Then, it would follow that the failure is through the dynamics of teaching and not necessarily the student, which is pretty much what I have been arguing. And yes, I do heartily agree that higher conceptual math should not be a prerequisite for a graduating student. Most of my angst does come from the fact that when I hear or read anyone making random excuses for the lack of excellence especially if it reads like an entire race is somehow mentally in deficit, it tends to bring the blood pressure up. I used to run an ILS program for the nearly and totally illiterate and I saw some amazing results in all aspects of base and even higher education and race had absolutely nothing to do with how a student performed.[/QUOTE] I agree. Race has nothing to do with inherent ability. It ‘s just that, unfortunately, many black students do not have the benefits of good schools. I don’t think this is a random excuse, but a fact. Also, the professor should not have brought the words “White Privilege” into the conversation.