Vatican Takes Refugees

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  1. Gary Ridenour

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    there's is one born every minute
     
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  2. Gary Ridenour

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    we have the same problem here we did in Nam. they all look alike just saying
     
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    Somehow... and I may be wrong, but it's my opinion, I think a lot of it has to do with the ridiculously foolish PC garbage that has gotten way out of hand. It's like we wouldn't DARE offend anyone, whether or not they'd rather slit our throats than look at us (eeeew, way graphic, Mari... sorry!) It's been surreal for the last decade or so. Nightmarish.

    I will NOT sway my head with my blinders on and sing Kumbaya with individuals who would be tickled pink to rid the world of my family. What the devil's it going to take for people to wake up? Don't answer that... we've already seen it and they forgot in a very short time.

    Uh... thanks for listening, @Gary Ridenour ... and you don't even know me :oops: :)
     
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    :):):)
     
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    I don't think it was really hard for the Pope to pick those Refugees since the Catholic Church sent "Missionaries" over there to "christianize" the Muslims, etc. So these are probably a couple of families that they ministered to and who has begun the process of becoming Catholics.
     
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    All look alike? Really? . Currently, I work with Syrian women and children who are suffering from PTSD as a result of horrendous wartime experiences. I assure you, they are as individual in appearance as the average westerner.

    To say otherwise, seems to this Canadian to skate perilously close to racism. I realise, of course, that Canada and America are two distinct countries, with various cultural differences. If I have somehow misunderstood the context,
    I apologise. Perhaps someone would be kind enough to explain?
     
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    http://www.mrctv.org/videos/bachman...ecific-purpose-destroying-western-christendom
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  8. Sacheen BrightEagle

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    With respect, the paedophilia rampant among the Pashtun segment of Afghan society, is no more representative of Muslims as a whole, than my childhood experience at the hands of western paedophiles, who used obscure

    religious texts as a screen for their perversions, is indicative of the morality or mindset of true Christians. Two of the paratroopers who rescued me from the streets all those decades ago, were Muslim. They saved my life.
     
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    As upsetting as photos can be, often the same photo is used over and over to represent an entire group of people. I know the photo of the old guy kissing the kid is one that I have seen posted dozens of times and, although they may not state this, the idea that it is intended to convey is that this is what all Muslims do. I know that is not true because I have a friend who is a Muslim and he would never do that sort of a thing.

    We know this when we come across a photo of someone who looks like us doing something abhorrent because we all know a lot of people who look like us who wouldn't do that, so we don't consider for one moment that one photo represents the whole group. But when we don't actually know anyone within that group, sometimes all we are left with is the photo, and it doesn't paint an accurate picture.

    No, I don't think we should be taking in hundreds of thousands of refugees from Syria, not because of their religion or appearance, but because we are at war with a lot of people from Syria and we have no way of knowing whether the people we are bringing in are the enemy. There is also the fact that we don't need more people here. I don't think we should have been over there to begin with, interfering in things that were none of our business, but we are and, regardless of who is to blame, we are at war, and it's dangerous to bring the enemy into your country during a war, and I don't care what the Pope has to say about it.
     
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    What you or anyone else has to say about the Pope actually doesn't really matter. It's probably the same feelings I have for your weird religions in my view. So, another thread I'd like to be left out of.
     
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    Thanks Ken, for further clarity around that disturbing picture.
     
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    I think she meant that a good, peaceful, person and a terrorist look alike. You can't tell by looking which is which. So saying they all look alike is in no way racism.
     
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    In my experience, those who rail against "political correctness" tend to be those that are effectively saying, "How dare these do-gooders challenge my right to be a loud-mouthed, obnoxious bigot."
     
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    "To say otherwise, seems to this Canadian to skate perilously close to racism" wow is he calling me a racists. can't come out and just say it. uh huh. actually i am a racists. since the liberals amended the constitution to included the PC laws. I spoke out against Obama so now now im branded. isn't it pretty?? im not going to sit here and pretend i know about Canadian immigration laws cause i don't. i can't do nothing about it anyway. but maybe brighteagle there can tell us good from bad, we need to know. he can have em all far as im concerned.

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    did you know Muslims helped Hitler hunt down and murder Jews??
     
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    Of course. If you don't toe the government line and believe everything they tell you, you're a racist. We can't have people thinking for themselves, you know. Who knows where that might lead.
     
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    so stay in line like all the little duckies

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    Almost half my family are Jews. My great uncle has a tattoo from Dachau. Do they hate the Germans? No. Why should they hate Arabs? Mr. Ridenour, at no point did I call you a racist. I merely expressed concern that, to a Canadian, your comments seemed headed in that direction. I also acknowledged the differences in our two cultures, admitted I might have misunderstood, and asked for clarity.
     
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  18. Ken Anderson

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    Political correctness is designed to stifle communication. If we stick to issues, we don't have to worry about labeling anyone as a racist or anything else. If it turns out that someone is racist, what better way to change a mind than through conversation. There are plenty of reasons not to want to bring a bunch of Syrian refugees into the United States. Here are a few.
    1. We can't afford it.
    2. We have too many people out of work here as it is.
    3. We are at war with Syrians so it's reckless to bring potential enemies into the country.
    4. Bringing that many people at one time makes assimilation difficult and unlikely.
    Any one of those, all by itself, is enough reason not to bring them here, and only one of them can even remotely be considered racist, and that's only if you consider assimilation to be a racist goal. There, we would have to agree to disagree.
     
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    Yes. Political correctness is nothing more than a way to get people who disagree with you to shut up so that you can pretend that everyone agrees with you. That is a part of what keeps people apart.
     
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    little doubt in my mind this is NOT a rescue its a full blown invasion. a Trojan horse

    and we foot the bill to boot
     
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    forget it man. i didn't come here to make enemies. no hard feelings on my part.

    BTY i served with a Naval officer in Nam whose entire family was wiped out by the Nazi's. he still visits the camps they died in and lays flowers to this day
     
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    Thanks for your comment Gary. No hard feelings on my part either. I have a huge respect for veterans. Most of the people I have worked with over the years have been vets suffering from PTSD. Their immense courage is both

    humbling and inspiring. It is my honour and privilege to support these incredible men and women who have given so much for their country. Salut, mes amis!
     
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    I like how you think, Sacheen - are you a single guy?
     
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    I am single, yes.
     
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    Maybe we could meet up sometime ...
     
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