Winning The Lottery

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  1. Yvonne Smith

    Yvonne Smith Very Well-Known Member
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    We all think about winning the lottery, all of those millions of dollars, and now some of the jackpots are over a billion dollars. That is more than we are even able to actually imagine.
    Do you ever wonder what becomes of the people who won all of that money , or whether they even really exist at all ?
    So much of our news today is made up in the newsroom, or is simply manufactured; so why should we believe that the mega-million lottery wins are real ?
    There is actually some interesting reasons to think that they are fake, too.

    We might know of someone who has won money from the lottery, even thousands of dollars; but no one knows of anyone who won the big prizes, or even knows anyone who knows someone who did.
    They all have stories that touch our hearts, families out of work that can now buy Christmas presents for the kids, things like that.
    But if you look up any of the big winners on the internet, they don't say anything about them except for the name and that they won the lottery on such-and-such a date.
    We assume that anyone who wins this much money has to move somewhere and protect their privacy and that is why we never hear anything more about them; but maybe that is not true. Maybe these people never existed to begin with .
    Here is an interesting video that shows them actually posting a number before it was even drawn. How could that happen ? And was it some kind of coincidence that the correct number immediately comes popping out of the bubble ?
    Watch and see what you think.
    It seems to me that playing the lottery for smaller numbers that are actually something a person can win makes a lot more sense than trying for the powerball jackpot if it is not really being given to anyone after all.

     
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    I am still working on the answer to that question, @Patsy Faye ; but thus far, the possibility of actually winning one of the multi-million dollar jackpots is not looking favorable at all.
    However, they have to actually give awa y SOME prizes to keep people's hopes up; so along with the sentimental stories we hear about the supposed winners, there are enough smaller prizes that people do actually win.
    It seems like someone here on this forum won a fairly large sum, like $10,000. @Ike Willis , if i remember right.
    So , we can all say that we actually "know" someone real who won lottery money.
    At this point, I am thinking that trying for one of the smaller amounts, maybe up to even $100,000 would be possible.
    That sure is not as wonderful as that imaginary vision of winning the Mega-millions; but if it is real and the mega-millions is a hoax, then it makes more sense to me to try for a prize that is real.

    One interesting quote is this one from George Orwell's famous book, "1984". He very accurately describes how our lottery system works .
    http://www.goodreads.com/quotes/450335-the-lottery-with-its-weekly-pay-out-of-enormous-prizes-was
     
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    What insight that man had ............
     
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  5. Babs Hunt

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    Well I shared this on another tread before, my Cousin's wife's parents won the Lottery in Louisiana quite a few years ago and they set up their winnings so that it was shared with their kids. Each year for the rest of their lives they all got so much and my Cousin and his wife always used part of their share to help someone in need. One year it was my Mom...our central heating went out...and they paid for a brand new air and heating system for our home and we sure were thankful for that.

    Also one of my son-in-law's sister's won $10,000. on a scratch off ticket her husband had put in her Christmas stocking a few years ago.

    Now besides that I have actually watched some TV shows about people who won the Lottery...and how their lives were after winning. I can't remember what Channel these shows were on but it was definitely a cable of dish channel. Many of the people who won spent all their money right away, others paid off their bills and maybe bought a new house and car, took a cruise or trip they had always longed to take. Most of them shared their winnings with their Family in one way or the other. And some even kept their jobs even with their big winnings and kept living the life they had lived before their winnings basically. I have seen at least 3 of these shows in the past. And it was interesting to see what people did after they won....and also to see that those who weren't happy or satisfied with their lives before winning, ended up for the most part still being unhappy and disatisfied even after their winnings. And they spend their winnings quickly in most instances too.

    Many times people who win the Lottery..especially if it is a large sum...do choose to stay out of the lime light as they have learned that when they don't there is all kinds of friends, family, and strangers,etc. bugging them constantly for money. And there are many people trying to sell them all kinds of things, or want them to invest their winnings, etc. It has been overwhelming for many winners to deal with all this plus all of a sudden "everyone" knows who they are, where they live, etc. and this does not turn out to be a good things for many of the winners.

