Stories Like This Break My Heart

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  1. Chrissy Cross

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    This happened last week at Cal Poly, the University my oldest grandson goes to. A freshman died on his motorcycle. :(

    I just saw this story about the first responders and it made me cry....life is so precious and in one instant it's gone.

    But his poor family will suffer a long time..

    https://www.sanluisobispo.com/news/local/article219956650.html
     
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    Oh yes anything like that is heartbreaking, especially when it's a child, but I hate motorbikes, I wish they were banned tbh...cue uproar from motorcycle riders...I've even had 2 myself but they are so dangerous and so unprotected from other drivers too... I

    What a comfort to the parents that their son was in the hands of caring professionals when he passed, but their hearts will be broken forever. R.I.P young man!!
     
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    Agree about motorcycles!
     
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    Thing is, the story didn't say if the student was wearing a helmet. When not wearing a helmet, riding a motorcycle can be extremely dangerous.

    When I worked in EMS (ambulance driver/attendant), I stood by for motor cross races and even had a DOA at one. One to one accident where the rider let his girlfriend use his helmet. He died at the scene and she lived.

    I could have been killed years ago, because I didn't have a helmet on. Luckily, my head didn't hit the edge of the sidewalk. I've had two motorcycle accidents that were solo (nobody else involved) and both my fault. What's weird though, many riders, after they heal from an accident, will buy and ride another bike. I did exactly that. I got rid of my last one in mid 2002, and didn't renew my motorcycle endorsement. The last one I had, was my only transportation. Had rain gear and a cover for the bike.

    I also feel for the family, but as always, would like to know the entire story.
     
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    He was...here's a section of the story that shows that...



    He and Delavega began performing CPR, starting with chest compressions. When they noticed the shallow breathing stopped, they gently removed Jordan’s helmet, and Delavega began giving mouth-to-mouth resuscitation.

    Also..I don't think Ive ever seen a motorcyclist on Hwy 101 without a helmet....speeds are fast for most of it.
     
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    They removed his helmet to try to revive him. I rode a bike off and on from age sixteen until the early nineties when I had a near accident with a young grandson riding behind me. That was the second time I was really scared while riding a bike. Shortlly afterwards I sold my bike to a police officer. I stll carry memories in my head of two fatal motorcycle wrecks. One was a riding buddy. Another couple I didn't know, but I witnessed the accident. Even today I allow motorcycles a lot of room on the streets and highways because i know there are a lot of inexperienced young ridwers about, and a lot of other drivers who don't see the motorcycle at all until after the accident. Some stories like this haunt me because I know bike riders involved in an accident usually don't stand a chance.
     
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    I think I've mentioned it before in the forum but, as a paramedic, I have never responded to a motorcycle accident in which the motorcyclist lived. Motorcycle accidents tend to be either so minor that EMS isn't called, or they are very serious. I should mention that I haven't responded to a lot of motorcycle accidents because motorcycles aren't that popular in the Rio Grande Valley, but the ones I have been to were either dead on the scene or shortly thereafter.

    I used to ride a motorcycle, as they were very practical in Southern California, where you could ride them year-round, and where they were most helpful in getting out of traffic jams.

    Maine passed a helmet law some years back but it was overturned by a citizen referendum. Nevertheless, although helmets are not required here, I rarely see anyone not wearing one, except in slow-moving things like parades and such.
     
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    Well this happened on the central coast. There's a petition being circulated because that spot has had numerous accidents.

    I'm not sure since he was a freshman why he had the motorcycle.....I just know that freshman can't have cars on campus the first year.

    Maybe he lived off campus, I'll have to ask my daughter.

    Most kids have bikes, so maybe it's considered a bike...who knows?
     
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    One thing about "crotch-rockets" (speed motorcycles), the older teens and above, that have them, like to ride them fast and swerve in and out of traffic. Heck, I can hear these bikes flying down the street by our apartment complex. And, on the freeway, well, if you ever seen one of these "rockets" fly by you and go in and out of traffic, you'll know exactly what I'm talking about.

