Why So Rude?

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  1. Brittany Houser

    Brittany Houser Well-Known Member
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    Why do young people think it's acceptable to be rude about other peoples' beliefs? I work with a bunch of 20 somethings who have no qualms about mocking my Christian faith, while "informing" me that I must be a hypocrite because Jesus loves everybody, including Bruce Jenner. While I believe that Jesus loves Bruce Jenner, I will not acknowledge that He is pleased with Caitlyn, although I am sure He loves "her" too. o_O Nor will I ever bow before any rainbow idol, set up by the White House. Point is, where is the "tolerance?" :confused:
     
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    There are none so intolerant than those who celebrate diversity.
     
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    Religious intolerance turns unbearable when it's mixed with diversity intolerance, making hard to deal our own beliefs in God and they way he may look at the people involved in a given fact, regardless what the bible says about.

    Personally, and believing in God besides of the many other beliefs the bible condemns, I have to say there are situations that I don't fully understand and much less how to place my beliefs in to them.

    Bruce Jenner is one of those persons I admired being man, but his transgender revelations and aspirations only earned my respect, as I am respectful of anyone's belief, aspirations or else.

    Now, transformed into Caitlyn Jenner, I don't know what to say. I suppose God loves "her" not a Caitlyn, not as Bruce, but as the human being behind them, but if I'm not clear with this, I know many other people cannot either, and might be much more confused in situations like this.

    However nothing justify rudeness in any instance.
     
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    I am so with you on this. I mean I have my beliefs but I am open to hearing about the beliefs of others. I also don't stand in judment of them for those beliefs. Yet, I have been on another forum in the past where I was downright appalled at some behavior. There was some one person in particular who literally thrashed anyone who believed in God. I couldn't believe it I mean I believe in God but I am open to hearing from those who don't. But having somoene who doesn't tell me that I was a moron for believing was something that I thought was horrible behavior. Its one thing to have our beliefs, but to me its entirely another to force those beliefs onto others. How about being open minded and hearing about their beliefs, we might actually find out some interesting things about their faith if we just stay open minded.
     
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    I deleted the account of one person who registered here a couple of months ago, before he made his first post, because I have come across him in other forums where he was talking about how he enjoyed taking the Christians on. While there is certainly room for disagreement and discussion here, this forum isn't about taking someone on, and I would hope that disagreements occur in good faith rather than being amused by putting someone else down for whatever it is that he or she might believe.
     
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    I tend not to talk about religion online, or with anyone I don't know. I have no tolerance for the intolerance of others'. I really don't see the need to denigrate those who talk about their religion in most cases. If I encounter people who do, I usually avail myself of the Block button, if one exists.
     
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    When Caitlyn Jenner dies, I wonder if St. Peter will be waiting at the gate for Bruce instead?
     
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    I'm with you Diane. I don't see the need to argue with anyone about my belief system. It is a futile endeavor, at best. If I encounter a person who can debate civilly, it's okay with me if we disagree on everything. I have a friend who is a Muslim, and that is the ONLY thing about her that I don't like, so we just don't discuss our religious beliefs much. I do pray for her, but I don't tell her that. :p If anybody wants to "take on Christians," I think Christians need to walk away. If somebody wants to "take me on" about any other subject, I hope they have their seatbelt fastened. :p

    And to Ike Willis: :D:D:D
     
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    He's a transgender science experiment alright. Facts do not love and do not have emotions. I'm just stating the facts that Bruce Jenner's chromosomes possess male DNA through and through.

    I'm a Judeo-Christian and I reserve the right to express facts in disgust. It's also a fact that Almighty God gives rain and sunshine to all humanity-- to all humans embracing truth and those hiding falsehood.
     
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    It's really not worth it. Does anyone really think they're going to change another's beliefs? I know some people feel the need to preach to others, but I have the right to not be preached to, and I leave others alone, as well. I also have friends and even family of many different persuasions, backgrounds, etc. and everyone gets along. It seems often the only conflict is when one tries to change another's viewpoint. Come to think of it, that's what also causes a lot of divorces ;).
     
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    Beliefs are frequently changed. It happens all the time.
     
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    That's true Ken, if both parties can actually have a conversation, about their differing faiths, while allowing each other to be who they are. The problem is, that's a rarity in human nature. We always end up thinking the other person is stupid, and we tend to express that with scoffing or anger. I love my friend, but I can barely tolerate her religion! I don't think I could discuss Christianity with her, unless she asked me to explain it to her, and I don't foresee her doing that.
     
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    Just a little bit of fun. Just want to reiterate: This is comedy video , and act trying to make a point regarding 'freedom of speech'. Radical Islam and Democrats/Liberals compared.

     
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    This reminds me of my husband who seem to be rude when Jehovah's Witnesses would come knocking on our gates. My husband would tell them that he is busy. And those JW would say my husband has no time for God. So my husband would retort with a short lesson about who is God and who those JW are.
     
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    I am so glad to hear this. I have been banned and also quit forums because I wasn't even allowed to say the word God or Jesus.

    (this is in reply to Ken's post number 5). I tried to quote it, but I guess I don't know how.
     
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    APPLAUSE!! APPLAUSE!! Mother told me once that people of good breeding do not speak of sex,religion or politics in mixed company. These are things that are deeply personal and should remain so. It is considered rude to steamroll someone with your personal beliefs.

