Steve - Shoulder Surgery

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  1. Yvonne Smith

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    Have you tried some DMSO on your shoulder, @Steve North ? I have used that for years for joint pain, and it helps me when my knee or my back is hurting bad. I have the spray; but I have also used DMSO gel, and it works good, too. Maybe it would at least help you with the pain until you can get that shoulder operated on.
     
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    @Steve North @Yvonne Smith
    My shoulder pain is very localized, almost to the point of being able to provoke it's intensity with a fingertip. It comes and goes, sometimes being totally absent for hours or even a whole day. Other times, it hurts intensely no matter the position of my arm, even if I support the arm's weight with the other. I have not yet taken any pain reliever other than alcohol......

    DMSO was being sold years ago on street corners in the Phoenix area while we lived there, supposedly laced with Laetrile obtained from Mexico
    illegally. A crackdown was instituted and the supply "dried up". Laetrile is a brand name for a supposed chemotherapeutic drug the safety of which is of grave concern: it is obtained from Bitter Almonds, and contains Amygdalin, which is a form of Cyanide. Most everyone has heard of the toxicity of Cyanide, a deadly poison. Laetrile was (is?) made from Bitter Oil of Almonds.

    DMSO has the unique ability to enter the bloodstream right through the skin. It is also a very active solvent for many compounds, including Laetrile, which are not readily absorbed through the skin. Such compounds dissolved in DMSO will enter the system when it is rubbed on the skin. I have never heard of DMSO having any particularly useful qualities beyond skin penetration, but there are a LOT of things remaining for me to learn about! DMSO stands for Dimethylsulfoxide, which I will now research.

    I had been under the impression since Phoenix that DMSO was an illegal substance to possess after it was pulled off the streets.
    Frank
     
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  3. Steve North

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    OK....................
    Don't ask what happened !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! -------------......... I still don't believe it !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    My wife was taking a shower and she reached for the bottle of shampoo for her hair.. Now she buys the largest darn bottle of the stuff ever seen.. As she grabs the bottle, it slips out of her soapy hands and it falls right on the top of her right foot, the area just above the toes called the metatarsals.. She must of broken some of those small bones.. Went for an X-Ray at the hospital and the end result is she is now in a cast boot for several weeks...
    They are sending her for a cat scan which we have an appointment on Friday, however it is in Sault Ste. Marie which is a 3 hour drive from our house.. Wonderful........... Just wonderful !!!
    Meanwhile, she is in pain (of course) and has now helped herself to some of my pain killers which seem to work OK..
    After the cat scan, she has another appointment with the orthopedic specialist and we were wondering if my surgery will be postponed till she is capable of looking after me when I come home..
    We will know what is happening after the visit to the specialist after the cat scan..

    LIKE I SAID ------------------ DON'T ASK !!!!!!!
     
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    Oh my! I found a prayer for you that I hope will help you and your family:
    http://www.prayers-for-special-help.com/prayer-for-protection-from-harm.html


    Hope everyone gets cured quickly. I had a bad shoulder pain and when I went to the doctors my doctor said I had bursitis. It hurt so bad. I did some research for holistic ways to cure my bursitis aside of the exercise, imagine exercise when it hurts so bad, for relief and curing my pain. I found at SwansonVitamins.com Full Spectrum Herbal Joint Care and peppermint oil, yes peppermint oil to relieve and cure the pain. Then I got back pain suddenly. I found white willow bark and it works wondrously too. I also drank 325 mg of acetaminophen to help in the beginning. I changed my sleeping habits and put a pillow under my knees for I sleep on my back to help take away the pressure on my back when I sleep. My neighbor had a automatic bed to give away for she was getting a new one, so she gave it to me. My 2 .neighbors even set it up and it took 4 hours to set up too! The bed helped so much in the beginning to get in and out of bed. Raising my knees helps so much during the night to alleviate the back pressure too, now the back pain is 98% gone!!!!
    Good luck in finding the cure for your shoulder pain. Good to ask your doctor about the different herbs too for interaction is dangerous for our health. Hope this helps, and you're welcome in advance if it does help. Christ help and protect both of you too, thank you, amen.
     
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    Thanks Krissttina..
    My problem with my shoulder is the joint (ball and socket) has deteriorated down to be bone on bone..
    There isn't any cure at all other than replacing the ball and socket the same way they do for hips..
    I already had a shot of cortisone in the shoulder on December 1st of last year and It lasted about 2 months..
    Total replacement is the only option at this stage...
     
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    I think that Laetrile comes from apricot pits and not almonds, @Frank Sanoica . When you taken out the pit, then you crack it open, and inside is the actual apricot "seed" which is very similar to an almond when you look at it. It is from this apricot pit that the Laetrile is extracted, and some people simply eat this pit to get the Laetrile.
    Also, many plants, including lettuce, have cyanide in them; so just eating something that has a small amount of cyanide is not a problem.

    As for the DMSO, it is a byproduct from tree sap, and it has a lot of health properties, one of them being to help with pain. DMSO, as you can tell from the name, has a lot of sulfur in it, which is part of the reason that it is so healing. We have actually talked about it several times on this forum, and if you put "DMSO" into the search box at the top of the page, you can re-read some of the conversations we have had about it on here if you want to.
    Athletes have used DMSO for many years, and it was not illegal, but not sold for use on people. I used to get mine from the feed store because it was always sold as a liniment for horses; but now it can be purchased at health food stores, and even on Amazon.
    Here is a website with some quick information for you.

    https://www.sott.net/article/228453-DMSO-The-Real-Miracle-Solution
     
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    This is just awful news - what rotten timing ! :(
    Can only hope your wife makes a 'speedy' recovery
    Sending good wishes to you 'both' :)
     
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    When it rains, it pours!
     