    Now, obviously, on a "fully-dressed" bike, like a Goldwing or modern Harley, you won't see this. They are much more careful drivers.
     
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    I don't think this accident was this kids fault. In fact it wasn't.

    What I mean is I think he was a responsible enough kid.

    In fact the parents commented that they didn't even want him to ride it that day but figured since he's in college, they should let him make his own decisions....they did say they wouldn't have wanted him driving at night.

    But on the other hand, I agree...Ive seen some crazy riders taking all kinds of risks ...speeding and weaving thru traffic....especially when they ride the lane between the cars...you don't even see them coming.
     
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    Yep, Ken, that's where I rode the motorcycles I had...….in southern Calif. Actually, the first one I ever drove, and all I needed was my drivers license, was when I was in the Navy in San Diego. Use to rent a Suzuki 125 for the weekend. No helmet, back then (late 1968 and on). My last motorcycle was a Kawasaki 650 4K (4 into 1 exhaust) I bought in late 1998. Had a full-face helmet. Took my wife to work on it once. She wore the helmet I got when I first bought the bike and I wore the full-face. Sold the bike before we moved to Colorado. Like I already stated, it was the only form of transportation I had for a year or so.

    Today, I wouldn't even think about riding or even buying one.
     
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    People who drive cars are not tuned into watching out for someone on a motorcycle. Someone can stop at an intersection, look in both directions, and yet the presence of an oncoming motorcycle might not register. Most of us are programmed to look out for cars and trucks, not motorcycles. I have seen that myself, both as a motorcyclist and as the driver of a car. That is a common cause of car-motorcycle accidents, so motorcyclists need to be extra careful, aware that the driver of a car may not note their presence.

    I have had someone use his blinkers to go around me on a two-lane road, so I know that he knew I was there, but then he turned directly in front of me, striking the front wheel of my motorcycle. He wasn't drunk, and he acknowledged that he was at fault. After going around me, he just forgot that I was there. Repeatedly, I have seen cars stop at intersections, then pull out in front of me.

    As the driver of a car, I haven't ran down any motorcyclists yet but I have seen that it necessary to take extra precautions to be aware of motorcycles on the road. It is easy to stop, looking to the right, seeing nothing, then looking to the left, seeing an oncoming motorcycle, yet not immediately acknowledging it as an obstruction to pulling out into traffic.

    Surely, people need to make a point of being aware of motorcycles on the road because it's all too easy to dismiss them, but motorcyclists need to be aware that other drivers might not see them, and that, even if they see them, they still might not react appropriately.
     
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    I think almost 70 % of organ donors are motorcycle riders. It seems logical to me that this should be pointed out when on is getting a motorcycles endorsement/license and an organ donor card should be included with the license....
     
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    For the year or so I had my last one, I "split traffic". Don't know if that's still legal in Calif., but it was back in 1999. In fact, everyone who owned a motorcycle (freeway legal that is) would split traffic, when traffic was backed up on the freeway or street...…….even law enforcement. One time I was "splitting traffic" and had another motorcycle rider in front of me and a CHP Officer on his patrol bike behind him and two other motorcycle riders behind the Officer. We were all driving down and avoiding any side mirrors that were sticking out from vehicles. In "splitting traffic" a rider has to be extremely careful and we were.
     
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    The last time I rode was about 30 years ago. A kid on a bicycle came out of nowhere and cut me off on a fairly busy 45 MPH street and I had to dump the Harley. Even after I hit the street the kid kept going like nothing ever happened.
    Bottom line though was that I figured if it was that easy to kill a kid or get killed or maimed then I didn’t need the bike.

    Of course, had I been driving a car, the kid might have been toast but then, I would not have been so banged up.
     
