Canada may fall apart

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Don Alaska

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Polls in Alberta indicate support for independence in the mid-40%. Supporters of the independence movement have begun talking with the Trump administration with regard to recognition, lines of credit, and trade agreements. As a result of the Alberta movement, Quebec has begun a renewed effort to separate. I wonder what will happen.
 
Ontario (at least outside the NYC/London surrogate of Toronto) has also been unsettled in recent weeks. They've felt a pinch in both forestry and auto and auto parts manufacturing.

I'm not sure the Maritimes in the East can say much. They are too economically dependent on the central government.
 
Actually Quebec is subsidized to the hilt as well, but the voters there don't seem to realize it. Alberta, Saskatchewan, and to some extent, British Columbia support the rest of the country and get punished for doing it by Ottawa. It may all shake out okay. Maybe some of the Canadians want to chime in on this.
 
What the guy was talking about is the product of the Green Energy Initiative and environmentalist/Woke/ Virtue Signaling. New England has elected to put itself at the bottom of the energy system to "save the planet". Stupidly, they rely on the coal-burning plants in Pennsylvania, West Virginia and Kentucky to stay alive at all, but in high energy demand periods, that interconnect as well as the Quebec Hydro that he mentioned are allowed to reduce or cut off sending power to New England to satisfy their own customer demand. New England relies on "excess power" generation from other areas, and when there is no excess, New England has no power. A totally stupid strategy but New Englanders, led by Massachusetts, voted for it. Elections have consequences.
 
I found a chart that shows what is happening to Canada economically, and apparently, they rank just under the state of Alabama for average income, and Alabama is the 4th poorest state in the US, so that does not say much for Canada economically.
I was thinking about this when @Madge Bumstead was talking about Canada’s leaders wonderful speech last week, and that if the country is doing so bad that it ranks this low, it is hard to imagine what Carney had to say about the country and his leadership that was so wonderful ?



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It isn't even the prairie Provinces alone growing impatient with the policies of the central government and their aftermath.

B.C. is beginning to shake in its boots at the thought it might "lose" its neighbor to its immediate East. Ontario is realizing the extent to which it depends on trade and industrial relationships with the U.S. including the electrical grid, petroleum pipelines, and nuclear fuel processing and waste disposal. Even farming in Ontario is incredibly energy-intensive.

There is also the nagging problem of a failing general economy of course, but also the threat of China waltzing in and taking everything over.
 
From my perspective, for the past couple of decades, at least, Canada's relationship with the United States parallels the Democrat Party's relationship with Republicans: whatever the U.S. does, Canada is against it. Also, when I refer to "Canada," I am referring to its government and media spokespeople, not Canadian people.
 
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I was thinking about this when @Madge Bumstead was talking about Canada’s leaders wonderful speech last week, and that if the country is doing so bad that it ranks this low, it is hard to imagine what Carney had to say about the country and his leadership that was so wonderful ?
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I watched the speech; it's on youtube. Just another thinly-veiled Trump bashing because that's all he's got, plus he's too cowardly to call Trump out directly. Canada is just as divided as the USA politically, so it's par for the course.
 
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I watched the speech; it's on youtube. Just another thinly-veiled Trump bashing because that's all he's got, plus he's too cowardly to call Trump out directly. Canada is just as divided as the USA politically, so it's par for the course.
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I didn’t watch all of it, but I listened to the part where he was talking about getting rid of hate speech. That seemed to me like they want to control and limit free speech, and following after what the UK leadership has been doing. He also mentioned tech and social media , so they might even try to stop people from posting online, too, or reading what other people have posted.
In any case, it was definitely wanting to limit what a person is legally allowed to say and talk about.
 
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I think they are really going to regret cozying up to China... if things get that far before they come to their senses.

I've watched some videos they make for each other, and much of it consists of hilarious stretches of the imagination. The do admit the most of Eastern Canada was comprised of Tory Bastards who fled from the US before and during the Revolution. The chip on their shoulder goes way back. Most of them have deep family ties to slavery and as abusive agents of the Crown within the Colonies, and opposed Independence. They quickly armed and trained Indians and set them upon US settlers, and afterward quickly dispossessed them of their lands.

There just isn't any moral high ground there.
 
Canada's military would not have an impact compared to the two major military forces in the "West". I suspect that many Canadians, like many Minnesotans, are terribly susceptible to the propaganda and don't have the ability to critically analyze international affairs. They probably don't even realize that this is a change in attitude. Rural Alaska is somewhat the same, as the only media many get is the PBS radio stations. Canadians rely on different things than Minnesota, where mayonnaise and ketchup rule. For Canadians, it may be whiskey, beer and pea meal bacon, I don't know. We need to ask @Madge Bumstead and @Steve North about all that. Most Americans didn't seem to realize that the 51st State stuff was a joke.
 
What's funny is the number of kooks who ran to Canada and immediately found they can't work there or get "free" health care and are now basically homeless. Many have taken to begging on social media, asking for cash and free or cheap places to stay off the street.

I saw one highly overprivileged idiot who ran to Costa Rica and found that it is nothing like the ritzy resorts there that she had vacationed to in the past.
 
An interesting article, somewhat tongue-in-cheek, about Canada. Apparently 700+ IRGC Iranian terrorists have now moved ot Canada with the blessing of the government. Perhaps Canada will now be a major state sponsor of terrorism.

alaskawatchman.com

OPINION: Yes, Canada should be the 51st state

I just spent eight days in Canada attending the Arctic Winter Games (AWG) in Whitehorse. After seeing how their country is run, I now understand why President Trump is threatening to make Canada the 51st state.
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Being nearby, I've been places within Ontario quite a lot - though not very recently. I never had any feeling I was in the US. Everything always looked and felt a bit "off" and unpredictable. The laws, culture, and even retail commerce are different as is the way people act toward one another. Not hostile, but a bit cold with a constrained sense of humor. Almost a general sense of depression and touchiness. Business dealings were often dicey, and one had to take care not to offend.

This wasn't just in Toronto, so it wasn't "big city" coolness. I saw it in cops, fishing guides, farmers, and itinerant farmhands well outside the city too. Ontario treated its domestic farm workers much like foreign migrant workers here. Probably a holdover of French Colonial culture from early times there.

It's just different, as one should expect.
 
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