Whole Milk Or Skim?

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  1. Sheldon Scott

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    Don't drink milk anymore but use real butter and love real cheese.
     
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    Yes, Ike, unprocessed cheese is my nemesis…love love love it….too much.

    Skim Milk isn't as good for us as 2% Milk. With that said though, I don't drink cow's milk. I prefer Unsweetened Original Almond Milk. Whole Foods Brand has the best flavor. It also has, per cup, 25% B12, 25% D, 50% E, 10% Calcium, 10% A, and 2%iron. My daughter makes her own by blending raw almonds and water, that's all…(I think it's best if you soak the almonds in water overnight).

    EDIT: Correction….My daughter, healthyjulie.com. just set me straight. The homemade variety of almond milk have a plethora of vitamins and minerals that are more absorbable because they are completely natural and so your body knows what to do with them. Anything enriched, fortified, or added is synthetically added because there is a major loss of nutrients in processing and preservatives and the FDA requires food to have a certain amount of v&a (?typo but not sure what she meant) to be able to be called food.
     
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    Just want to get my 2% worth in!;)
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    ha, Joe. Oops…my daughter healthyjulie.com just texted me to set me straight on my post #3 regarding homemade almond milk. I said it didnt have as much nutrition and I was way off. I edited it and corrected it above.
     
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    I've been using semi-skimmed milk for as long as I can remember. Not that I drink the stuff, but I use it in tea and on cereals. I suspect if I tried full-fat milk, it would make me feel a bit queasy now.
     
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    Me too, Tom. I have never liked cows milk in any form (except ice-cream :rolleyes: ) but when I was young I used to tolerate skim milk on cereal. Now, I don't eat cereal nor drink skim milk but I do like almond milk in my coffee and in cooking (in place of cream, evaporated milk, and cow's milk). I do have ice-cream and cheese though. And you have skim milk…that's why we haven't become lactose-intolerant.
     
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    Back when people actually drank raw cow's milk, it was a healthy food, and the Mayo Clinic even used milk in some of their medical treatments for people.
    However, once the milk is pasteurized it kills the enzymes ( which can help make you lactose intolerant), and the homogenization also makes the milkfat into smaller particles and it is not absorbed right by the body.
    When I lived in Idaho, I had a milk goat (and have had milk goats on and off over the years), and the natural fresh goat's milk is very healthy.
    If I could keep a goat here in town, I might still have one; but Bobby does not like milk, and I do not use enough of it to justify having the goat. We did have a neghbor lady who had a milk cow and I bought fresh milk from her for a while, and that was wonderful !
    Now, I use the whey-milk and it comes powdered like the non-fat milk does; so I can make up some whenever i need it.
     
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    We usually use a gallon of whole milk a week. We often by buttermilk too.
     
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    I usually buy half and half for my coffee, so when it comes time for cereal or a drink, that's what I use. I never bought into the margarine/skim milk, etc. craze. I have always preferred the taste of whole dairy products, and real sugar, versus artificial sweeteners.

    I am excited that I just bought these jelly bags, so I can start making my own cheese.
     

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    :oops:Too bad that many scientists, dietitians & nutritionists didn't have the right information and now we are paying for it with bad health. At least they are letting us know the truth so we can make good food judgments so we can buy food good for our family. The egg goes through the same thing as milk. So now we can have all the things denied us, to stay healthy, hooray!
     
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    Back in 1960 when I got married, my new wife introduced me to real milk. There was a dairy farm on the edge of town. You could buy gallon glass jugs of milk from them. The jugs had a few inches of cream on top. They had their cows checked regularly and the whole operation was neat and clean. Then, government regulations shut them down. The dairy farm stayed in operation but couldn't sell raw milk anymore.
     
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    Pardon me for being naive but I don't really know what skim milk is against whole milk. All I know is evaporated filled milk as what the label in the can says, same with condensed milk. And what we buy for drinking is fresh milk, that carton of Cowhead that is imported from Australia. We always have that because it tastes good although we mix some choco powder to make it more palatable. Especially for old women like me, we need milk for the calcium requirement of our bones.
     