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    @Bill Boggs
    Regarding biking accidents: Roy Orbison, of notable music fame, loved riding as did his wife. He witnessed her driving her motorcycle under a semi-trailer. Killed. Some time later, both of their young boys burned to death in a house fire. The man's life was pervaded by misery.
    Frank
     
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    I'm not familiar with the term, but if you mean driving down the center when traffic is stopped, not long after I moved to California, I was in a traffic jam on my bike. The only reason I didn't go down the center was because there was a motorcycle cop on the shoulder and I assumed that was against the law. He came over to me and told me that it was okay to do that. That was in the early 1970s.
     
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    We went to hear Roy several times in Odessa, Texas. My wife's boss had owned a majority of the liquor sold in a big part of west Texas. He had a chain of liquor stores and several other companies under his wing, one of them being the best hotel in Odessa and he periodicly brought Roy Oberon to Odessa, but I did not know about the tragic situations in his life.
     
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    @Cody Fousnaugh those Kawasakis 650's and 1000's were good bikes but one of the 650's went into a high speed wobble with me and I was never so scarred before I could get it slowed down to smooth riding. I was trying it out to buy but that scarred me off. It had never happened to me before and I wasn't sure how to handle it. And those sports bikes can rev it up so quickly. They scare the hounddog ot of me the way the zip in between traffic and change lanes. And going around corners at a good gallup with their tires and can cut a corner at such severe angles. Of course I'm too old for anything now save a three wheeled bicycle but those sports bikes scarred me from the time they came out in our market. I was sure more bodies would be laying out on our streets but the kids seem to handle those bikes A-okay.
     
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    I went thro' this when I lost my brother aged 20 and his girlfriend as his pillion passenger on his 250 motorcycle in an accident. According to the police he had overtaken improperly. He died in hospital, his girlfriend on the spot. He wore a helmet but it didn't help him. Don't know if she did. It was a traumatic experience both for our family and the family of his girlfriend.
    It had always been clear to me and my twin brother that riding a motorbike was out of the question although this led to a loss of prestige among our peers who did. It even took quite some time before we were able to tell our mom that we had a driver's license and, eventually, a car. Thank God both of us did not get involved in a severe car crash while our mother was still alive. I did not mention the four ones I was involved in since there was material damage only.
     
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    Even though it's been many years, I'm sure you still,feel the loss! Only blessing is that your mom wasn't alive....something like that would kill me. :(
     
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    Back in the year that my mom and dad died, my oldest son was almost killed in a motorcycle accident. He worked as a deputy sheriff, and was on his way to work when. Deer jumped out of the brush and crashed into his motorcycle. The only reason that he even survived was because God was taking care of him, and they landed with the deer on the bottom, and the bike on top, so when they skidded down the road, it was the poor deer who was spread into mush all down the road.
    My son was in and out of consciousness, but it was late at night on a back road, and not very many people came by.It was early spring in Idaho, so the weather was below freezing, and he apparently was there for over an hour before someone reported the accident.
    For some reason, the dispatcher thought it was just a road kill and not an accident, and they didn’t send anyone because they assumed that my son would find it on his way to work.
    When he didn’t check in for work, they sent someone out to see what happened, and found the accident scene, and were then able to call and ambulance and get him transported to the hospital with a broken leg, and face lacerations.
    He wouldn’t let anyone tell me, because he know that his grandmother had just died, and he didn’t want his mom to worry about him, but his girlfriend did tell me anyway (after much prodding on my part).
    He was very fortunate to have survived at all, and he still rides a motorcycle, and loves it.
     
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    "Splitting traffic" is riding in-between two rows of stopped cars. IOW, cars on your right and left. I never had a problem doing it. Problem with following "stop and go" traffic is using the clutch, whether it's a motorcycle or a vehicle. Can wear out a clutch pretty darn fast.
     
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    She was when the fatal accident happened and she also was when I got involved in my accidents but I never told her about mine.
     
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