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    @Steve North
    Hope your wife is feeling better soon. :(
    btw you said DON'T ASK. Okay, fair enough. But YOU have to agree not to ask about the incident last year when I stepped on my cat's tail, she freaked out, I fell...............what a scene that was. :eek:
     
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    Kind of reminds me of: "If it weren't for bad luck...I'd have no luck at all!" @Steve North So sorry to hear about you and your wife's health problems and praying y'all both will be fixed and feeling much better real soon.
     
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    We are back safe and sound..
    We both had a Cat Scan and I have to call up the doctor's office on Monday (tomorrow) for an appointment next week for us to go and get the results of the test..
    Her foot is getting a bit better but far from healed..
    My shoulder won't get any better but the Cat Scan will tell how bad it really is.. meanwhile I still have pain and I am taking my Oxycodone pain killers when necessary..
     
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    @Steve North Oxycodone I took only once, one tablet, after a particularly rough tooth extraction. I could not keep my eyes open afterward, and never took a second helping. Pain killers are a new and unknown thing to me.

    Now, lately, both shoulders hurt very badly, so much so that holding my arms forwards gripping my steering wheel has become a chore. And my wife needs me to drive her to Mesa to catch a flight to Indiana, to spend Mother's Day with her Mom, 91. Two round trips to Mesa = 1200 miles. Don't know if I can do it. The shoulder pain is vague at times. Wife believes if I force myself to use the weight machine in my shop, I could improve my shoulder strength. I shall force. But have little hope for success.

    So, painkillers. What advice might I be given? A newcomer to accepting pain by no other means than acceptance alone. Frank
     
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    Frank.. I only wish I could give you some medical advice, but unfortunately. I am not a doctor and I won't even try..
    I know that an X-Ray will tell you almost everything why there is a problem and what the solution is..

    In my case, it is the ball and socket that is rubbing bone on bone and there isn't anything to do for it other than replace the joint.. They do the same thing for hips and knees when there is no other option.. I already had a cortisone shot in the shoulder which lasted about 6 or so weeks and that was back on Dec. 1st of last year..

    The pain killers I take were prescribed to me by my doctor and not just my choice.. Yes, they work wonderfully, but they are NOT available without a prescription.. Your doctor is the only one that can prescribe the proper pain killer for you as each person is different and has different issues when it comes to narcotics.. Perhaps all you need is an anti inflammatory such as Arthritic or Meloxicam or whatever is prescribed.. They work wonders when it comes to inflamed joints.. Also maybe some Ibuprofen could help........... Again, only your doctor will know what is for you..

    There again, here in Canada, all medical procedures are covered fully by our Health Care System.. X-Rays, Cat Scans, doctors visits, operations, hospital stays, follow-ups, and equipment needed after the operation such as a sling or whatever.. I have had a few other replacements and so far the total cost is just under $0.00 for all.. The government even pays me to go out of town to see a doctor, a specialist, take tests, operations, and hospital stays.. They even pay $100.00 for us to sleep over as we live far away.. This is for each and every time we go out of town for medical reasons..
    Prescriptions, regardless of what they are, are only $2.00 each for a 90 day supply.. I know that doesn't help your cause, but that is our situation up here..

    I know what your pain is all about as I am going through the similar pain right now.. Sleeping through the night is a luxury which I don't have right now..

    Perhaps my answer to you isn't what you wanted to hear, but I can't play doctor when it comes to such an important item.. I suggest strongly you get proper medical advice and have the shoulder properly attended to once and for all...

    Good luck and just keep in there...
     
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    It looks like there is an international airport right there close at Laughlin, so why would you have to go all the way to Mesa, 300 miles away, for her to catch a flight ?
    If you want to try some natural products that might help, I would suggest MSM or DMSO, or a combination of both. MSM has sulfur in it as well, and it it is arthritis in your shoulders, then it could help. I get it as a white powder, and just add it to juice or something similar and it only takes a. 1/4 teaspoon of the powder. You can also get it as capsules, I believe.
    Because of my heart condition, I can't take regular NSAIDs; so I have to depend on natural products to deal with pain, and this is what I use.
    Like Steve said, the best thing is to see your doctor and let him prescribe something for you, and see just what is causing the pain.

    @Steve North , I am glad that you made it in for the tests and back, and that your wife's foot is improving. Hopefully, by the time you have your surgery, she will be doing well enough to help take care of you.
     
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    Sometimes airports are called international but are small and don't go everywhere, she might be able to connect but sometimes that's not even possible.

    Fresno's airport is called Yosemite international airport and it's a small airport, hardly any direct flights except Vegas, AZ and maybe Utah And all major cities in The state. ...don't remember it's been so long since I've flown out of it.

    I always fly from San Jose which is quite big but even there I can't get a direct flight to St. Louis. Some people stress if they have to connect, I hate it because I've missed too many connections.

    @Frank Sanoica , I've never taken oxycodene but have taken hydocodene and it doesn't put me to sleep. I think there is also tramadol for pain but I've never taken that either.

    Also @Frank Sanoica , always take with water not homemade wine. :)

    Hope you know I'm just teasing you. :)
     
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