    So yes, real people do win the Lottery. Yet there may be some misdealings going on with some Lottery games. I know one thing...I think that way to much tax is taken out of the winnings!
     
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    Yes, I won $100,000.00 in 1994. Since then however, the state made the games harder by adding more numbers etc.
     
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    Not only did they add numbers but instead of having actual balls that pop out they have computer generated numbers which I do think is scam. But I think they have to let someone win sometime or no one would play at all. They also use to let you play almost right up to the drawing time. Now the cut off time is a couple hours before the drawing so the computer has time to run all the combos ahead of time'
     
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    A friend who works in the lotto office said that jackpot winners are given an orientation by a psychologist and financial adviser. That is to make sure that the winner is armed with enough knowledge on how to handle the money. I think that is a good protection they can give especially if the winner happens to be a poor guy who knows nothing about handling big money. He would be susceptible to scams.

    I think I have already posted this news item. A lotto jackpot winner was murdered while asleep and the mastermind was his wife. It turned out that the wife had the husband killed for a reason that was not clear. And there was this other news that a guy who won the lotto jackpot twice and still remains poor because he had squandered his millions in the casino. There are lots of stories in the archive of the lotto office and I'm sure they are amusing. In fact, some 5 years ago, there was this tv serial with the title Lotto that is a dramatization of the life of actual lotto winners.

    For me? I admit that I buy lotto tickets once in a while and I'm not lucky even with the consolation prize.
     
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    Despite the overwhelming odds against it, I still choose to think that someday I will win the lottery. I don't buy nearly as many tickets as I used to, and neither do my family members, since the number of winners seem to have declined, as the games have been made harder to win.

    A former co-worker's mother won the 'weekly grand', which comes out to $750 per week after taxes. That would definitely come in handy. I don't need to win one of the top prizes. Actually, I'd prefer that those be split among more people, to increase the benefit, rather than having one or two people become massively wealthy.

    I had a client who got a $6 million insurance settlement and a few years later was broke. I can't imagine going through that much money, but I'm sure people come out of the woodwork looking for assistance and some, to scam. If I did win, I'd try to keep that information to myself and a few people I'm close to. I'd definitely help others, but not in a loud way, because I wouldn't want to call attention to myself that way. I'd set up at least one foundation to help others, especially those who could receive a lot of benefit from small amounts of help, or access to things such as low interest loans they couldn't otherwise qualify for.
     
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    I wouldn't want to win that much money either, I don't need anything really. I would give it to my family. Most of it to my 2 children and I would let them get me whatever I needed.

    @Diane Lane , the $750 a week would be nice..even too much unless I travel. Would I still get my widow's benefits?
     
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    Well it is nice to contemplate, but that is one of the things that always seems to happen to "other people." I guess it is my poor person's mentality...but rather than spending like 10 bucks on Powerball tickets, where the odds are infestimally stacked against you, I would rather have the 10 bucks. My friend gave me like six bucks to spend on Powerball tickets once, and I bought some scratch offs and won on those! I thought I am not going to waste this money on Powerball!
     
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    It does happen. We had a state lottery winner from Millinocket, and there are only a couple of thousand people in Millinocket. In fact, someone who I went to elementary and high school with won the Michigan lottery several years ago, and he's from my hometown of only a couple of hundred. Of course, being a pessimist, I figure that further decreases the chances of a second winner from either of those places.
     
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    Well one thing is for sure...if you don't buy a Lottery ticket...you have absolutely no chance of winning. :)
     
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    I've read that there have been quite a few people that have one more than once so it could happen. Think they were in the same area for all the wins.
    I know someone in Canada that won about 100,000 many years ago. He bought his condo in the Toronto area where he still lives.
     
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    A gas station about a half an hour from here sold a 100.000 dollar winning ticket. I am not sure how much that is after taxes...but I would take it!! That isn't
    really life changing money, but it would certainly make things easier. The first thing I would do would be buy a new car, some new furniture, do home repairs and use most of the rest to pay off the balance of my mortgage! I would have to invest some too. Fun to think about!:)
     
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    I know several people who have won hundreds of thousands. The two that I was referring to won millions, and that does happen. But it's unlikely to happen for me, largely because I rarely buy a lottery ticket. Buying a lottery ticket can make sense if you're not spending more than a few dollars a month on tickets. Most people can afford to spend even $10 a month without missing it, and realizing that they're unlikely to win anything from it. But spending every available dollar on lottery tickets might enhance your likelihood of winning but the odds are still very much against it.
     
