Where Is The Outrage Now

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  1. Martin Alonzo

    Martin Alonzo Supreme Member
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    When the US and its allies said that the Syrian government used gas on its own people gathered behind them saying that is terrible but after the UN inspector checked and found that it was a gas that Syrian government did not have the tone changed. Then the US double down saying they have proof but they failed to show it to anyone. These rebels got gas from Libya and that was documented but on mention.

    Now the Russians have proof of gas being used by the rebels and no one seems to care double standard or an agenda.

    Russian experts find evidence of chemical weapons use by terrorists in Aleppo - MoD



     
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  2. Gary Ridenour

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    Assad, with the help of N Korea was caught by the IDF, building a secret underground plant with the aim of developing nuclear weapons. in a preemptive strike they took out this sight killing everyone including the Korean advisers. and I think Iran was involved to. this was in 06 or 07.
    also Syria allowed weapons from Iran to cross its country into the hands of Hamas
     
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    You could be right but the idea of we are going to attack you because you used gas. When the other side uses it every mouth is shut. It only gets talked about if the US wantsto attack you.
     
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    @Gary Ridenour
    Pres. Musharaf was our friend (until he turned out to be a double-dealer). Mubarak was our friend. Until his dictatorial control upset the petroleum applecart. Assad was our friend. Until he too turned against U.S. wishes. Netanyahu was our friend. Until he encountered a U.S. President of far less virtue than any other he had had to deal with. But he is still our friend. That says a lot about the man. A REAL man, in this case. Frank
     
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    The U.S. has for a long time controlled activity in many countries abroad by arranging the installation in power there of various levels of Dictator, ostensibly committed to maneuver by the U.S. Administration. The primary aim seemed to be manipulation of socio-economic events to favor U.S. "standing" in the world-wide status. Before Musharraf of Pakistan, there existed extreme global fear of a nuclear confrontation between Pakistan and India. Both possessed nuclear weapons by then, lots of them. War between the two came mighty close, but was averted. For the time being. Following, Iran waged war with Iraq; neither possessed nukes. During that interlude, Colin Powell, as Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, illegally and clandestinely ordered a bunch of missiles, SAMS, Surface to Air Missiles, be sent to Iran, for their use. Several THOUSAND of them. Turned out, the Iranians, as the top promoter of terrorism, stockpiled them for later use against, guess who? US! Several were used to fire upon commercial jetliners, but fortunately missed. Try to find THAT in the archives of the media.

    Salmon Rushdie, an author, wrote and had published his book, "The Satanic Verses", I think it was entitled. The resulting furor from Iran caused the Ayatollah Khomeini to issue a death call for Rushdie. Before that, the Ayatollah warned of dire consequences should the former Shah of Iran, Reza Pahlavi, be given asylum in the U.S., and as the Shah was dying of cancer, he fled Iran, having looted the country's treasury of "several railroad carloads of gold, silver, and National Treasures". He wound up in Mexico City. His Great Buddy in the U.S. was Secretary of State Henry Kissinger, who simply could not stand seeing this friend and supporter of "The American Way" suffering in Mexico, despite the warning, had the Shah flown quietly and secretly to NYC, where he was treated for his cancer. Might have "flown", except that one of the doctors treating him, having been sworn to secrecy by none other than the US Government, blew the whistle. The immediate result was the taking of the US hostages by Iran, 52 of them, just as promised, to be held in captivity 444 days. The former savior of Iran, supported by the United States, Shah Pahlavi, croaked with little fanfare. It is never clear just who runs Iran, the Dictator installed from without, or the ruling religious leader, always an "Ayatollah". So, Iran is "up in the air".

    Iran has no nukes. Would you give them legal and free entry into the nuclear bomb entity? Obama's treaty requires that they refrain for 10 years. Trust them to comply? Guaranteed, IMO, that just as soon as the Iranians demonstrate, or are proven to have built, nuclear bombs, Mr Netanyahu will deal them the "Death Blow".

    Israel has done it before, destroying nuclear plants capable of producing fissionable bomb materials, quite a few years ago. This is how I remember it, whether 100% or not. Frank

    EDIT: After his overthrow in 1979, the Shah Mohammad Reza Pahlavi was purportedly admitted to the United States for cancer treatment. Iran demanded that he be returned to stand trial for crimes he was accused of committing during his reign. Specifically, Pahlavi was accused of committing crimes against Iranian citizens with the help of his secret police, the SAVAK. Iranians saw the decision to grant him asylum as American complicity in those atrocities. The Americans saw the hostage-taking as an egregious violation of the principles of international law, which granted diplomats immunity from arrest and made diplomatic compounds inviolable

    EDIT: SAVAK was said by families who had experienced the atrocities to have often shown up at folks' homes, demanded to see one or two of their children, then seized the kids, took them away, and they were never seen again. Barbaric? Pahlavi inspired. Fear instills obedience. The poor children, become pawns of a power-hungry regime professing to "benefit the greater overall", by sacrificing the minimal.

    Is the above true? Read of the great strides which Pahlavi accomplished, he being educated in the US, sociologically and economically. Built schools, encouraged education of the masses, encouraged all Iranian citizens to embark upon national value. Encouraged economic development benefitting all. Maybe media B.S.? I don't know.
     
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