Would You Believe Jesus Was God's Son If You

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  1. Babs Hunt

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    had been living and walking the earth when He was, watching Him do the miracles He did, etc.?

    Would you have been part of the crowd that followed Him or one of the ones who wanted him dead?

    If you lived back then would you even have believed in God our Creator...or would you have been a Heathen?
     
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    A lot of people didn't so it's hard to tell.
     
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    So you're going along with the crowd Ken? Or are you going to make up your own mind what you believe?
     
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    We're both Believers and would definitely follow him. Just to be able to look into his Devine eyes would have been wonderful.

    We have the movie, Risen. A very powerful movie about Followers and a powerful Roman Tribune that ended up as one also. We love that movie.
     
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    I have no doubt that since I believe Jesus is God's Son without having been there personally when He walked this earth...that I would have believed it if I had been there too. And I would have been one who also believed and still do that God is our Creator and the Creator of the Universe and everything in and on it.

    The Bible is the proven history of God's chosen people and of those who choose God and Jesus too. Those who did walk and talk with Jesus back then are witnesses to everything that happened that proved Jesus was God's Son and that God is exactly who He says He is. So it is not hard for me to believe God's Word in the Bible is also the truth.

    I would have loved to have sat at Jesus's feet when He walked this earth....but by faith I know that one day I will sit at His feet in eternity....and that's something my heart can hardly wait for. :)
     
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    The question was if I would have believed in Christ if I had been living and walking the earth while He was here. I answered honestly, as I always try to do, that I don't know whether I would have believed. Christ spoke to the Jewish people, and there is little evidence that non-Jews were even much aware of His presence until His apostles and disciples were sent out into the world. If I were Jewish, then I would have been a different person, with entirely different life experiences, so I can't say, with any clarity, where I'd have gone with that. Had I been raised Muslim, would I be a Christian now? If I had been raised to be a Buddhist, would I have found Christ? Certainly, there are Muslims and Buddhists who have, but I can only speak for me, as I am, so my answer remains that I don't know.
     
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    Well I meant you would still be you Ken...just living in that time period. No offense meant here.
     
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    I'm not sure but I do believe if Jesus turned up today, in my neighborhood, he would probably be treated like all of the other illegal aliens in town.

    Most people are scared and suspicious of things that they don't understand.

    That fear/uncertainty usually results in some form of violence.
     
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    Of course, then the answer would be yes because the gap that would have to be spanned by faith would be even narrower.

    It's unlikely that he would, however. While here, He didn't travel very far.
     
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    As I understand things, the Lord is thought to be a kind and forgiving entity, ever merciful, and understanding.

    Thus, I ask, why is it that those who follow the Lord seem to for the most part decry heathens, like me, when their Savior supposedly forgives me?
    Frank
     
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    God is forgiving to those who ask forgiveness, but he hates evil.

    "God is a righteous judge, a God who expresses his wrath every day. If he does not relent, he will sharpen his sword; he will bend and string his bow. He has prepared his deadly weapons; he makes ready his flaming arrows." -- Psalm 4:11-13

    "The wrath of God is being revealed from heaven against all the godlessness and wickedness of men who suppress the truth by their wickedness." -- Romans 1:18
     
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    @Ken Anderson
    Thus, I am adjudged "wicked" because of my "godlessness"? Sorry, I can't buy it.
    Frank
     
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    It doesn't cost anything, Frank.
     
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    @Ken Anderson
    I am damned if I buy, and damned if I don't.

    What if I "sell" instead of buying?
    Frank
     
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    Those of us who are now Christians were once heathens too. God loves everyone He created but He does hate evil and His holiness cannot exist with unholiness. God's Son Jesus Christ shed His blood to make us holy when we ask Him to forgive our sins and become our Savior. This is a free gift anyone can ask for and receive. It is also the only way to eternal life with God our Father. Jesus washes away our sins (past, present, and future) when we repent and ask Him to forgive them and He becomes Lord of our lives.

