The Dumbest Generation?

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  1. Ed Wilson

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    With the opening of schools in the U.S. up in the air, how will the education of our kids be what it was in a classroom. Home schooling won't be consistent between kids. Some have parents who are incapable of taking over their child's education because of work or just indifference. Not all kids are that self motivated to learn and need supervision. I know I would not have been.
     
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    On the other hand, smart children shall soar as they are no longer held back with the herd.
     
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    The herd is what counts. The others are outliers, mutants if you will. Their numbers are so small as not to be statistically relevant.
    The state have an obligation to educate our children to an acceptable level, this has beeen our model and needs to continue to be.
     
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    If I had children today, there is no way that I would subject them to the government schools.
     
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    I had neighbors back north who home schooled their 2 boys. The kids got 1 hours of "screen time" each day: tv, video games, internet, however they chose to split it up. Just one hour. They were two smart little kids.

    I would sit with them when mom & dad did date night. One time the youngest (6 years old?) breaks out the chess board. He did not have a strategy but knew how the pieces moved. I had not played since high school. So we're playing, I moved one of my pieces, then changed my mind and moved it back. As I did my I began recalling the rules: "I forgot. Once I take my hand off of a piece it has to stay where it is, doesn't it?" The kid looks me right in the eye and says "That's the second time tonight you've done that!"

    We would play Boggle and other games. Smart darned kids.

    Parents don't have to be professional "teachers" for the kids to excel. I think in many instances too much structure is stifling.
     
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    We raised our nephew from the age of twelve. After one semester in school here, we homeschooled him. After a few false starts, we hit upon the plan that worked. He had to accomplish a specified amount of work each day, and if he took two hours or eight hours to do it, that was all the same to us. If he wanted a long weekend, he could work ahead and save up for it. Homeschooling is much easier today than it has ever been, with all of the options that are available. If I was going to virtual school, however, I'd choose something other than the government option. I hear that teachers are concerned that parents might listen in on virtual school classes, realizing that yes, it is mostly indoctrination.
     
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    To hear of concern that parents might become "too involved" is infuriating, but not surprising. This is what happens over a period of time...government and bureaucracy decide that we are subordinate to them. Man, I don't have kids, and I'm boiling over such a statement being made!!!! Reminds me of that "Mmm mmm mmm. BuROCK HooSANE OhBAWmah" chant those kids were taught beck in 2008.

    Good for you folks for taking on such a responsibility. What a great idea, giving the kid his lesson plan and the incentive to chew through it.

    Those neighbors I mentioned belonged to a home schooling group. The kids would get together for field trips, putting together plays, etc. I used to do some fossil hunting, both in high school and off & on as an adult (did a local trip with The Smithsonian once.) When the home school group was going through their "dinosaur phase," I dug out my box of fossils and gave their kids some trilobites to hand out to their friends.
     
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    My husband and I were discussing the home schooling deal at dinnertime and agreed that we were glad our 5 kids are grown. :D It occurred to me that if the electronic classroom becomes a "thing," we will need a fraction of the number of teachers, no aging school building facilities to provide maintenance/upkeep, no more lunch ladies, janitors, bus drivers, etc. What a domino effect this could have.
     
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    That could be a good thing. More than half of our property taxes go to the schools and school employees, here, act as a liberal voting block for a whole lot of other unnecessary spending.
     
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    Plus, the uneducated masses will be much easier to mind-control.
     
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    Yes the education system is important it needs regulation on brain washing instead of educating. The old ways that three three R were the main thing taught even though they did not all start with R. The advanced education system has been taken over with socialist/communist propaganda. Some reporter standing outside of universities asking the students questions that a 10 year old should know like on a world map where is the USA and they can not answer. Higher education is just brain washing
     
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    Not really because, as it has been, they've been using our education system for that. Take that mechanism away from them, and we may have more uneducated people but the indoctrination will be slightly more difficult, as it would have to be solely conducted by the media. Families who care will be able to educate their children, with or without the public school system.
     
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    But the welfare state would overtly grow. Since the shutdown, free school lunches that were required "so kids could learn" are now being delivered to their homes...'cause they still gotta eat.
     
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    Juxtapose that against what our founding fathers knew by the time they were in their mid teens, although the masses were likely illiterate.
     
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    True; but since a large percentage of parents are not inclined to home school, the kids will end up parked in front of some computer or TV screen for their education. Subliminal images will be a thing. :D
     
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