Sad End To The Mollie Tibbetts Case

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  1. Chrissy Cross

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    I think the proper term is "undocumented murderer."
     
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    I snagged this pic from his FB page before it's removed....


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    I'm not saying they were his guns....
     
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    The picture with the guns is dated 2004, and he would have been 10 years old ; so not likely his guns or even a picture that he took. If 2017 is the last update to his profile, that seems a little odd, too.
     
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    2017 isn't the last update....I just scrolled down a bit.

    Most of the comments were in Spanish but recent ones were from angry people ...
     
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    This has some profanity in it...

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    If that's not his FB page...I'm sorry.

    If it's him...hope he rots in hell.

    This is a story I followed very closely and was hoping for a happier outcome.
     
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    There's nothing to be sorry about. I would have taken it to be his, and it might be. People sometimes create fake Facebook pages for people who commit horrible crimes but this page was created well before he was connected to the crime.
     
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    I don't know if that's the case with this one, but often the US papers won't mention race, nationality, or immigration status when the shooter is black, Muslim, or here illegally, although they don't hesitate to speculate that they are white supremacists before an arrest is made. The kids who were found in New Mexico starving (and one dead), ABC News (and probably others) attributed that to a white supremacist group for a couple of days before the US news told us that they were radical Muslims training children to be school shooters. Pretty much everyone knows that now, as well as the murder in Iowa, but they wait until everyone has already gotten the news elsewhere before they report it here. Often the UK press gives us the truth before the US press does when it's matters of protected classes. I often get the news here, but go to the UK press for the facts behind the news.
     
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    @Ken Anderson that was my point I guess. It won't be given much press here because the killer was an illegal Mexican alien living in Iowa who came into the U.S. during the O Administration. Trump is pointing it out in his speeches and tweets though.
     
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    It was in all my news sources @Don Alaska ...I just like the DM. Seems their stories give more info and it's comments section is always busy.

    Maybe the only difference I saw was between using the word "illegal alien". To "undocumented".
     
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    Of course this morning I'm reading that he worked on a prominent Republican's farm....that's in all my news sources.


    From Fox News....


    Cristhian Rivera, 24, was employed by Yarrabee Farms for the past several years, according to a source with knowledge of the situation.

    The Des Moines Register reported that it reviewed documents that listed several owners of the farm, which included Dane Lang and Eric Lang, both relatives of Craig Lang. Craig Lang, who owns a dozen property deeds in Brooklyn, Iowa, is reportedly a former 2018 Republican candidate for secretary of agriculture in the state.
     
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    I looked at his FB page again and it's still there but the number of friends has dropped but not by much.

    I'm guessing most of them didn't even know the story since most live in Mexico.

    I saw it reported that Mollie was FB friends with his "baby's mama".

    I'm thinking maybe because Mollie had a summer job in daycare....but that's just my assumption.

    He probably wasn't a complete stranger to her though...again guessing.

    It also sounds to me that she was murdered that night and not kidnapped and held like everyone thought.
     
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    They had to report that his employer was a relative of a prominent Republican. I know many Republicans who have Democrat relatives and vice-versa.
     
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    True but wether democrat or republican, he shouldn't have passed the background check.

    It does seem like that farm has a few undocumented workers...willing to bet a few aren't showing up for work today.

    Also the source for that info I posted was Fox News.
     
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    Here is my theory as to what and why...

    Even though he was an illegal and was in the US for about 4-7 yrs, he was an employee in good standing according to the farm owner.

    Had no police record or priors.

    Probablyj knew of Mollie since this was a small rural area and she was FB friends with the mother of his baby.

    Mollie went jogging that night, he was in the area in his car and started following her (don't know why)...he got out at one point and started running with her.

    He probably was being obnoxious and wouldn't leave her alone...she went for her iPhone and said she was calling the police....I'm sure that panicked him....considering he was an illegal.

    They could have struggled with the phone, he got violent, killed her and that's when he says he blacked out and the next thing he remembers is being by that cornfield where he dumped her.

    This is just my opinion.

    I really followed this case from its onset. The dad used to live in Fresno at one point.

    Also following that sick father and husband who killed his pregnant wife and 2 little girls near Denver Colorado.
     
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    Fox isn't immune to media bias and political correctness. Lots of farms have illegal workers.
     
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    I'm not saying they're not but have read that the farm was owned by a Republican family...

    My point is the murder of a young woman not wether the farm owner was Republican or democrat....I really don't care...

    The ball was dropped...

    It's dropped a lot but this was a story I followed and was passionate about....that's all.

    I'd expect to read this story in CA or even TX but not in rural Iowa where they don't lock their doors at night.
     
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    Actually if you think about it, this story is good for both sides of the political aisle...if the farm owner is indeed Republican.

    For the democrats....republican had illegals working for him

    For the Republicans, she was killed by an illegal.

    And that's all I'm going to say on this...the whole story upsets me. :(
     
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    Although I feel more for the family of Mollie, I also feel for his parents....they look like decent people.

    What I don't understand is...are they legal? If they are, wonder why the son isn't?

    If they're not legal....aren't they afraid to be sitting in court?

    Anybody know??

    @Don Alaska or @Ken Anderson .....
     
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    I found this comment disgusting.

    She did issue an apology next day.

     
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    The rabid opposition to Trump leads many people to say and do really stupid stuff. I'm sure no one saw or heard any apology. It would have been buried.
     
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    The reason nothing ever gets done about immigration is that there are plenty of Republican donors who want the cheap wages that illegal immigration brings, particularly in the agricultural industries. Most of our problems are not clear Republican-Democrat issues.
     
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