Roots Remake

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  1. K E Gordon

    K E Gordon Very Well-Known Member
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    So, anyway, someone online had told me about a Roots Remake on the History channel, so I was watching it last night..It is a 4 part mini series with some famous actors are in it. It was very good, but anyway, I got to thinking, most of the time the slave Kunte Kinte was held as a slave was on the Waller Plantation in Spotsylvania County Virginia...less than 10 miles from here. I pass Wallers road all the time. I will never look at it again the same way. I was just thinking there needs to be a historical marker there. I think I am going to call that county, and see what they say. I think there is a memorial for the plantation owner...but I want one to Kunte Kinte and the slaves, who suffered and died there.
     
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    Oh I was a young bride just 21 or 22.... all alone with a tiny baby ..and living in Naval quarters in Southern England, and my husband thousands of miles away with his ship in refit in Jacksonville Florida for 7 months, in the mid 70's and I only had 2 TV channel on the old family donated TV..and fortunately one of those channels was showing the whole first series of Roots...I loved it...it was just fascinating to me, and so educational .

    The new Mini series stars one of our Local London relatively unknown actors Malachi Kirby ..as Kunta Kinte... and I'm looking forward to watching him...

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbi...-series-set-big-British-export-Hollywood.html


    You're absolutely right @K E Gordon there definitely needs to be some kind of historical marker at that plantation, I'm astonished that there's not...I would have presumed it would have been a huge area of interest. Good luck with getting it recognised as such!!
     
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    @K E Gordon - wish you well with that request, hope it goes the right way :)
     
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    Well actually, I was just reading about Alex Haley, Roots creator. The land VA and NC land records apparently don't bear out the story until the Civil War. However, that doesn't mean it didn't happen. I am not sure how closely the slave records were kept. I am still going to contact the County historical people to see what they have to say about it.
     
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    @K E Gordon
    Good idea - sometimes these people don't like to admit the truth of it
     
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    I understand that the director wanted to
    remake the mini series with a slightly different point of view from the first one. However, I will probably not warch it again.
     
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    I just noticed your post on this K E Gordon, have you had an news in your endeavor?

    I can only imagine there are the bodies of poor souls buried all over the south. Buried and forgotten. I imagine here in the West, the U. S., all over the world there are people buried with homes and buildings later built there. But these people never had the chance to live their lives as free people.

    I perhaps think weird things sometimes but I've even thought about places where a lot of people were killed or a great tragedy, are there still the spirits of some of those people still there? I'd hope not. I would hope people moved on.

    I'm not a huge fan of the movie Titanic. But I like how it ends. I see it as all those who died or survived the sinking and then later died, they are all there to greet those who passed over. Sorry went OT majorly.
     
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    I never called because if they can't verify some of the actual story it is probably going to be hard to get any kind of commemoration going, but Thanks for reminding me. I will make a note to do it, because I think it would be important to do. I mean there are plaques to white people all over the place..how about a plaque to honor those some of whom suffered and died here under horrible and abusive circumstances
     
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    There is a plaque that shows where the slave market was in Alexandria, but it doesn't have anyone in particular mentioned, not that we would know them anyway. I am glad about the Kunte Statue in Annapolis, that's something!
     
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    Thank you for the link Ken. Interesting to look at and read.

    K E Gordon, you may be right, If someone was going to put a commemoration up, it would have been done by now.
     
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    History seems to be one giant blog, that is being re-edited every day!
     
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    Kunte Kinte was given the name "Toby" by a slavemaster.

    Hal
     
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    I would like to see a remake of "Roots", and call it 'Weeds".

    Hal
     
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    What are you saying with this statement, @Hal Pollner ? I can make no sensible interpretation of it, and it doesn’t seem like a caring statement in any way that I can determine.
     
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    The book was a mixture of fact and fiction but, according to the story, his name was Kunta Kinte.

    -- Wikipedia

    Like Yvonne, I am perplexed by this one.
     
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    It was stated to be undeterminable.

    H.P.
     
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    If the statement’s meaning is indeterminable then it cannot be read without confusion and confusion is the very root of nearly all misunderstanding. There must have been some type of motivation but if everything lacks definition then even the motivation is lost.
    I do like to take a small bit of time to think things thoroughly through and maybe, even though there is no viable explanation of it via yourself as the writer, (referencing “weeds”) maybe I can shed some light on it.

    There are times when we read a book, see a movie or even have a conversation that there are so many twists and turns to the subject at hand that it may seem as though we’re lost or in a colloquial term, in the weeds.
    Perhaps such is your plight for even though I have yet to meet someone who didn’t understand the mini-series called Roots, that doesn’t mean that there aren’t any.
    If the term weeds is a way of saying that you didn’t comprehend the book or movie in its entirety or parts of it, perhaps it might have been more prudent to simply state which part or parts lacked clarity for you and I am positive that you would have received a lot of help.

    Or, could it be that you were trying to provide a joke but found in the end that it was written in poor taste?
    Alas, there are times when we do not joke around about something that is dear to so many people.

    Well, those are my two interpretations of the statement in question, now do tell me, which one is right?
     
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    Neither is right, but I do appreciate your attempt at psychoanalysis, Bobby!

    I have no "plight", as you infer...I fully understood the premise and plot of Haley's series, and I enjoyed it!

    I simply enjoy making a "play on words" at any opportunity, as you should know by now!

    Perhaps a remake of the next series could be called "seeds", as would have indeed been appropriate for the original title!

    (Were you in the Army Special Forces?)

    Take care...
    Hal




     
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    Ah, a seed does indeed pre-date a root. Perhaps Mr. Haley didn’t wish to back quite that far but nonetheless, I understand the premise.

    No, although after many tests, the Army asked me to enter into OCS, Ranger school and a linguistics school.
    I did however go to 3 other schools and was airborne to boot.
     
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    I'm impressed with your military training, Mr. Cole, and I'm not surprised that you qualified for OCS!

    I also qualified for OCS, but turned it down because I wanted no extra time added to my 2-year enlistment as a Draftee, for which I volunteered.

    Your broad vocabulary and your writing style and phraseology was a tipoff to your being considered for Linguistic School, and I'm sure you would have made a fine Officer!

    Your Airborne service is also impressive!

    SP/4 Harold Pollner, US 56332718
     
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