Who Smokes Or Smoked

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  1. Tex Dennis

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    Yes, I have been in touch with them just lately and they have shared that it increased the complications of some of their disease like type 2 diabetes and arthritis.
     
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    I smoked my first cigarette during the summer when I turned twelve. I rolled my own for a whie, buying sacks of Dukes and Bull Durham. Shortly there after I bought my first pack of cigarettes on mywalk to school. Smokes two on the wayto school and two on the way home after school. I worked my way up to a half pack a day until I quit school then smoked a pack a day. By the time I went in the Marine Corp I was hooked. Some years later in the army I as a three pack a day guy. In Korea again Idropped back to a pack a day and some days none because we couldn't get smokes on line. During my working career I smoked a pack and a half a day. During the time I smoked I used a pipe andat one time had six or eight semi-expensive pipes. I bought English cake tobacco for six years, then smoked cigars for several years. I've been quite now for nineteen years but every now and then I think how good a good cigar woud taste and finally force such thoughts from my mind. Nicotine is awfully addictive and its difficult to see and realize the damage it can do to our lungs and heart, to those of us who might be effected by the addiction. I'm glad I quit; I was never real sure I could.
     
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    I started around 16 or 17 and went at it heavy til around 40 to 45....last ten years I was loving them clove cigs, which made it extra hard to give up, but once I decided to stop, it wasn't that awful. Of course I found the least painful method possible.
     
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    @Neville Telen
    Which was...>?
     
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    Sorry I thought I had posted this here, but turns out it was another forum:

    The first step to stop smoking is to want to stop more than you want to continue...a lot more. Until you get to that point, nothing can or will change. Willpower plays a key role in breaking any habit, and nicotine addiction is a most powerful habit. You can make breaking this addiction less painful though. I quit about 15 years ago. My method was gradual, nearly painless, as far as withdrawal goes, but very inconvenient (in that lies its strength). It requires you to go out of your way, take the longer tiresome route, and be more stubborn than the habit. If you decide to try it you will need:
    1. kinnikinnik herbal tobacco. About 8 oz.
    2.Cigarette rolling machine
    3. 2 boxes of empty cigarette tubes /w filters (enough for about 400 cigs)
    4. Two cartons of whatever brand of cigarettes you most like.
    5 One box of loose tobacco

    Here are links you can look over:
    http://www.myworldhut.com/products/Kinnick-Kinnick-Traditional-Native-Herbal-Smoking-Blend-Bulk.html
    https://www.amazon.com/TOP-Filter-Cigarette-Injector-Machine/dp/B0035DUYFU
    http://www.thesmokingstore.com/cigarette-machines-injectors/
    https://www.bestgrinder.net/the-4-best-cigarette-rolling-machines/

    The process begins with you opening one carton of cigs, and divide the packs into two even piles. First pile you chain smoke until you feel sick. First pack of the second pile: for every 5 cigarettes you smoke you have to roll and smoke one kinnikinnik cig. Second pack: for every 4 cigs you smoke you have to smoke 1 kinnikinnik. Third pack: for every 3 cigs you smoke you have to smoke 1 kinnikinnik. This process continues until you are smoking 1 kinnikinnik for every cig. Continue doing this until you have smoked the very last cigarette. Stage two begins.

    Mix three parts loose tobacco to one part kinnikinnik, and roll out enough cigs to fill up three empty packs of cigs. When those are gone, mix two part tobacco to one part kinnikinnik, and roll those up to fill three empty packs. When those are gone, mix equal parts tobacco and kinnikinnik to fill up six empty cigarette packs. When that is gone mix two parts kinnikinnik to one part tobacco, and roll up enough cigs to fill three empty packs. If you stick with this method you will reach a point where you are smoking only kinnikinnik. As it takes about three months for the nicotine hold to break, you will continue to smoke the kinnikinnik for that long. After which, you should be able to quit smoking entirely.
     
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    I am truly "blown away" by your post! As one never having been addicted to nicotine, I am completely unable to comprehend the physical feelings of deprivation. I am, possibly, addicted to alcohol, however. Those effects convince me that I should never have scoffed at my friends and cohorts claims that, "I can't quit". My response was to ask them what was the longest time they went without smoking. Mostly, they said, something like a few days, a week, etc. My response was, how about from the time in the womb, till age 15? They knew exactly what I meant.
    Frank
     
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    "how about from the time in the womb, till age 15?"...very easy to go without heroin, valium, nicotine, etc. pre-addiction; not so easy during addiction. Very easy to avoid the bear-trap if you watch where you're stepping; not so easy to get free of it once you are caught. I can only speak for nicotine, but it carries both a physical and psychological addiction. It takes about 3 or 4 months to clear the nicotine out of the body, and break its physical hold. The mental addiction can last about a year more. My method breaks the physical addiction as painless as possible, but only a an iron will can overcome the psychological imperative.
     
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    I started smoking cigars when I was 17 and first started work, gravitating from a pipe to cigarrettes.
    During a short period of unemployment i decided to stop smoking because I wanted to buy a record player. I went through 3 weeks of hell but being a stubborn little sod, I got through it and I have never smoked since.
    I got the record player too.
    It was probably easier for me to quit as I am a bit of a loner and don't feel the need to socialise a lot. I think the " need " to socialise helps to create addiction in people sometimes. How many people took their first cigarrette in order to fit in with the crowd and be one of the guys ?
     
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    Yes I certainly agree with you. In order to overcome your addiction, you should have the willingness to do so. Without actions are just plain words.
     
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    I stopped smoking when I turned 50. I had set that age as the time when I would give up my vices. It took 5 attempts but I am smoke free for 17 years now. I have not had even a cold since I quit smoking.
     
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    Takes a bit more than willingness. That is just the first step. After that is the more important resolve, then comes dogged determination to stay the course and see it through. Making the process of quitting as painless as possible helps a lot (the less excuses you got to abort the better), which is why I choose the method I did. Finally comes willpower.....after three or four months the nicotine hold (physical addiction) is broken, but the psychological addiction persists for about a year more....only willpower will overcome that.
     
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    Yes you're right. Great willpower will definitely solve that.
     
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