Trump Says Putin, Russia Election Interference Is Fake News

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  1. Kalvin Mitnic

    Kalvin Mitnic Well-Known Member
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    So, :cool:how does he blame Obama admin. now for not stopping the Russian election interference during the election.:rolleyes:

    Uh? Sucking and blowing at the same time comes to mind. ;)
     
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    He needs to keep up :p
     
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    I, for one, do not believe that we had any Russian influence during the election. However, if there was some happening, and Obama didn't take care of it (or at least bring it out at that time), then it happened during his presidency, so he is responsible.
    Obviously, they all thought that Hillary was winning, so no one wanted to say that the Russians were interfering since it would have looked like they were helping Hillary if it was brought up during the election process.
    Once they realized that Trump had won the election, then they decided to blame that on the Russians. If Hillary had won, we would never have been hearing that the Russians interfered , even if they did do that.
     
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    Honestly Yvonne, I roll my eyes more at politics than anything else :rolleyes:
    If you didn't laugh about it all, you'd go :mad:

    @Yvonne Smith
     
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    Ive had it with politics and religion!
     
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    Yea - that too ! .............:p
     
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  7. Martin Alonzo

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    Anything coming out of the main street media is BS. Just remember they all agreed and had proof of weapons of mass destruction with oficial government proof. The election where they had Hillary guaranteed to win by 80% with all there pol evidence. They go on and on over Russia like a bunch of spoiled brats not willing to think their god Hillary could have lost. How many news media have said they have unknown sources, or government employee giving them the story. Every time we ask the government to verify there information they say they cannot because nation security. On the other hand you can not refuse anything they want or they will say if you have nothing to hide then you will tell us, dose that not go both ways
     
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  8. Kalvin Mitnic

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    You're entitled to believe what you want,say what you wand and offer an opinion. Good for you. But while you're entitled to such you're not entitled to your own facts and there seem to be plenty of facts on the subject. Just a few that are listed.

    https://www.google.com/search?q=what+agencies+have+proof+of+russian+hacking&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8
     
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  9. Martin Alonzo

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    Your right the web is full of fake news you done a google search and brought up CNN, NYtimes, Wire.com ABCnews the hill.
    All these gave Hillary 80% chance of winning the election so they are fake news
     
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  10. Martin Alonzo

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    CNN had to admit and retract they put out fake news about Trump and the Russian connection

     
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  11. Bobby Cole

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    Now, do tell me what or rather " how" you found out that what those agencies report isn't as fake as rock hard ta-ta's?
    Research is not dependent upon what the media of any kind has to allow but what we actually know to be true by hands on experience and fact finding study.
    We can speculate, reiterate, opine on clandestine politics and military matters and even, like your statement indicates, .....pontificate through problematic promiscuous poo namely the leftist agendized media.
    The bottom line is that to imagine truth or find the truth are two different matters and using your resources in the quest for truth is.....unimaginable.
     
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  12. Martin Alonzo

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    I think we mostly agree that this is BS no major hacking took place and the DNC server was kept out of the way, not to be examined by the FBI who has been on Hilary's side all through this.
     
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    Podesta's password was "password" and, for that matter, he stupidly gave it to someone during a phishing attempt, which is not hacking. Hillary destroyed her servers and the DNC never allowed anyone to view their servers so I don't know what evidence they could have of Russian hacking. I am sure they tried to influence our elections, as we have influenced other foreign elections, but we know for a fact that our own intelligence agencies have interfered with the 2016 election and have been trying to overturn the results of that election.
     
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  16. Martin Alonzo

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    It was funny when Putin said we gave 400 million dollars to the Hilliary's politico campaign it was not in any news feeds. The news has a one track mind if Putin offered Trump one dollar it would have been a bribe but 400 million dollars is not mention.
     
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    I think that the Russians probably did meddle in our election and try to sway the results.

    IMO the best thing to do about such meddling by the Russians is to remain vigilant and when they breach a firewall, fix the weak spot and remain silent about it. The Russians are by nature tricksters and they like to play rough and tumble pranks, they feed off of the noise and the flap created by the media and the politicians in Washington. The absolute worst thing that we can do to them is to ignore their efforts and make them wonder if we even noticed the meddling.

    I don't think that dealing with Russia will ever be any different. IMO we need to remain cordial and business-like in our dealings with Russia while checking and double checking everything we do with them every step of the way. IMO the Russians will have more respect for us if we take their jabs in stride and not make a fuss every time we catch them pulling a dirty trick on us.
     
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    I have gotten from several sources now that the Russians thought they were putting Hillary in a compromised position but they never dreamed that Trump would win the election. Putin apparently holds a grudge against the Clintons for NATO expansion into Russian prevue, Syria, etc. Trump did seem to act a bit submissive at the press conference with Putin, although I didn't see the entire thing so context might be a factor. I can't explain the subdued mien; it wasn't typical of Trump in view of how he has acted toward other national leaders.
     
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  19. Martin Alonzo

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    If Russia was the result Trump wining . We better just give up now. If the Russians could control thousands of people not to go to a Hillary rally and instead go to a Trump rally by the thousands if they had that power we might as well just give up and stop complaining. That is what the Democrats want you to believe.
     
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    Russians didn't control anyone. They simply put ads on Facebook, etc. and were given inside info on the DNC by an insider who was disgusted by what was happening to his party.
     
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  21. Martin Alonzo

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    Could it be they are on the same side fighting the deep state. Putin has been fighting this fight for years and Trump is just a new comer but has more power. Go Trump and Putin
     
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    Don Alaska .
    That is just my attempt of showing how stupid this whole thing is. There is no collusion and never was. The anti Trump can not git over their hate rid to see anything even facts
     
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    President Obama speaks on the US response to Russian hacking, which was, of course, considered by one and all to be the correct response.

     
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    What we are seeing here is feigned outrage, intended to distract us from the facts, as we have learned them, which is that our own intelligence agencies interfered with the 2016 presidential election and have continued to disrupt the Trump presidency ever since.
     
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    I think there is more than feigned outrage, Ken. Much of it is very real. There are veiled threats of mass resignations (true, rumors only), but I was disappointed that Trump was totally outmaneuvered by Putin. I guess Trump isn't the deal maker he thought he was, but I thought he had dealt with Russia before as a private citizen. He expected a warmer response from Putin and didn't get it. I agree he shouldn't blindly trust the intelligence community that is "out to get him", but he should keep most of that distrust private. Now we will have to see what this leads Putin to do to further test Trump, and what Trump will try to do to recover from his greatest faux pas to date.
     
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