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  1. Ken Anderson

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    So Google has an AI that has feelings. What do you think of that? Is it going to cry when it learns that I use Bing?

     
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    It's odd that we have a sentient AI program but we don't have a sentient president.
     
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    So this guy is on administrative leave because he violated his Non-Disclosure Agreement when he sought outside advice, and his next move is to go on Tucker Carlson and violate his Non-Disclosure Agreement on global television??? Hmmmm.....

    I don't think the question is "Is AI possible?" I think the question is "Can enough people be convinced that AI is real in order for these robots [actually, their programmers/owners] to become the ultimate infallible experts we must all acquiesce to?" Frighteningly, I know the answer to that second part. And I believe it to be the end game. And who better to bring it to the masses than a trusted household name like Google?
     
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    Good point.
     
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    Musk has said we're crazy to keep pursuing AI research. I strongly agree. I don't think that the programmers/owners will be the ones in control, in the not so distant future, though. Once true, independent thought becomes possible for androids, then things will happen very fast.
     
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    I recall a time there there was at least a pretense made by saying "we" should have ethical discussions before moving forward on such things. Of course, such discussions never occurred, but at least it was pointed out that they should happen.
     
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    One question I have is by what method is the algorithm produced to create “feelings”?

    Feelings and emotions are individual; what I might find sad or hurtful might not be as sad to another.
    For instance, I have no real emotional response to death whilst others have a heavy response.
    As a note, scientists do not even know where emotions come from or how they are produced. They know the reaction to an emotion as a feeling but the actual emotion remains a mystery so how can they be reproduced when the experts do not even know what they are?

    If perchance the robot “learns” from whomever it is assigned to then it is replication and not creation.
    If the feelings are preprogrammed then it’s either the programmer’s idea of what feeling should be or a general consensus of what they should be like but they’re still replications.

    Of course, these are my opinions so what do I know?
     
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    I wasn't impressed by that goob. (Who actually took time to "shout out" his friend who worships Carlson during the interview. What the????)
     
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    Did the guy even say what his title/role was?
     
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    If this was created by a Leftist corporation, ask it what its sex is, then get out the marshmallows...there's gonna be a meltdown.
     
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    First we get Orwell (and Huxley) from this administration, now we get Asimov from Google. What next? Will the First Law of Robotics be programmed in?
     
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    If you’re a deplorable, no.
     
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    Gee, and I was gonna name him Fow Chee Too.
     
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    "Google Engineer." :rolleyes:
     
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    I recall reading an issue of Popular Science back in the 60s/70s where the word "google" was coined to mean "the number 1 with a million zeroes behind it." I remember that the guy who coined the word claims his kid came up with it. I can find no evidence of it now, just that 1 with a hundred zeroes is a googolplex.

    "Google engineer" sounds like a guy who leads a group of pre-verbal kids.
     
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