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    We used to buy the whole raw milk from a local farmer, too, @Ike Willis. The cream on top was so awesome, and we skimmed part of it for coffee cream, and left some in the milk for taste; but even when you skimmed off most of the cream, the skim milk still had a much better taste than the skim milk (or even the 2%) that we buy in the stores nowdays.
    We lived in Washington when we first started buying raw cow's milk, and when the state made it illegal for raw milk to be sold, the farmer closed down.
    However, a week or so later, when we drove by the farm, they had a new sign out, which said "raw milk for PETS" and this is perfectly legal for people to do.
    Since then, that is usually how the farmers are selling their milk.

    Another way that they get around the law is to sell ownership in the milk cow. You are allowed to drink milk from a cow that you own, or co-own. So, if the farmer sells (as an example) 20 shares of ownership in his cow, and then charges for his labor in taking care of her, then he can have 20 people getting milk from him, and doing it legally. I think they call this a co-op.

    @Corie Henson, the difference in regular milk and skim milk is the amount of milkfat in the milk. It should say on the container that it is whole milk, 2% milk, or non-fat milk.
    Even whole milk has most of the cream removed first, but still has more than 2% of milkfat (cream) in the milk.
    If there is no cream left in the milk at all, then it is called either skim milk, or (more commonly) non-fat milk.
     
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    Hmm, that means the whole milk has fats that is not good for us? I have checked the carton of Cowhead just now and all it says is Pure Milk on top and at the bottom it says Fresh Milk. So I am clueless if our milk is whole or skim. But anyway, whether whole or skim, it is the same milk and did not undergo any processing. Am I right on that?
     
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    I looked it up online, and it looks like Cowshead has several varieties of milk, and it should say on the carton if it is either low-fat or nonfat,and calcium enriched, @Corie Henson.
    All of the milk sold here is processed, which means it has been pasteurized and homogenized, at the very least.
    Some of it has added calcium and vitamin D. If it is low-fat or non-fat, then most or all of the cream has been removed. I think that anything over 3% milkfat is allowed to be called whole milk, although "real" milk from a cow has a lot more cream than 3%.
    Since the one that you are buying just says "pure milk", then it is probably considered whole milk, and would say so if it was not.
    If your milk is shipped in all the way from Australia, then is most likely pasteurized, and if there is no cream separating on the top of it, then it is also homogenized.
     
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    I'm not really sure if that carton of Cowhead came all the way from Australia but that's what the poster in the supermarket said. I think Cowhead is the most popular fresh milk here because it occupies a big rack in any supermarket that I go to. So maybe you think that is whole milk? For me, there's not much difference and we are only after the taste. There is a fresh milk with a somewhat undesirable taste, bland and the kids wouldn't touch it without mixing with the choco powder.

    I am attaching the photo of our milk... cowhead.jpg
     
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    Yes, it looks like it comes from Australia, since it says "product of Australia" on the carton. It also says UHT processed, which means "ultra high temperature" processing to kill any germs that might be in the milk.
    I am assuming that you do not see cream forming on the top of the milk; so that would also mean that it is homogenized, which is a procedure that blends the milk and cream together so that it does not separate as it naturally will when it comes fresh from a cow.

    Natural raw cows milk still has the living enzymes in it, so people are usually not allergic to that like they can be to processed milk, but it is pretty much impossible to get fresh milk unless you have your own cow or milk goat, and most kids (and probably adults, too ?) will not even drink fresh milk that does not come out of a carton.
    Most of the time people buy milk by the gallon here, although it is still sold in smaller containers. A gallon costs between $2.50 and $5; depending on the brand and which store you shop at.
     
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    I noticed in the store today that whole milk takes up a very small portion of the milk cooler. There are several brands and varieties of skimmed milk, fat free milk, 1% milk, 2% milk, and the like; and then there are the milk substitutes, like Smart Milk, soy milk, almond milk, etc. But there were only about two options in whole milk, and none in the size that I was looking for. Personally, I don't know that adult human beings are supposed to be drinking milk from another species as it is, since something seems wrong about that, but if we're going to drink milk, why not whole milk?
     
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    They say whole milk is better for you than skim milk….more fattening but more nutrition. 2% is best. I agree that it's weird that we drink milk from another species. I never liked milk so Almond milk is my friend.
     
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    How Do You Milk An Almond?
     
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    We have switched to almond Milk and 1% Milk to avoid lactose issues.
     
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    Whole milk is only 3%, so you're not solving much by paying a higher price for diluted milk. The 1% is barely even white, and it tastes like water.
     
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    Whole milk for sure. With either Ovaltine or chocolate syrup in it.
    I don't mind paying extra for organic milk, but it's hard to find around here.
     
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