the video to each point. How hard is this?


Ok, I'll grump some more.

People seem to want to condemn phones, etc. but given an entertaining multimedia presentation they whine and want phone texting concision?

Or... Is it a desire for cold, bullet-pointed lists that make it easier to just attack the message more conveniently?

You'd think this place was full of bitter impatient old women. Oh wait, nevermind. 🤣 .

I suppose my time is wasted here. The place is about as useful as tits on a boar. But I'll note this: If a thread doesn't interest you then you are free to ignore it. There is no need to turn anything you disagree with into a kvetch-o-rama.

But that's the goal, right? Shouting down anything you disagree with?
 
I guess this means I really poked the nest doesn’t it.🤠🤠🤠🤠

I’m not the one doing the shouting —- your overwrought response is doing enough for both of us 🤠🤠

Your boring rhetoric reminds me of a couple of people in the real world that I have little use for.

This is supposed to be a friendly, non confrontational senior forum, but your outburst would fit well with “that other senior forum”. I was merely expressing my thoughts on these types of videos and their narrators — since when isn’t that allowed - oh wait a minute, you must make the ruells here and I have crossed the line with you for a second time.

Let’s just agree to disagree. I promise to stay out of anything you say, regardless of its substance or lack thereof and you can likewise stay out of anything I say, regardless of your opinion on substance or lack thereof.🤠🤠🤠
 
When you post a video, @Jacob Petersheim , it would help if you wrote a description of the video, warn people if it is a long one, and also explain what interested you in the video when you watched it. This way, people can get the basic information that is in the video without having to watch it, and then they can watch it if they want to learn more about the topic of the video.

As Ken always explains, the idea of a discussion forum is to share our thoughts or opinions, and if we also include a picture or video, that is just “backup information” to what we have written.
Not every video that is interesting to one person is going to be interesting to everyone else, but a summary of the video helps a lot for people to determine if they want to watch the video, or comment on your post.

Also, personal attacks are not allowed on this forum, and this is the second time (at least) that you have attacked Connie for something she posted.
She was not attacking you in her post at all……….. just commenting on the topic and the video……and then you went on a rant, and a long post attacking her personally, and accusing her of attacking “the messenger, not the message”.
We all like Connie and do not want to see her (or anyone else) being chased away from the forum because of personal attacks.
 
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I don't normally watch long videos simply because I don't have time. But, in the interest of fairness, I watched this one.

I actually agreed with most of lost skills. We have talked about some of them here on different threads.

Today's youth spend far too much time on their electronic devices which often involve violence and killing.

They are not allowed to fail at anything. Everybody gets a trophy whether they did well or not. A lot of them are on meds for depression because they have not been allowed to learn to handle disappointment. Then try again.

Speaking of how to start a fire, my Grandson and I learned in Boy Scouts that you can start a fire with dryer lint and a magnifying glass on a sunny day. Put a small pile of dryer lint on the grill or somewhere. Hold the magnifying glass so that if focusses the small dot on the lint. Tada! In a few minutes, you have a fire. They kept a toilet paper tube filled with dryer lint on their camping trips just in case they needed to start a fire to send up a smoke signal to be rescued.
 
Connie Bennett said:
I forced myself to view this. My personal opinion is the video is mostly useless.

Also, I would like to know why these types of “informative” Videos on American issues always have a very strong non-American accent doing the narrating.

If the narrator must have an accent, there are plenty in the U.S. to choose from that lived here during whatever time period is being discussed.
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I haven't watched the video, but I've watched several like that; judging from the blurb and the thumbnail, I generally find them interesting.

I, too, am annoyed by the common practice these days to have someone with a foreign accent or, even worse, an AI voice with a foreign accent, narrate everything. We're being programmed to believe that someone from another country is more authoritative than an American would be. That was an actual directive by the networks a few years ago, that whenever an expert was needed for a story, to find someone from another country, or, if an expert from another country couldn't be easily found, then someone with some ethnicity other than Anglo-Saxon, or, if all else fails, a woman. As a consequence, and this part is my opinion, people putting podcasts together have accepted that a foreign voice is more credible than an American accent so we see this even in podcasts on American subjects.
 
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Connie Bennett said:
This is supposed to be a friendly, non confrontational senior forum, but your outburst would fit well with “that other senior forum”. I was merely expressing my thoughts on these types of videos and their narrators — since when isn’t that allowed
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It is allowed. People sometimes get upset when someone criticizes or dismisses something they found informative or interesting. In one sense, I get that, because I have shared videos or other information that I thought others might find interesting, only to have them dismissed; it doesn't make me angry, but it's not a positive feeling either. But then, neither would I want everyone to agree with me on everything; that would soon get boring. Mostly, I think, I am annoyed when something is summarily dismissed by someone who hasn't even read or watched whatever it was. Even then, it wouldn't make me angry because it's not like I had spent my time researching and putting the video together. Nevertheless, what is mildly annoying to one person might be upsetting to another, but this doesn't justify personal attacks, and I apologize for that.

