Trump Losing Ground

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  1. Martin Alonzo

    Martin Alonzo Very Well-Known Member
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    He talked about not founding NATO and then sends more troops. NATO has only one purpose that is to confront Russia which he said we should try and get along with.

    He has allowed the left to make him give up Flynn. He should not of accepted his resignation but say I will get rid of anyone is my cabinet and not be told by the opposition to do so. Flynn was ready to take apart the intelligent system that has been and still are stabbing Trump in the back. Last person who even mention this was Kennedy. So the deep state is getting its way.

    Then he sends a prize to Saudi Arabia for helping fight terrorism. Donald are you that far gone or has the man in black visited the White House and tell you what you can and cannot do.
     
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  2. Kalvin Mitnic

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    Trump's popularity rating is dropping to the level of Putin's in the Ukraine.
    Trump's rating is getting so low,so very low, really low, that SNL skits are the good news.
     
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    I just read on USA Today which never has any pro trump articles that the economy is booming right now.
     
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  4. Martin Alonzo

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    Trump approval rate by the polls is going up and he is fulfilling what he promised. He also is putting himself into a position of having people around him with the opposite objective as him.
    After stating his opposition to NATO he sends more troops to the Russian border.
     
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  5. Ken Anderson

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    If you haven't figured out by now that you can't judge Trump's performance by whether or not the media approves of him, then you are simply going to believe what the media wants you to believe. Everything that I come across talks about how Trump's approval rating is at an all-time low, and that it's lower than Obama's was at its very lowest. In fact, I had to search pretty hard to find the Rasmussen poll that says that 55% of Likely U.S. Voters approve of President Trump’s job performance. That one is being fully ignored though, as the media prefers to hype another poll that gives him a low approval rating. Never mind that these were the same polls that showed Hillary Clinton winning by a landslide. He's doing fine. He wasn't elected by people who believe that their opinions have to be vetted by the media, since these people are willingly lost to the truth anyhow.

    The media is playing the same game now that they were playing during the campaign. They are continuing the Hillary campaign without Hillary, as that seems to be the only game they know, and it won't work anymore now than it did in November. Enough people are awake today and, if anything, the media is less trusted today than it was a few months ago.
     
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  6. Denise Happyfeet

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    Right on the "nail" as always Ken. I haven't even listened to any news until yesterday, and only had one thought, once an ass, always an ass about Paul Ryan and his cronies.

    I trust Trump and refuse to spend time listening to propaganda over and over. I believe that Trump is doing the best job he can do, especially when he is facing some amazingly rotten people.
     
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    Ya know,had the tables turned and Hillary had won, there still would be distrust, protests, secrets, and a host of other things...just like now. Trump is doing what he feels is right-but this does not make him right. The only things about him, that truly bother me- is too much grown family in the WH- he never seems to answer a direct question, appears to act too full of his self- well those are the main things. I do think,that signs of stress are already beginning to show and he very well may be bald by the end of his term:p...oh and i really dislike the constant red tie flapping around in the wind...:D
     
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  8. Denise Happyfeet

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    I think it's hard, for me at least, to look at accomplishments, rather that personalities. It's important to me to look at people's actions, and our President is a people. I see so many amazing things Trump has accomplished. I just think his good outweighs his bad. I can always look at the "alternative" our country had if I ever get fidgety about Trump not being perfect.
     
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  9. Patsy Faye

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    I like that - so even though he worries me, you make a fair point Denise
    Hope he turns out 'trumps' for you and the US :)
     
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  10. Martin Alonzo

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    I was all in favour of Trump and hoped he could save the U.S.A. He was saying the right thing and for someone running for president is surprising. Now I think someone has sat him down and told him what he allowed to do if he wants to live.
    1 he promise to do something about immigration there is a law put in place in 1952 which all it needs to be done is enforce it he does not need a special order which can be stopped. So why go that way???
    2 Talked about getting out of NATO and then he sends more troops to the Russian border and did not bring them back. The NATO has one purpose that is to attack Russia.
    3 Talked about stopping funding the UN and reversed his opinion after he got in. The UN is the beginning of the New World Order.
    4 Obama care – Albert Einstein said doing the same thing over and over again and expecting a different result is insanity.
    5 Draining the swamp how come all these judges that are giving him a problem are still in office, How come James Comey who still saying the Russians are involved somehow is still there.
     
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    @Martin Alonzo - maybe he thought 'he' had the upper hand and could shut people down that interfered
    as he has done all his life.
    Different ball game now, not so easy
    BTW - don't give up Martin
     
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    I'm soooo pulling for your home too @Patsy Faye.
     
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    You know I respect your opinions @Martin Alonzo but I think to have such high expectations on one man, let alone people, is not something I can do. I knew what he would be facing, and also, I'm not saying your feelings aren't valid. I just never expected him to change all that is wrong in his short time in office. It's taken centuries now for Americans to either make America what it is today, or at least, sit back and allow it to happen. Trump stepped up to the plate, really, pretty much the "unknown", but who else would do better? That's why I will support him, even if he fails to complete all the promises I "believe" he so wants to keep.
     
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    His latching onto Paul Ryan's plan to rename ObamaCare and call it a repeal, and making it his own, has lost a lot of his support, and now he's doubling down by threatening to primary the Republicans who wouldn't vote for it. The Freedom Caucus was left out of the negotiations until they had their plan, and then they called them in only to see if they could toss them a few bones to get them to vote for it. We are far better off if we keep ObamaCare in Obama's name, in my opinion, and I don't think there are very many people who couldn't see through the scam of calling an amendment to it a repeal.
     
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  15. Martin Alonzo

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    Trump has not stopped the unvetted immigration into the USA. He did not need to make any laws to stop them. I think that was planned to look like he is trying to do something and being stopped. If they want to bring in people under death threat bring in the white South Africans who are being threatened and killed daily.

    We thought that Trump would bring the U.S. peace and talk to the Russians but now sending even more troops to the UN which he said we should pull out of. He said when being elected we should let Russia handle ISIS because they are doing such a good job and now sending their army into Syria. No one is looking for the ten+ trillions of dollars that have gone missing. Just like the three trillion dollars that went missing in the Pentagon and funny that is just where the [plane] hit so all the information was destroyed.
     
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  16. Denise Happyfeet

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    I've always found you to know what you are talking about in these things Ken so I believe what you are saying is truth. I didn't watch any of this lately, I mean news, but you have a good handle on it. I never understood how Trump could trust someone like Ryan after all he said during the campaign, and I do believe Trump was doing what he thought was best. I sure agree with leaving the "mess" called "obamacare" named as it is. I also think at times, we can make a few tweaks to something to fix it, this particular thing didn't fly for Trump, or the people that are so affected by obamacare:(
     
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