    No matter how good we are...there is not one of us who hasn't sinned in thought, word, or deed. Sin is unholy and makes us unclean. Jesus washes away those sins and makes us holy before God. It's the gift God offers each of us and it is the only way to become one of his beloved sons or daughters and to know that we will spend eternity with Him one day.

    God offers every one of us this wonderful gift..all one has to do is ask for it in faith and believe when you receive it.
     
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    I agree with Ken, the key is asking for forgiveness.

    I also believe that not everyone needs to be a Christian the world is full of good heathens and pagans that hold different beliefs.

    Back to the OP, if the question is confined to the original time period when Jesus was on earth I probably would have been skeptical of him and remained faithful to the beliefs of my family.

    More gray areas in my life than strictly black and white ones I guess.
     
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    The key is asking for forgiveness...but who do ask forgiveness from?
     
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    One of the friends of one of those killed in the limo accident said, "why did God let this happen?" Does something like this accident turn some Believers into Non-Believers, or skeptics, that lost a loved one to something like this?
     
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    Yes with some people it actually does turn them away from God...or at least become skeptical about Him. A lot of people believe that if God loves us He will never let anything bad happen to us...but no where in the Bible does it say that. What it does say is that He will never leave or forsake us and that we will have troubles in this world. The one to blame is not God...but satan. And sometimes what happens is just a consequence of poor choices by either us or someone else.
     
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    Your question sounds very much like bait to me.

    If you were a Christian or a person looking for some form of Christian redemption you would ask God.

    If you were a heathen or a pagan I doubt that asking a Christian God for anything would ever cross your mind.

    I guess I have enough faith in my beliefs to be comfortable with letting others have their beliefs. In my mind, a heathen or a pagan is just a person on a different path to the same place. If that's wrong then I'm wrong.
     
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    I'm not a baiter @Beatrice Taylor. I am very open and honest about what I believe and even sharing my beliefs...but I also try very hard not to force my beliefs on anyone. As a Christian I consider it a privilege to share with others about God and Jesus but that's all Jesus has asked me to do...share the truth and let others make up their own mind. There is no baiting here...just honesty. I have my faith beliefs but I also believe everyone has the right to their faith beliefs too. :)
     
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    Just like Elvis.....


    Sorry Babs...
     
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    My mother had a stroke while I was away at Boy Scout camp and died not long afterward. Only months before, I had asked Christ to come into my heart, which is not strictly biblical, but that was the way I understood it at the time. Of course, there was more to it than that. Growing up in a Christian home, I had never seriously doubted the existence of God, but this was the time when He became real to me, along with the need for repentance and faith. I hadn't been baptized because I was raised in a church where children were baptized as infants, and I didn't come to realize (or accept, since not all Christians believe it) that I needed to be baptized as a Christian until I was in my early 20s.

    Anyhow, my point is that I was a new Christian. Learning that my mother was hospitalized and that her condition was serious, of course, I prayed that she would be healed. As a new, but faithful, Christian, I believed that she would be healed. That didn't happen. She died a couple of days later, and I was mad at God for a long time, which gave me an excuse to do a lot of the things that I did in high school.

    You're right. God does not promise that bad things will never happen to good people. When you consider that those who were closest to Christ suffered greatly for their obedience, and killed in horrible ways, that should become clear. God isn't overly concerned with how good of a life we live here on earth because His focus is on eternity. It's hard for us to understand that sometimes, particularly when the person suffering is ourselves or people close to us.
     
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    I would have said his "boots" (sandals) weren't made for walking @Holly Saunders. :D
     
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    @Cody Fousnaugh
    Beyond a doubt! Two personal instances in my experience, my ex-wife, Catholic, losing both parents in a murder-suicide, soon foreswore her belief. Rigorously religious friends of the family denounced her for asking the caskets be kept shut; she couldn't bear at 20 to look at her dead parents. The living were seeking to view the "damages". Disgusting. Frank
     
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