As a forum administrator, I am not perfect, but I try to err on the side of inclusion. I would like this to be a place where seniors can talk about things without walking on eggshells for fear of breaking one rule or another, and I would like the forum to be forgiving of some of the things we sometimes experience in our later years that might not always be socially correct. On the other hand, I want members to feel comfortable offering opinions without being afraid of being personally attacked for their views. In trying to find that balance, we run into social glitches from time to time.
 
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Ken Anderson said:
I haven't watched the video, but I've watched several like that; judging from the blurb and the thumbnail, I generally find them interesting.

I, too, am annoyed by the common practice these days to have someone with a foreign accent or, even worse, an AI voice with a foreign accent, narrate everything. We're being programmed to believe that someone from another country is more authoritative than an actual American would be. That was an actual directive by the networks a few years ago, that whenever an expert was needed for a story, to find someone from another country, or, if an expert from another country couldn't be easily found, then someone with some ethnicity other than Anglo-Saxon, or, if all else fails, a woman. As a consequence, and this part is my opinion, people putting podcasts together have accepted that a foreign voice is more credible than an American accent.
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Interesting take on foreign accents. I never thought of it that way. I do sometimes find it amusing that they will often have someone with a heavy British accent advertising products on TV shopping shows.
 
Jacob Petersheim said:
15 forgotten skills every 1950s boy mastered before 12

What has changed? Was it technology? Really?

Or... something else.
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SO TRUE.
Jake would tell his mom he was ready to eat. h would tell him go get a bird or squrel clean it and she'd cook it.
He was changing oil in his dads pickup truck,water pumps etc at 10 yr old.Him and his 4 brothers knew how to do lots of things.
 
Okay, I have watched the video. I was right in that I have seen videos like it before. Given that the topic is reminiscing about boyhood in America in the 1950s, an American voice would have been far more effective and listenable.

However, I agree with most of it, and don't necessarily disagree with any of it. While I understand why some of these things have changed, I don't necessarily think that boys are better off for it. I was 7 in 1958, but I already knew how to do some of these things, and by 12, I knew how to do most of them, though some not so well. I will say that I have never been in a serious fight in my life; however, this might have been because I was related to nearly everyone I knew until I went to high school, the primary exceptions being kids from other troops while I was a Boy Scout.

I also like the topic because I think often about the fact that so many of the things I did while I was growing up are lost on today's generations and I'm not persuaded that what they have is better.
 
For one thing, a larger percentage of children now grow up in large cities rather than in rural or suburban communities. That's not necessarily a good thing, but it is a reality. Children in Chicago or Baltimore probably have fewer opportunities to do most of these things, and might be arrested if they carried a knife around, whereas that was common in the 1950s. The video addresses that, though.

I don't know the exact percentages, but I believe more kids are growing up without fathers today, and since the Boy Scouts has been infiltrated by girls and gays, and substantially marginalized as a positive force today, children in cities have even fewer opportunities to learn these skills.

There are many reasons for the changes. I agree that they have been largely negative in producing better men, but I'm afraid there's little or nothing that can be done about it on a large scale, though parents can still teach these things to their children. Some of the influences have been technology, yes, but I think greater than that has been an organized effort to change the way society operates, uplifting girls at the expense of boys to some extent, but also tearing down traditional societal frameworks. Some of you might view this as a good thing, and there is some good in it - better opportunities for girls and women are a good thing, at least for girls and women, and technology ain't all bad.
 
Ken Anderson said:
Okay, I have watched the video. I was right in that I have seen videos like it before. Given that the topic is reminiscing about boyhood in America in the 1950s, an American voice would have been far more effective and listenable.

However, I agree with most of it, and don't necessarily disagree with any of it. While I understand why some of these things have changed, I don't necessarily think that boys are better off for it. I was 7 in 1958, but I already knew how to do some of these things, and by 12, I knew how to do most of them, though some not so well. I will say that I have never been in a serious fight in my life; however, this might have been because I was related to nearly everyone I knew until I went to high school, the primary exceptions being kids from other troops while I was a Boy Scout.

I also like the topic because I think often about the fact that so many of the things I did while I was growing up are lost on today's generations and I'm not persuaded that what they have is better.
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Ken the song was basically about his boyhood.Although not all boys were rasied the same in the time period.
 
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