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    In 1994 when I won my $100,000, I got to keep $67,000 after taxes. They take about 1/3 in other words.:)
     
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    Wow, Ike Willis, that is fantastic...Hmmm 67,000 is like a years salary in a good job. Still, I would take it!! Free money woohoo! If you don't mine me asking, what game were you playing? Have you ever won any other sizable lottery prizes? Congrats!! I would be so happy.
     
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    In 1994 they had a game called "The daily game". The top prize was $100,000. I was the 100th. person in Iowa to win. Since 1994 they changed the game to make it harder and call it something else now. I seldom play the lottery anymore but have won a couple $20 prizes.
     
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    @Babs Hunt That's exactly my philosophy. I am definitely not going to win if I don't buy a ticket. I usually buy about $4/month in lottery tickets. If I win on those, I usually roll that back into new tickets, unless I win $10 or more, in which case I only spend a portion of that on new tickets. I like the smaller games where I might win less, but I feel my odds of winning are better than the huge jackpots where everyone who's never bought a ticket decides to plunk money down on tickets.

    @Chrissy Page It shouldn't affect your pension unless the pension is need based. If you qualify for some sort of assistance due to being low income, such as Medicaid, winning money could affect it, but otherwise you should be fine.
     
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    The actual operation of legal lotteries is ignominious: disgraceful, and if done similarly by private operation, someone would get tarred and feathered. For a given up-and-coming draw, the sales proceeds, after subtracting "Administration Costs", including 11% off the top (in AZ), returned to the ticket sellers, the remaining pot's contents is revealed for sale to the highest bidder, usually an Insurance Company. They have the dough behind them to absorb the cost of wins, if they occur. If there is no big winner, they keep the money, having bought it for mere pennies on the dollar.

    Crooked as hell, as far as I'm concerned. Payback to ticket buyers is claimed to exceed 50% or more of the gross sales, whereas the "Numbers Bookies" in our major cities only kept < 10%!
     
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    The problem is, the government is running it, and there's no one to oversee them, other than themselves. It probably wouldn't be any different if one of the large financial corporations were running it, their minions that we elect would cover up any improprieties, and get a cut of the action for doing so.
     
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    It's just like gambling, everyone knows the odds. If you spend within your budget, it's entertainment. You might even win though the odds are against it. I would say so far I'm ahead at the casinos, because I never spend much and when I win I quit. Plus I haven't gone more than about 10 times in my entire life.

    I don't buy lotto tickets too much either and haven't won much ever on those but I didn't spend much either and it was fun playing the what if I win game. There's a lot of things people waste money on and get nothing in return.
     
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    That's very true @Chrissy Page. I wish I had all of the money I've spent over my lifetime on alcohol and cigarettes, I'd be able to move out of here and buy a decent vehicle ;), and I stopped both of those expenditures on my own. I don't see as many down here buying huge amounts of lottery tickets the way I saw people doing back home, except in certain areas. There's a convenience store that is fairly close to the port and some industrial plants, and those workers buy an unbelievable amount of lottery tickets on Fridays, which I assume is their payday. I actually took some of the ones they'd put in the trash one time, just so I could see what the expensive scratch ticket games are like, and there was a $15 winner in the bunch. I rarely buy tickets over $2, except occasionally at Christmas, then I might splurge on a $5 ticket. These guys buy $20 and $50 tickets by the handful. I don't know if that means they're addicted to gambling, really hate their jobs, or perhaps a combination of the two.
     
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    I also spent a fortune a cigarettes before I quit, I knew they were bad for me even before all the hype against them began. Yes, they were addicting but addictions can be conquered so that's really not an excuse.

    People just don't think about the consequences of their actions and that's their fault. Only a very few are that stupid that they don't know the odds are against you. It's fun or it feels good is all they're thinking about.

    It's all about self control, will power and choices.
     
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