    I will never forget a number of years ago when I had managed to tear a ligament in my foot and had to go to the doctor on a Saturday. I was young and newly married then, so my husband went with me. What we did not know was that there was a right to life protest happening that day at the medical building. This was a large facility that had all sorts of offices ranging from dentist to OB/GYN. Here I am oblivious to what was happening and this woman runs up to me screaming how I was going to hell for wanting to kill my baby and waiving a bible in my face. I was mortified and very scared, these people appeared and dragged us in the door, with this woman trying anyway she could to stop us. The bottom line was at that moment she made a judgement of me as a woman and a person and what was going on despite evidence to the opposite of a large bandage on my foot. Till this day it makes me angry that there are people that will go to this extreme for what they consider God's work. Judge not least you be judged and leave what is divine to the divine.
     
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    Yes @Ken Anderson beliefs do change, but religious beliefs tend to be very entrenched.
    @Brittany Houser Yes, that's the only way I see beliefs changing. The person has to have a curiosity, and be open to hearing about other points of view. I don't foist my beliefs on anyone, but if someone inquired, I would, and have, discussed the issue.
     
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    I just wonder. What if those violent activists and harmful protesters were paid-to-protest? Their aim is to give well-meaning religious groups a really bad name and aweful media reputation? Next time, take photos of these so-called pro-life activists and investigate who these troublemakers are. Do some detective FBI research. I'd do an intensive investigation to expose these impostors and liars.
     
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    You got it David, right on the mark. People all over the world do things and call it biblical, but in fact, they are just fanatics and some people who don't know any better, just believe it and run Christians down because of it.

    I don't impose my faith on anyone, not friend, not family. Most of my Christian friends are the same as me. We don't talk about it unless we are asked. People who push religion on you are not who they say they are (IMHO)
     
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    We were honored here in my town recently when members of the Westboro Baptist Church came to town to protest the National weather service Storm Forecast Center here. A small group of college students met them to counter protest. It gave our local papEr something to write about.
     
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    I love seeing them chased out of town by Patriot Riders or others.
     
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    Yes, I'm very grateful that in these forums, I can say the word "God", within a sentence, and not be criticized for it. Like, when saying "thank God". In another forum I was in, I would almost get tortured for saying that. I finally had enough and left.

    I did have a Supervisor/Director once tell me "the three things you don't want to get into a discussion with people about is sex, politics and religion. It can turn into World War III."

    My wife loves to write and has written a couple of small Prayer Books. She made a Business Card, but I warned her about who to give it to. So far, she has been lucky and the people she gave it to, took it in a nice way. With the wrong person, that might not happen.

    One thing we don't do in public is pray before a meal. Even though some do it, we don't.

    Discussing religion and politics in public can become a very touchy thing to do.
     
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    I'm surprised that God is a banned word in some places? God is a universal word that is used to denote only positive things so it is strange to me that members of that forum would not only chide you but torture you for mentioning God. If that would happen here, those against God would be ostracized, socially. Our country is predominantly Catholic - some say 90% but statistics lie, I guess it's around 80% or 70% at the minimum. God is a great thing here and prayer is also a standard in any event or gathering.

    Several months ago when my husband was invited as consultant of a movie shoot, the director requested to start the project with a prayer. Before leading the prayer, the director clearly said that she has no religion but she believes in prayer. That's silly, isn't it? My husband took a video of that prayer as evidence of that director's silly act.
     
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    Seems a lot of people are down on organized religion but believe in God. I was born and raised Catholic, but I don't understand some of their doings. Even though I haven't attended any church services for many years, I pray every day. My God is available everywhere, anytime.

    Churches are fine and I enjoyed going at times. However, I'm not a social person. Crowds make me nervous and in social situations with people, I tend to be quiet and reserved. The last time I was in a church the priest asked everyone to turn to the persons around them and shake their hands or give them a hug and say "I love you". This made me extremely uncomfortable. My family isn't into hugging and some of us will barely shake hands with strangers. So, I opted out of the love fest and am content to listen to sermons on TV, occasionally.
     
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    We've lived in northeastern Florida since Jan '09 and still haven't found a church that we are comfortable going to. We've been to five or six. When we lived south of Denver, CO, we attended a church we really liked, but we ended up moving out of Colorado. It had an early service (8:15AM) and after the Service, we would take our power boat out fishing.

    As for me, I'm more into the traditional church and church services. Not that much into the Praise Band. It can sound more like I'm at a rock concert than a church service. And, a lot of "modern day" churches don't sing out of a hymnal, the words are on three big screens. We do have one church here that we attend Christmas Eve Service every year and it's a very nice Service.

    I like watching/listening to Joyce Meyers Ministries on tv and my wife likes watching/listening to John Hagee.

    During my high school years, my step-parents had me going to early-morning church every Sunday. I wound handing out the Bulletin and turning out the sanctuary lights when the minister started the sermon. Was in one church Christmas Play and that was fun. My step-dad went to church, but anyone could tell that it sure wasn't his "thing".
    While in Basic Training in the Navy, I chose to be the Protestant Petty Officer and got all the guys, who wanted to, to go to church on Sunday morning. After that, went to a few church services onboard ship on Sundays, but that was it. My religious days pretty much ended there until I met my second wife in 2000. She bought me a Men's Bible a few years ago for my birthday and I love it.

    I can pretty much tell people who are not religious and REALLY watch what I say around them. Wife and I are very picky with whom we make friends with and that's why we don't have many friends. LOL, but true.
     
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