Was Hurricane Harvey Engineered?

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  1. Ken Anderson

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    This, of course, is separate from the other thread on Hurricane Harvey because it deals specifically with the theory that the hurricane - and other weather events - may be engineered, and used as a weapon.

    You'll find these theories in several places, but Weather News has a more reasoned discussion of it, I think.

    Source: Natural News
     
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    I guess it's possible but don't think it was done. Lives were lost, that would be murder if found out. These type of things take a lot of people knowing....and people just can't keep quiet.


    Haven't they tried stopping theses types of destructive weather happenings? Thought I read awhile ago about stopping a tornado...that would be a good use of science and technology.

    At least tame the weather somewhat.
     
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    I would think that's forward thinking but that technology unavailable at the present time. Should someone have developed such a technology it would surely have to be tested. Someone would have detected it, some intelligence agency somewhere. If we had it we might have already used it against North Korea. Conspiracy theories can be and many are developed from many sources. This one me thinks we need not worry about in our lifetimes.
     
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    If it were done, it would be a segment of the government doing it, and I think they'd be likely to test it here, where they can control the coverage, before bringing it to the international stage. It is also quite possible that the goal is to persuade people that global warming is really a problem worth letting government have its way with us, and to accomplish some other political objectives along the way.
     
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    I have to say this even if it gets me banned.

    I think that is the most ridiculous conspiracy theory I have ever heard. Do you think this one was engineered and steered?


    The Great Galveston Hurricane was a Category 4 storm, with winds of up to 145 mph (233 km/h), which made landfall on September 8, 1900, in Galveston, Texas, in the United States, leaving about 6,000 to 12,000 dead. It remains to the present day the deadliest natural disaster in U.S. history.
     
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    No, I don't think it possible. Even if it were, be difficult with our government and our system of government. Even so, while I think conspiracy theories can easily be cooked up, this one is walking out on the plank.
     
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    I (of course) totally agree that this is not only possible; but is very probable, and I think it is leading us a little further down the path towards total government control, just as the racist violence that is being promoted does.
    Weather modification is not a new thing, and our government has had patents for this for at least the last 50 years. This does not mean that everything that happens was made to do so by weather modification; but I do believe that when the opportunity presents itself, that our government has the means to influence our weather.
    We can modify weather by use of HAARP, which produces ELF waves, and can also heat up the atmosphere. So, if there is a hurricane already headed into an area, a "hot flash" of plasma from HAARP can totally heat the hurricane up and make it much more severe than it normally would be.
    Obviously, we have had some severe storms for centuries, way before anyone even considered weather modification; and this kind of a storm can certainly happen all on its own.
    But it can also be done with weather modification, and that is what the point of this conspiracy thread is about.
    I am not trying to convince anyone that this is what has happened with the hurricane in Texas; but it IS a good topic for people who want to discuss conspiracies to consider and discuss.

    Here is an interesting page that goes into the history of weather modification.
    https://weathermodificationhistory.com/
     
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    Some of you may have noticed that I didn't say that I believe this is what happened. However, neither do I dismiss it out of hand because I believe that there are those in our government who are both capable and willing to do it if it advances an agenda.
     
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    I don't doubt for one minute that they are willing to do it. However, the fact remains that Texas has always been a victim of horrendous hurricanes. How about California earthquakes? Do you think they are a conspiracy?
     
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    Are we talking about the same government that can't properly operate, oh, a toll booth?
     
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    True, but in the other Hurricane Harvey thread, the global warming / climate change theorists are making the argument that something awful must be going on because Texas got hit with a hurricane.

    If this is a normal weather event, then it shouldn't be used to advance a climate change agenda. If not, then it may have been engineered for just that purpose.
     
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    Sometimes, I just love how your mind works......
     
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    False dichotomy. It may be a "normal weather event" or it may be "due to global warming" or it may be because "God wants to punish Texas" or it may be because of "the recent solar eclipse" or whatever. All of which are more plausible than "engineered for just that purpose".
     
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    Thank you for your opinion, but that's all it is.
     
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    That's all any of this is. There are very few facts out there now days.
     
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    Here is an interesting report from the Trans-Pecos Weather Modification Association in Texas.
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    I hesitate to voice a pro or con opinion. However, it must be pointed out that quite a number of exceedingly complex and cutting-edge breakthroughs have been produced via government efforts. To "write-off" "government" as a uselessly helpless ninny might be precisely what government would love
    to have us do. Then free-reign to operate in any way it chooses might exist, as a result of the masses simply ignoring them.

    First controlled fission leading to control of nuclear events: Enrico Fermi, government backed.

    First uncontrolled fission leading to nuclear explosion: Los Alamos, government-backed absolutely.

    First system to make an object "disappear" from common sight: government-developed.

    First successful aeronautic capability leading to space-travel: ditto

    First to tax it's "subjects" so cleverly, they are completely deceived by it: ditto.

    This stuff is way beyond fleecing folks via toll booths.

    Frank
     
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    If it were the government which is totally possible and to think if they had that capability we would know. The atomic bomb 100.000 people worked on it but no one knew anything about it till it was used. The government would not kill its own people well I don't know how many died in the Vietnam War which the government started on a lie so they are responsible for all those deaths. I think the deep state government has the ability to use weather as a weapon and they could care less who they kill to make money. They might be steering the next hurricane into the gulf as well.
     
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    I just watched a video that is pretty interesting, and you can see on the radar map when the HAARP waves (or whatever you call these things) shoot across the ocean. This is a long video; but this guy seems to spend all of his time repeating everything over and over; so after you watch long enough to see the weather map with the HAARP beams across it, you have pretty much seen what is worth seeing.

     
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    @Martin Alonzo
    Why would they not? Moral grounds? Obedience and servitude to their constituents? When expediency demands it, I personally have little doubt that government, ANY government, will NOT refrain absolutely from killing it's own people. This of course is completely circumstance driven. Stalin's government, for example, during time of extreme strife, burned grain and foodstuffs to cause elimination of the very elements dragging the country down: the ELDERLY, the SICK, the CRIMINAL, and those opposed to government decree. This philosophy of course won over those willing to blindly accept becoming subjects. Stalin adhered to, and promoted the thought that given extreme duress, those surviving would be amongst the strongest, and most desirous of surviving. And they did survive, surprisingly so dedicated to the murderous bastard (sorry, Cory!), who had killed off perhaps 20 million of their less fortunate, that upon his death, they regarded him as Deity, thousands waiting in lines to move past to view his stinking corpse in sub-freezing weather, to pass last regard to an almost inhumanly brutal "leader".

    Thus, is the lack of guile revealed. Frank
     
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    @Yvonne Smith I should like to know more about these "HAARP" waves you speak of. (??) Frank
     
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    Here is a website that explains a little bit more about the various potential dangers from ELF (extreme low frequency) waves. This does not specifically go into the modification capabilities; but is more of an explanation of what these ELF waves can do to the earth and the human body.
    This will keep you reading and thinking for a little while, and there is lots more info to be found with an internet search or on youtube if you want to learn more.

    http://thechemtraildiary.weebly.com/haarp--gwen--elf.html
     
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